Non Gifted Healers

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Like I repled in the last topic,I'm useless as a healer! Couldn't even heal myself!

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[:'(]Personally I dislike the term 'gifted' anyway...it kinda gives the impression that one person is more special then the next because they have been chosen for some gift whereothers have not because no one else is good enough:eek:. To me we're all gifted, and when it comes to healing it takes all forms, not just laying on hands ect...the listener, the adviser, the artist, the musician, ect..everyone hastheir strength, the choice is their's whether or not they wish to tap into itimho

Silverhoodedowl:), if you could loose the self doubt and allow your heart to feel you'll find you can heal ([&:]that rymed sp)

Love
Amy
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Thanks for re-posting this here, Healistic.:)

I've only had time for a quick look at his website, which appears to be undated, though the word 'Today' appears (confusingly) yet it refers to a programme televised in January:

BBC South Today Reporter, Freddie Rostand, featured Andrew in his slot on the Programme, Tuesday 9 January 2007. Click on the link below to view feature.

[link= http://www.andymckellar.co.uk/andy_mckellar_015.htm ][/link]

There's a video there, which again I have not viewed in full.

It sounds to me as if he missed out on the recent series'Trust me I'm a healer',made by the BBC 😉

So what do you think about someone who says that we are not gifted healers?

Possibly not repeatable here, though words such as 'ego' come to mind ... perhaps I should reserve judgement until I've seen more.

Holistic

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Do we need special training for healing or it just a case of concentrating and let the healing flow?

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Well reiki is healing and you get attuned to reiki.

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ORIGINAL: silverhoodedowl

Do we need special training for healing or it just a case of concentrating and let the healing flow?

Hiya, I think it comes down to intent & purity of heart....a person can have all the training in the world & spend a fortune on classes or workshops or attunments but if their hearts not in it or the intent is to make money or be labled 'gifted' then the healing won't be so good (again IMHO)

More of MHO;)I think that some people have a more natural strenght towards healing and find they just 'heal' , others have an interest in healing and are drawn to classes, courses or attunments...I don't think either would be better then the other, in my view it comes down to an individuals attitude, commitment, love & purity towards it, as humans I think we're all healers on some level...somthing no doubt many may disagree with

But the above really is just my opinion...I'm sure others will tell you different:D

Love
Amy
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ORIGINAL: silverhoodedowl

Do we need special training for healing or it just a case of concentrating and let the healing flow?

For Spiritual Healing, have a look at the four "sticky" threads pinned to the top of this forum.

For Reiki, well you'll need to take some time out to study the forum Reiki & Other Energy Healing:

[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tt.asp?forumid=14 ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tt.asp?forumid=14[/link]

because there's a lot of info there, although crystaltherapy is quite right when she says:

Well reiki is healing and you get attuned to reiki.

Many are already healers before being attuned to Reiki, which could lead off at tangents about whose energy is being used in healing, and where it comes from.

On Andrew McKellar's website, I think it was his FAQ page, he says his healing comes from 'divine doctors'.

Hope this helps.

Holistic

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I think we posted at about the same time, Amy, plus I got distracted for a few minutes, but hopefully our two posts are complementary to each other? 🙂

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Thank you both for your advice, I am certainly going to look into more. Now I need someone to practise on! Any advice gratefully received,going to have a look at the sticky threads in the forum. Bless you all.

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I think I am going to visit the library and see what I can find in books there. Thank you for giving me the incentive to look into this.

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I truly believe that everybody has the ability to heal

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I truly believe that everybody has the ability to heal

Hi LioninLondon.

Yes you are so right.

Well reiki is healing and you get attuned to reiki.

IMO You need to be attuned for any channelled healing module and yes you can be attuned without anyone else.
All you need to remember for example that Usui was a mortal man who meditated and received from the divine source/universal energy. As he did, so can you.

PM me if you wish to try this.

I think that some people have a more natural strenght towards healing and find they just 'heal' , others have an interest in healing and are drawn to classes, courses or attunments...I don't think either would be better then the other, in my view it comes down to an individuals attitude, commitment, love & purity towards it, as humans I think we're all healers on some level...somthing no doubt many may disagree with

I would not disagree with you, in fact you have captured in a few simple but true words where many would take pages and still not answer.

My problem with Andrew is that IMHO he is in breach of his codes of Conduct and ethics(If he has any). He certainly would be in breach of mine on at least 4 points.

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My problem with is that IMHO he is in breach of his codes of Conduct (If he has any) and as such he should not be allowed to practice.

Do you mean because he is calling other healers 'non gifted'?

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Do you mean because he is calling other healers 'non gifted'?

Hi
No Not directly. Examples below.

At all times the Healer should never Guarantee, Promise, Claim or Imply a cure.

All advertising and publicity must be set out in a highly professional manner when any reference and shall not contain testimonials.

The Healer must not show discrimination on grounds of gender, race, religion, beliefs, age, disability or political views

The Healer must on no account abuse or exploit a fellow Healer/Practitioner in any way whatsoever.

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IMO You need to be attuned for any channelled healing module

You definitely don't need attuning.

The thousands of spiritual healers out there don't receive attunements. Attunements happen in reiki but not in spiritual healing.

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You definitely don't need attuning.
The thousands of spiritual healers out there don't receive attunements. Attunements happen in reiki but not in spiritual healing.

Sorry IMO you are wrong.

I have been teaching spiritual healing since 1970 and you certainly do need attunement. It may take a slightly different method but the result is the same:

"To enable you as a Healer to be a channel for Spirit Healers/Guides to work through, you will need to be in attunement. Perhaps if we changed the viewpoint a little and say that, "prior to any healing, the healer has to become a channel, purely a channel and nothing else" it may give you a clearer definition of the Healing roll the Student/Healer plays. The act of changing to a channel is that of attunement. The overall level of attunement will depend upon your development, the frequency you allow yourself to be used as a channel and the dedication you have in sitting to reach a level of attunement. 'The more you sit for meditation and the more you attempt to blend with your higher self, the better the level of attunement will be".

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Good morning,
Actually I've always thought that people don't need attuning to be a spiritual healer, to me the healing comes from above or the Divine if you like, you use your own connection, to me it's a sort of shaft of light that's attaches you to the divine & direct the healing using yourself as the channel, I have always taken it that it does come from the Divine, not spirit healers or spirit doctors so I'm not too sure about there being a need to become 'attuned' to such spirits...although if someones nateral strength is to heal or they develope healing then the chances are (IMHO...again:eek:) that they will have a spirit connected with healing working with them & guiding them, although, hands on healing isn't my thing & I've never been part of any spiritual healing group ect,although have been attuned to Reiki years ago

Love
Amy
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Actually I've always thought that people don't need attuning to be a spiritual healer, to me the healing comes from above or the Divine if you like, you use your own connection, to me it's a sort of shaft of light that's attaches you to the divine & direct the healing using yourself as the channel

Hi Amelia

Attunement means being or bringing into harmony; a feeling of being "at one" with another being be it earth bound or divine.

So without realising what you have done, you are attuned. Thats my whole point.

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Ah..I get you now, to me the word attunment gives me the impression that a person requires some sort of ritual type thing given by someone else..as in reiki where attunments are passed on from a reiki master..when I supose here we can just use the word 'tune' or 'tune in';)
Love
Amy
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Hi Amelia Jane

Slightly of subject but I thought I would answer.

No, there is no need of any fancy rituals with attunements.

For example: The Reiki attunement process is similar to any channelled healing module, it is an awareness of self-empowerment usually involving a spiritual initiation ceremony and /or meditation with a specific purpose and intent to connect to the Universal Healing Energy/Source. It is worth remembering that "Initiation" is also referred to as an "admission to the knowledge or instruction in the elements of any subject or practice.” Is this not the process that Dr. Usui went through when he received the Reiki keys to healing from Spirit?

Central to this process is the establishment of a connection with the source of the Healing energy. As a teacher I have seen my students many reactions to the process of them receiving an attunement. In varying degrees each student has been touched in some special way by Spirit. Attunements are a part of the process of reconnection to Spirit and a beginning of a new or renewed walk down the path of life and many doors are opened by the attunement.

It is also worth remembering that The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words - Rei which means "God's Wisdom or the Higher Power" and Ki which is "life force energy". So Reiki is actually "spiritually guided life force energy." As is Spiritual Healing.

to me it's a sort of shaft of light that's attaches you to the divine & direct the healing using yourself as the channel

That shaft of light also attached itself to Mikao Usui.

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No, there is no need of any fancy rituals with attunements.

which is what I'm saying about 'healing'....I do wonder that to people the word 'attunment' makes them think that they need to look 'outside' for classes and workshops to get 'attuned' and in many cases pay a fair bit for the process ...when if desired they can connect within & upwards & do it themselves;)...oh I know what I mean...anway, you're right..off topic[sm=wasntmesign.gif]honest[&:]

:eek:Back to 'non gifted healers':eek:[8D]

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Well to me I amgiftedeven though I have been attuned to reiki, the gift is that I use reiki in a way that it introduces many people to something that they may not have heard of before, I also as everyone else must do, bring something of myself into the reiki session, even in the way that I connect with people in the verbal sense.
The thing about reiki is that it is the intent to be attuned to the reiki that matters to me. If someone doesnt want to be attuned to reiki then it has been said that they wont be, no matter how many times someone tries to attune them.
I have absolutely no idea whether I could have connected with the source without having been attuned to reiki and anyway, if I had been able to, how could I have used it? I am wary of anything that would let me say, hey everyone I am a healer, well how do you know you are a healer, er I dont know I just know.
What would you call the healing you would be giving someone in that instance?
I dont know much about spiritual healing, I have read a fair bit on it lately and I may have got this wrong but I read that spiritual healing and reiki are very similar.
The thing is about reiki, is that it doesnt change everyones life. I didnt see stars, I didnt suddenly become psychic, I didnt walk around in a cloud of love, did it change my life, yes, did it change my life significantly? Im not sure, all I know is that I wouldnt be without it now. And if I can use reiki to help other people move to places that they want to be thats all well and good, the fact that I paid money to be attuned to reiki really doesnt cause me concern.

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Andrew McKella says that

"HEALING IS A GIFT not given lightly to us humans, and developed over many incarnations. Only once in a blue moon is a truly gifted healer born to this planet. Most healers practising today are not born with the gift and as a result (however genuine their intensions are) possess limited healing abilities. Be wary when seeking treatment and don't be wooed by impressive-looking certificates. Proof-positive comes with a mass of first-hand, healing testimonies, reassuring others that genuine results have been experienced where medical science has failed".

Back on topic!

IMHO we are all born with a gift of healing, from a mothers first touch to a new born child, to a healer who without cost offers that gift to anyone in need.

IMO There are many gifted healers who by their devotion to others and their link to the healing energies have literally performed miracles, but their personal preference is not to shout from the roof tops "Look what I have cured am I not the greatest healer you have ever seen" (Ego)? Remember that we are not doing the healing we are but a channel. For me proof positive is a loving nature and the wish to help others. ( I will add before someone shouts at me that emotional healing can be carried out purely by giving of the power of our own love to those in need).

Please those of you that are seeking healing, do not be wary of seeking treatment from a healer whether it be a Spiritual Healer, Reiki Healer, Energy Healer etc.

You may never know what the healing has done for you, healing does not just involve the so called "cures" It also works on the emotional levels of each of us therefore it could be performing a so called miracle cure by balancing your energies thus preventing a disease. Is this not a miracle in itself?

How many times have healers been impressed to work on specific areas without knowing why? When they mention to their client/patient about that, they may be told, "well I felt a twinge their last week but gave it no thought.

Do not let anyone belittle us, we all know within ourselves and by the thanks that we have received, that we are all channelling powerful healing energies and giving of our unfettered love to all those in need.
So yes I disagree with Andrew McKella and all those others who think that we are "Just healers that possess limited healing abilities".

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I was specifically speaking about an attunement given to you by someone. This is what I wanted to clarify.

In spiritual healing a person doesn't attune you.

Sure, we personally atttune to the source of love, but this isn't done to you by someone else like in reiki.

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In spiritual healing a person doesn't attune you.

Hi Rosi1
No you are perfectly right that an earthbound person does not attune you.

But IMO In both spiritual healing and reiki you are assisted in achieving that attunement by your teacher/master. The actual act of attunement is a specific personal connection with the healing energies/divine source/source of divine love/healing guides or whatever else we wish to call it.

Bit off topic but I thought I would reply.

Sorry moderator digressed again, butI had to reply to a question? [sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif]

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Ah.... never heard of this gent, but I do not agree with his statement atall. In my experience, more and more people are being drawn to give and receive healing because this world needs it desperately and healing starts with Her people... I cannot believe that all the wonderful healers I have met are not 'gifted' or are limited in some way. We may limit ourselves through our own doubts or fears, but that does not deny the fact of the healing ability hidden within the eternal spirit we all carry.

I think Mr McKella needs to clarify his statement... perhaps he means there are few 'master healers', such as the Christ or Buddha... which may be so.

Certificates do not a healermake... true... butI've yet to be asked to produce a certificate or testimony for someone I am working with. Bless 'em, they trust my energy and their ability to find a healer for them.People find thehelp they need.

BB
Moonfeather

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Hi all,
This is a very deverse subject as I am a Healer of many years as you are shown the process there is many different forms of healers in the world this I feel is a subject that the Angels of Matter can bring forward this time frame brings about the universal preaching of the light of love that the healer can give there are different forms of healers that can use the energies to build forward the process of light to individuals needs there are those that are able to heal through touch this is something that I wrote on my site that may give some understanding to those that are learning and those that are advanced in healingWith this in mind you are brought to the choice of which road you should take the Healing Angel of Humor or the Healing Angel of Comtemplation as you come into contact with your group they will slow you what aspect is needed, by standing still long enough to listen you will blend with them all but which one's this is sometimes not your choice not that this is really you when you put your hands in Gods path it is the part of God that you are a reflection of as you grow your about to embark on a path of richness. While learning and growing you are then bringing about a step into the right direction so that you are available to your Angels of differences so that they can bring about an reflective natural gift that is budding within, reflection is the correction that the Healing Angels brings with it the Healing course that will bring about a balancing to the Healer so that with a touch you are able to share the right energies that are needed at any point in time....
Now I am told by My Angel Gaurdians that Jesus directs the flow of Healing energies and looking to the forms of distinct forcasting of the ways that we move forward trough the portal of the passions of the light that comes from the divine light of interest that comes through the partering of the consious effort of the love that comes with that what will bring forward the new and the old ways a procession of the guidance of the Angels that bring forward the meriting of the productive parts of the blending of the particulars of the next flow of individualisms that bring forward the mixtures of the light that can brighten the parts often coincide with the blending of the mechinisms of light that is channeled brightness of the lifting of the partnering aspects of the polarity of the next forms of healing energies that come with the forms of the dictatorial partering prosperities bring forward a prosperous energy that can build forward attunement to those that are begining and those that are at levels of developing a flow of development that can bring about the attunement that will accomplish the newness that we can bring a parrelle balance to thoset that are in need of the loving energies that are available to building together partnership that comes forward though the partnering process of healing aspects we build together the new and the old lessons that the willingness of the love that healing can bring....God Bless the Healing Angels and there missions that will bring about the accomplishment to the healing Aspects of light to the Individual Accomplishments of the Healing light....Gypsy

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

But IMO In both spiritual healing and reiki you are assisted in achieving that attunement by your teacher/master. The actual act of attunement is a specific personal connection with the healing energies/divine source/source of divine love/healing guides or whatever else we wish to call it.

Bit off topic but I thought I would reply.

Sorry moderator digressed again, but I had to reply to a question? [sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif]

IME, it is in the nature of some threads to meander a little around a subject, and I don't see anything here that's irrelevant to the original post. It's not as if someone said Oh, BTW, when should I be planting out my runner beans? LOL 😀

I have read posts in the Reiki forum where people have said that they have attuned themselves directly to the source with no 'middle man'. I have read postsin otherforums where it has been said that nobody ever needs anything more than 'divine intervention' for either an attunement, or indeed for a healing, to be given by another person. That one simply has to ask ... and it is given.

My view is that this may be true for some ... possibly a minority ... but that for others a little help might be needed. I see nothing wrong in that, not in Reiki, not in spiritual healing, not in any other modality where DIY might not be the right way for everyone.

Holistic

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I just wanted to say thank you to Healistic for sharing these wonderful words....

Just thank you, Healistic.