Non Gifted Healers

RE: Non Gifted Healers

Sounds to me that this guy has a huge ego, needing constant feeding.

We are all gifted, and noone is either more or less gifted than the other. After all the healing comes from devine, not the person healing.

We all have the ability if it is ones chosen path.

IMHO we are all born with a gift of healing, from a mothers first touch to a new born child, to a healer who without cost offers that gift to anyone in need.

What a beautiful statement healistic. And very true.

Hails xxx

RE: Non Gifted Healers

The word attunement is so closely related to the system and ceremony of reiki that it causes confusion for some people when used in any other context.

I think the word alignment is more revealing. Alignment: The process of adjusting parts so that they are in proper relative position or the condition of having parts so adjusted.

My thoughts:
We are all born the ability to heal, but circumstances quickly begin to interfere with that ability. We encounter conflict, even in infancy or in utero, and it causes us to shift somewhat from our original condition at conception. Any kind of conflict throughout life causes that same kind of shift, whether it be miniscule or monumental, and unless or until we learn to deal with the difficulty we are out of alignment with our healing ability—and any number of other things.

The alignment necessary to get us back into the “proper relative condition” is not something that we are able to do on our own, nor certainly something that someone else can do to us (it is not chiropractic). It is a conscious and voluntary action that changes our thoughts, expectations, behavior and condition. It is adjusting ourselves to the flow of life that is constantly reaching toward us. It is a two-way street.

Those who are partially aligned can accomplish some things; those who are fully aligned can accomplish much. Even so, the thought that you are superior to another affects that alignment adversely. Our perceptions and comparisons affect our abilities.

Giving ourselves to the oneness that is the universe connects us, aligns us if you will, to the abilities to heal—whether that healing comes from a touch, a smile, a hug, a thought, an action, or a sharing of the soul.

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Giving ourselves to the oneness that is the universe connects us, aligns us if you will, to the abilities to heal—whether that healing comes from a touch, a smile, a hug, a thought, an action, or a sharing of the soul.

What a beautiful statement Holos.

Hails xxx

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Hi All
Not much to add to what Nancy has said except to agree that she is spot on. The alignment (or misalignment) is an ever changing process. Gifted or non gifted healers is a bit of a yucky statement to make.

Then again it all depends what you mean by healing. The quick touch the for a moment or two, a hug or the smile has tremendous potential simply because it is informal unrehearsed and uncontrolled. To act without conscious thought can open the doors to extraordinary progress for the individuals concerned.
Steve

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I suppose that it depends on what you mean by "gifted" here - is this an ability to heal that we are all born with but some people don't/ can't/ won't use; is it something that a few are gifted/ born with; or is is something that can be conferred to from one to another?

If it's something that we are all born with - can some people be better (truly gifted) than others? And who is doing the judging anyway?

From my experiences with spiritual healing and Reiki healing (separately) I'd say that everyone can heal, although some chose to work at it and call themselves healers.

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This is just a general response after reading all the posts so far.
I would just like to share my perspective as a result of my experience…..

Why, if healing is possible,
why, if we are gifted,
why if we are born with it,
then why was I only aware of it after I asked to make contact with my Spirit Guides?

Why wasn’t it possible before, all those years in the before, why didn’t the healing just naturally happen, then?
Why didn’t it just naturally start flowing at some point?

It is just that.....for me, the ability to allow healing simply evolved and is constantly evolving as a result ofmy relationship with my Spirit guides.

So we may be gifted, we may be born with it, it is just that I had no idea at all about healing energy, till I said my hello.

For me, it is that “with” that matters, not what I do.

You see, it is like this….
It is that with that matters so much….
It mattered then when I first asked and it matters now.
I still want to know about the with, I still want to feel the with, I want to know, to feel, to be… simply with....

Healing is as a result of that relationship.
For me, it is the relationship that matters, the togetherness, the withness, the oneness,
all else…..the healing…. just simply follows.

Just sharing, how it seems to me,
with Love....

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With. . .

What a lovely thought! What a fabulous thing to take into the day!

The word with does not allow for any separation, does it? No matter what, with includes others. I like that concept. . .

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“Many are picked but few are chosen,” he says.

That's meaningless. What a silly, puffed-upman. He'd be a much clearer channel of healing if he developed a little humility.

I like what Holos says. And I think that if Spirit allows us a learning curve, with mistakes and imperfections, then it's not on really for one person to criticise another's sincere efforts to allow healing. We all have some ego around our healing work, but if we acknowledge our wounded-ness as healers and keep an eye on it, that's okay.

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Hi All
Many are picked but few are chosen,” he says.
There is many deverse measures to the ways to take the importances of this spiritual concept there may be those that are able to bring about the healing aspects to the feeling to create a Healing essence but some are in the mists of adversity that may need to bring about the ways that they come to comprehend the earths lessons this instruction brings about the natural focus of bringing about the challenges of the path that you are on this comes with experiance as the ways of this gift brings new Avenues....Gypsy

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Hi there-
This thread caught my attention. I think for someone to say there are too many non-gifted healers is pompous and egotistical.[:'(] Healing in the traditional sense, to my mind, is tosurrender to Source- letting go of your 'ego' long enough to channel Divine Energy. It's not easy, obviously,but no one has the right to say whether or not you're capable. We're all capable, it's just a matter of 'remembering' how! And anyhow, we all heal each other every day in small ways (as some othe people pointed out) through a hug, a smile, a compliment.....
(((hugs)))
Leigh

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So what do you think about someone who says that we are not gifted healers?

I think everyone is a so called "gifted healer", but people don't know they are gifted healers. The one who wrote this little answer on the question: Is he a ‘miracle’ healer?
is an egoistic guy (I don't know all english words for what I want to say here)
I also met a few people who have putten backs straight and relieved people of cancer, maybe I could do it too. But luckily there is no one with cancer that I know.

Greetings and Positive Energy

Cyrhax

PS: sorry for my very very bad english

My personal take is that I've done the full circle kinda (only as a novice can you understand) & I don’t know about attunements and alignments, desiring spiritual connections, calling on my angels or spirit guides and all the other stuff that we say you may or may not need to do…

I am genuinely now convinced that it can happen truely naturally without even any effort or purposeful personal endeavour to seek out a connection and/or travel down a spiritual path.

My first experience of healing was at the backend of a fairly heavy party, following much that many here would certainly not call ‘spiritual’… Moreover I was totally unaware that profound healing was occurring for the other person and was only told afterwards what had happened while (after a few of us had cleared up) we’d shared deep conversation, a cuppa tea and I’d been resting my hand on her wrist all the time.
Yet I was not (and am still not) a ‘good man’… I think it’s there for all of us channel for others without any real effort.

Yes subsequently I’ve done my spiritual healers course, and all my reiki stuff, diploma in Reflex, quals in massage, sat in circle, done medium work, physical, trance etc. etc. that a lot of us think we ought to do…but I don’t think it’s made the healing any stronger frankly… it was like it is now right from the start:o

But the best healing I ever had was from a baby… I held the baby, it knew I needed something and maybe because the baby’s love is unconditional – I got some wonderful healing flowing to me.:)

I suppose my point is that we’re all different and my belief is that it’s there anyway… but if we need a ritual or need to operate as more pious people to believe we can heal, or(even like our man) think we should say “my power is greater than his” <<>> well then …so be it! :rolleyes:

Hi Roger, i really agree with you, I don't think spiritual 'beliefs' make a difference to 'healing', or if a person is 'good' or 'bad', it's all in the purity of intent at that moment imho! Thats lovely to read about the healing coming from a baby, I supose babies are much more closer to a 'Divine' then we are as adults and perhaps more intune with the natural abilities that humans have because they simply haven't forgotten who/what they are yet

xxxx

Yeah, I do healing without any yukky spiritual beliefs - even cancer patients, though how you would know if it was your healing that cured them, or just that they were a bit more relaxed about the chemo, and therefore that worked better, I don't know.

I believe it's a profound connection, human to human stuff, (such as Rog and the baby, and that's a lovely story.). It's about helping someone make connection with themselves. There is so much trauma and stress, which causes us to dissociate from our own bodies - if, through your intervention, you can make someone feel complete again, whether that's through conversation, or touch, or just being there, you are a gifted healer.

Reiki opened it up for me though. I had no idea how to really touch someone before.

Sharon.

Just a healer

This subject is quite close to my heart, no pun intended :-), so I thought I would offer my perspective...

Perhaps a gifted healer is simply a person who's true spiritual path is to do healing, and maybe we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with who is gifted and who is not but what are we, as individuals, really here to do. I think deep down we are all singing from the same song sheet but expressing it in different ways. LET'S KEEP WORKING!

Love, light & laughter

Ray x

P.S. I cannot imagine a life without healing or debate 🙂

xxx

The flip side of the coin is that we don’t DO healing at all; rather who we are and how we engage with people encourages the others to allow healing for themselves.