I read this article with interest. What do you think?
[url]Physiotherapists banned from touching patients - Telegraph[/url]
I know that the article points out that this is one area of the country but it must be happening elsewhere too and although the CSP have spoken against this, it is highly probable that this practice could spread. I have not had good experiences with NHS physio. A few weeks ago I had some major surgery on my wrist. I had a visit before discharge from a physio who handed me a piece of paper with some exercises to do. They demonstrated the exercises but it was clear that they were not entirely sure what was required. For a couple of the exercises they had to read the instructions a couple of times before showing me what to do!
If the future of physio is prescribing exercise and providing information for self help then what is to stop people using their gym membership to see a personal trainer trained in corrective exercise and sports massage? They may actually be able to offer more to the individual than a NHS physio could.
Thoughts?
AspireST
I read this article with interest. What do you think?
[url]Physiotherapists banned from touching patients - Telegraph[/url]
I know that the article points out that this is one area of the country but it must be happening elsewhere too and although the CSP have spoken against this, it is highly probable that this practice could spread. I have not had good experiences with NHS physio. A few weeks ago I had some major surgery on my wrist. I had a visit before discharge from a physio who handed me a piece of paper with some exercises to do. They demonstrated the exercises but it was clear that they were not entirely sure what was required. For a couple of the exercises they had to read the instructions a couple of times before showing me what to do!
If the future of physio is prescribing exercise and providing information for self help then what is to stop people using their gym membership to see a personal trainer trained in corrective exercise and sports massage? They may actually be able to offer more to the individual than a NHS physio could.
Thoughts?
AspireST
Hi Dan,
what we need to do is jump on this, as we (hands on therapists for want of a better title) keep getting handed things like on a plate but we keep missing the boat! NICE recognised that physios werent best placed to work with people with back problems years ago!
NHS physios are going down the exercise therapy route and have been doing for years, as it is more 'evidence based' than anything else, including electrotherapy, and have been handing out generic exercises for many many years. This is nothing new, gone are the days of well trained hands on physios! 🙁
No offence to personal trainers, but I certainly would not see one for corrective exercise unless they had done an advanced course.
This is exactly what a sports therapist does though, manual therapy and corrective exercise, with the odd bit of electrotherapy thrown in, if needed.
I think as things evolve, so some things die out, and quite why the government keep spending millions of pounds funding physiotherapy courses when there is no work for them, is beyond me. Maybe its time to start employing more sports therapists in the NHS, but then the problem is, patients still wouldnt get the required amount of time in an appointment to make it wholly beneficial. IMO anyway.
No offence to personal trainers, but I certainly would not see one for corrective exercise unless they had done an advanced course.
Hi Richard,
Sorry I should have been clearer. I was referring Premier who are now doing Active IQ level 4 sports massage and is open to graduates of their PT diploma.
Hope you well
Dan
Hi Richard,
Sorry I should have been clearer. I was referring Premier who are now doing Active IQ level 4 sports massage and is open to graduates of their PT diploma.
Hope you well
Dan
I think the AIQ sports massage is a very good syllabus, so combined with PT, they would no doubt be able to tackle many problems. The one area I'm not sure on, and this is through feedback from many PTs that I train in Sports Therapy is that they aren't generally taught how to rehab in the early stages (post injury), but that may just depend on where they have been trained.
I think the AIQ sports massage is a very good syllabus, so combined with PT, .....
😀
(but CYQ's is better now 😎
When compared with the sports therapy qual the main things lacking from the active qual (esp the manner by which P**m*r choose to deliver it (IMHO of course)
is a
1. set number of hours to ensure sufficient time is allowed to meet case study requirements and self evaluation
2. use of pophlylactics for support and prevention
3. minimal time on early stage injury treatment (v basics of cryo is all that is "covered".... and that ony sometimes :0)
4. use of electrical modalities
5. note First Aid is (was?) NOT a requirement
and as ST says
" (increasingly) it may just depend on where they have been trained." 😎
ps
You can do the Active level 4 at P**m*r WITHOUT being a PT (ie they will accept a "suitable" level 3 sports massage qual instead)
This is the "risk" which (hopefully) the "authorities" will check (.........Gary :D)
I think the AIQ sports massage is a very good syllabus, so combined with PT, .....quote]
😀
(but CYQ's is better now 😎When compared with the sports therapy qual the main things lacking from the active qual (esp the manner by which P**m*r choose to deliver it (IMHO of course)
is a1. set number of hours to ensure sufficient time is allowed to meet case study requirements and self evaluation
2. use of pophlylactics for support and prevention
3. minimal time on early stage injury treatment (v basics of cryo is all that is "covered".... and that ony sometimes :0)
4. use of electrical modalities
5. note First Aid is (was?) NOT a requirementand as ST says
" (increasingly) it may just depend on where they have been trained." 😎ps
You can do the Active level 4 at P**m*r WITHOUT being a PT (ie they will accept a "suitable" level 3 sports massage qual instead)
This is the "risk" which (hopefully) the "authorities" will check (.........Gary :D)On the case, got a meeting arranged for May to discuss these issues;)
might need to talk to you about being my sidekick for the day ???
to paraphrase KK
"I'd love it if that happened, I'd really love it!" 😀
Finding a qualified personal trainer
Well, I am training as a [url]personal trainer[/url] at the moment for the Level 3 qualification. I would not dream of advertising myself as a specialist in terms of the more niche areas of exercise. To become trained in, say, obese exercise treatment, you really should do a higher level advanced course. Ditto for women in pregnancy or special populations.
Otherwise you risk advising people with physiologies and conditions beyond your level of knowledge. Check the qualifications! 😎
I wonder if this ban is applicable to *all* aspects of physiotherapy. There are a lot of physiotherapy that can be carried out through alternate means. Clinics for physiotherapy in Toronto, Canada, seem to have accepted it, and I've heard a lot of athletes react enthusiastically. I guess I just have a hard time assuming that this is real.