Healing from emotionally scarred people

My thoughts are why would an 11 year old boy need healing??

Perhaps the healing has releases those pent up feelings emotional within himself ?

if a healer ( trainee healer ) gives healing to someone and they have suffered emotionally, mentally and physically can their pain and feelings be passed on to the person recieving the healing ?

Short answer:

Yes, indeed! And all of the troubles that it entails.
Any healer who shares his/her own personal energy with a client also shares the sum total of experience.

It’s like having a direct blood transfusion without cross matching. Anyone who receives healing that does not originate from source or is mixed with the personal energy of another is susceptible to all of the emotional experiences of that person.

The more highly developed the recipient, the greater is the negative effect. It IS NOT a healing crisis as you will be told.

There are solutions available. PM me, please.

Hello Quantrum,
I don't need to add anything because Holos has put it so well....

I send Love...

i'm assuming you mean emotionally scarred people? i'd hazard that emotionally scared people should be healing themselves first, before even attempting others!

Short answer:

Yes, indeed! And all of the troubles that it entails.
Any healer who shares his/her own personal energy with a client also shares the sum total of experience.

It’s like having a direct blood transfusion without cross matching. Anyone who receives healing that does not originate from source or is mixed with the personal energy of another is susceptible to all of the emotional experiences of that person.

The more highly developed the recipient, the greater is the negative effect. It IS NOT a healing crisis as you will be told.

There are solutions available. PM me, please.

i'm sorry, but if this is true, then i would say healing, and that includes pretty much most of the complementaries where energy is likely to transfer, is very dangerous and we shouldnt be doing it!

whatever happened to healing with the highest intent and greater good?

if the child was calm and collected before, i also wonder why he is having healing, at a centre, with a "trainee". where are the parents in this? what is their take on it.

Quantrum, how well do you know this child and family? are you sure its not just a coincidence... you know, starting back at school after the holidays, maybe a new school at that (i'm assuming). maybe the illness that he was seeking help for is making him angry...

This is why I prefer using Reiki to spiritual healing. With Reiki you are using the energy of the universe, you are being a channel, and none of your own energy. Granted it does take some time to get used to this idea, which is why at Reiki Level 1 the focus is very much on self-healing rather than on others, and you are requested to just use it on friends and family.

Again, if the healing is dedicated to the highest good of the client, then this intent clears the way for the healing to flow.

I agree with the comments made by Rosie too. If this child was 11, then where were the parents? Did they consent? I don't treat under-18s without the consent of at least one parent in writing.

Also there is a lot going on at the age of 11 these days, not the least being a change of school. I know that that sparked a very unhappy time in my life, and I wonder if what's really going on here is that the child is not having a good time at school and nobody's taking the trouble to find out and help him, hence the prickliness. It's too easy to blame what seems "obvious", and in this case the "obvious" is something "spooky".

Finally, I don't know a single person who isn't emotionally scarred (note the spelling!).

Short answer:

Yes, indeed! And all of the troubles that it entails.
Any healer who shares his/her own personal energy with a client also shares the sum total of experience.

It’s like having a direct blood transfusion without cross matching. Anyone who receives healing that does not originate from source or is mixed with the personal energy of another is susceptible to all of the emotional experiences of that person.

The more highly developed the recipient, the greater is the negative effect. It IS NOT a healing crisis as you will be told.

There are solutions available. PM me, please.

My friend thank you, for this reply, you said what I was thinking, you explained it perfectly.

This boy is highly developed, beyond most people I have seen, he channels famious people who have passed, he is a spiritual artist, and a world class medium, he recieved healing for the simple reason so he could relax within himself more, the lady who gave him the healing said he gave her healing at the same time.
I am a natural healer which is very close to spiritual healing, but the reply on Reiki seems to make alot of sense as it is universal energy, especially when it comes people needing to heal themselves.

thank you all so very much for your replies, this child is my very own gifted child.

i'm assuming you mean emotionally scarred people? i'd hazard that emotionally scared people should be healing themselves first, before even attempting others!

i'm sorry, but if this is true, then i would say healing, and that includes pretty much most of the complementaries where energy is likely to transfer, is very dangerous and we shouldnt be doing it!

whatever happened to healing with the highest intent and greater good?

if the child was calm and collected before, i also wonder why he is having healing, at a centre, with a "trainee". where are the parents in this? what is their take on it.

Quantrum, how well do you know this child and family? are you sure its not just a coincidence... you know, starting back at school after the holidays, maybe a new school at that (i'm assuming). maybe the illness that he was seeking help for is making him angry...

This is my child my friend, and we were led to believe the healers there were very experienced, not trainees.

The anger he is displaying is the energy of the healer, I give healing and healing energy when channeled through pure thought is made of pure devine love, and this was what I was led to believe he was recieving.

I have gave my child healing since he was 7 years old, he recieved a spiritual attunement at 8 years old and spend 2 years releasing emtional stress caused by his school life, I give him energy all the time every day 24 hours a day 7 days a week and I would give him the last breath in my body if it helped him, but I am only a human being and I drain of energy as I give constantly, this is why I thought another experienced healer would be helpful.

...Prodigious!! 🙁


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This is why I prefer using Reiki to spiritual healing. With Reiki you are using the energy of the universe, you are being a channel, and none of your own energy.

Spiritual healing is no diffeent to reiki. Both systems access universal energy. I just feel I need to correct the above statement.

Quite a burden for one so young there Quantrum!!

...may he be able to handle this life of service without any detriment to himself :), and may his school peers accept his special gifts and regard him as another one their equals.

It would be a sad state if he were not treated with any due regard and seperated out for any reason, causing him any stress???

Spiritual healing is no diffeent to reiki. Both systems access universal energy. I just feel I need to correct the above statement.

Yes I see your point but I still feel that with Reiki you are accessing something different and you - your self - is out of the equation. I realise that not everyone thinks the same way but that is my experience.

Quantrum, just read your post about using your own energy and feeling drained: have you thought about becoming attuned to another energy system?

Yes I see your point but I still feel that with Reiki you are accessing something different and you - your self - is out of the equation. I realise that not everyone thinks the same way but that is my experience.

In all types of healing your 'self' can't fully be out of the equation because you are there present making a connection.

In spiritual healing we use GAPP.

G = grounding
A = attunement (to the source, universal energy)
P = permission
P= protection

As with reiki, we access universal energy. All healing comes from the Source regardless of what name you wish to give it.

Quite a burden for one so young there Quantrum!!

...may he be able to handle this life of service without any detriment to himself :), and may his school peers accept his special gifts and regard him as another one their equals.

It would be a sad state if he were not treated with any due regard and seperated out for any reason, causing him any stress???

Hi Fleur your statement is a good one, he is educated from home and has being for the last 2 years, he has dealt with a lot of emotional distress caused by him being different from others around him at school, but he is confident, strong in mind and determend with such a level personality, he is very grounded and wise beyond his years.

He has become a teacher in his own right with knowledge beyond children his age, he is a teacher in life.

Since the healing, which I regret taking him, he has changed alot, and I know as his parent that it is not the age he is at, or that this is his own emotional stress, because at one point 3 days after the healing I thought he would be sectioned because of his behaviour, he has never being like this ever before.

Fleur he has battled with being different all his life, with himself as he just wanted to be like everyone else, but he is not, it is like talking to a 20 year old, on a very mature level.

In all types of healing your 'self' can't fully be out of the equation because you are there present making a connection.

In spiritual healing we use GAPP.

G = grounding
A = attunement (to the source, universal energy)
P = permission
P= protection

As with reiki, we access universal energy. All healing comes from the Source regardless of what name you wish to give it.

Rosi1 could you please explain to me what a spiritual attunement is, I thought attunements were performed by Reiki Masters in Reiki healing ?
you seem to have a great insight into how it all works.

I am very interested in your concepts ?

Quantrum, just read your post about using your own energy and feeling drained: have you thought about becoming attuned to another energy system?

In my experience Reiki healing is different than Spiritual, I believe Reiki is a short term supply of energy, unless you recieve healing on a regular basis, for it to be affective, in the long term.

Spiritual healing in my experience in like having a ongoing supply of energy that is accessable, as we all have the natural ability to heal ourselves, instead of drawing on universal energy that is designed to stablise the planet and help heal the natural world at its own pace.

Its like draining the world of a natural energy, when we have our own energy to use, after all this is why we came to the earth plane, to heal ourselves instead of killing the world by starving it of energy.

If we used our own energy instead of the "universal" energy our planet would be a calmer happier place, and we would not suffer from adverse weather patterns.

This is my concept of course we all have our own.

Quantrum,

I thoroughly disagree with you, but you have every right to your opinion. I believe our own energy to be limited, which is why you're finding you are tired after giving it to another person: and that the energy of the Universe is unlimited, which is why I prefer to tap into it via Reiki and use it in a healing session. You may wish to consider whether your belief is limiting your experience.

Sorry if I sound rude, I'm really not, but reading this back it reads a little "short" and I don't know how I can rephrase it.

Quantrum,

I thoroughly disagree with you, but you have every right to your opinion. I believe our own energy to be limited, which is why you're finding you are tired after giving it to another person: and that the energy of the Universe is unlimited, which is why I prefer to tap into it via Reiki and use it in a healing session. You may wish to consider whether your belief is limiting your experience.

Sorry if I sound rude, I'm really not, but reading this back it reads a little "short" and I don't know how I can rephrase it.

My friend I respect your thoughts on this, no need to be sorry, I believe our own healing energy is unlimited, but we do get tired, and to me that is a sign we have reached the maximum amount of healing energy our physical body can take without burning it out, energy powers the world, how much can the physical body take before it tires.
Once the body gets tired when we heal ourselves, then we need a few days or weeks to allow the energy to settle and take its course, also we get tired because our minds are on a higher level than our bodies and it becomes draining for the body to keep up.

my son is 11 years old, I give him my energy on all levels, as well as on a healing level, this is why I become drained.
you made a good point though ? I just feel we are joined with the universe and its energy through our souls.

I will attempt to explain my understanding of healing, apart from loyalties to any healing system.

Healing has existed as long as people have, and longer. It isn’t something that is new in the last century or even the last few thousand years. It simply exists as a phenomenon apart from thought or dogma. We tend to forget this or have never considered it.

Both Reiki and Spiritual Healing are circumscribed by rules, regulations and beliefs, which individuals must internalize. The very act of focus upon other individuals limits the realm of possibilities that we can accept.

There will always be conflict between the Reiki cult and the Spiritual Healing cult because of the belief systems imposed. What we believe does not change what is.

Healing is an interaction between an individual and all that is. For that matter, so is disease. The way we respond to the situations and experiences in our lives is reflected in the emotions and the physical make-up of the self. Healing on this level, on a one-to-one basis between soul and source, carries with it no peril.

It is when we begin to insert ourselves, and our ego, between the soul and source that danger exists and that beliefs become more important, in our own minds, than the healing process.

Our thoughts, in ALL situations, limit the direction and the results. If we think that we are “safe” in accepting healing through someone else we will not take adequate precautions. If we think that our “intentions” protect someone else, we will try to direct the energy from source in the way that we prefer.

If we let go of all control, ask that the recipient receive only energy from source, and allow the energy to flow without our conscious thought and unconscious restriction, we can then be a tool in the healing process.

We are NEVER necessary to another’s healing! We can be instrumental but it is only by way of demonstrating unconditional Love—and that can only be through our ability to allow ourselves to participate in the expression of Love unconditionally! That means without intent, without preconceived notions, without techniques, without ceremony, without inserting ourselves into the equation in any way except to allow ourselves to be used.

Those people who believe that they, personally, have the ability to heal, are the ones who are indeed, dangerous. And the danger is in direct relation to the ego involvement of the one claiming to do the healing. Two categories are most susceptible: those new to what they think of as the healing game and those who attribute the healing to what they do. They do not remove themselves from the healing.

So why is it permissible for us to participate with others in their healing? Because some people need the example. We therefore have the responsibility to allow only the purest of flow from source. When we start adding things other than pure and unconditional Love, we sully the content and therefore the result.

As for tiredness when healing, it often is because we are using our own energy. But it is sometimes because we are stretching beyond our usual capacity in order to allow a greater degree of healing than we would be able to provide otherwise. In the same way that an electrical wire gets hot when carrying a charge that is somewhat beyond its capacity, we can feel exhaustion when allowing healing from source. It is necessary, at those times, to be sure that you are eating enough and to add chocolate to your diet. You will find that it helps tremendously. =)

I will attempt to explain my understanding of healing, apart from loyalties to any healing system.

Healing has existed as long as people have, and longer. It isn’t something that is new in the last century or even the last few thousand years. It simply exists as a phenomenon apart from thought or dogma. We tend to forget this or have never considered it.

Both Reiki and Spiritual Healing are circumscribed by rules, regulations and beliefs, which individuals must internalize. The very act of focus upon other individuals limits the realm of possibilities that we can accept.

There will always be conflict between the Reiki cult and the Spiritual Healing cult because of the belief systems imposed. What we believe does not change what is.

Healing is an interaction between an individual and all that is. For that matter, so is disease. The way we respond to the situations and experiences in our lives is reflected in the emotions and the physical make-up of the self. Healing on this level, on a one-to-one basis between soul and source, carries with it no peril.

It is when we begin to insert ourselves, and our ego, between the soul and source that danger exists and that beliefs become more important, in our own minds, than the healing process.

Our thoughts, in ALL situations, limit the direction and the results. If we think that we are “safe” in accepting healing through someone else we will not take adequate precautions. If we think that our “intentions” protect someone else, we will try to direct the energy from source in the way that we prefer.

If we let go of all control, ask that the recipient receive only energy from source, and allow the energy to flow without our conscious thought and unconscious restriction, we can then be a tool in the healing process.

We are NEVER necessary to another’s healing! We can be instrumental but it is only by way of demonstrating unconditional Love—and that can only be through our ability to allow ourselves to participate in the expression of Love unconditionally! That means without intent, without preconceived notions, without techniques, without ceremony, without inserting ourselves into the equation in any way except to allow ourselves to be used.

Those people who believe that they, personally, have the ability to heal, are the ones who are indeed, dangerous. And the danger is in direct relation to the ego involvement of the one claiming to do the healing. Two categories are most susceptible: those new to what they think of as the healing game and those who attribute the healing to what they do. They do not remove themselves from the healing.

So why is it permissible for us to participate with others in their healing? Because some people need the example. We therefore have the responsibility to allow only the purest of flow from source. When we start adding things other than pure and unconditional Love, we sully the content and therefore the result.

As for tiredness when healing, it often is because we are using our own energy. But it is sometimes because we are stretching beyond our usual capacity in order to allow a greater degree of healing than we would be able to provide otherwise. In the same way that an electrical wire gets hot when carrying a charge that is somewhat beyond its capacity, we can feel exhaustion when allowing healing from source. It is necessary, at those times, to be sure that you are eating enough and to add chocolate to your diet. You will find that it helps tremendously. =)

Halos this is a wonderful explanation, except I have fasted for 7 days before to cleanse my body and heal at the same time, I seemed to have more energy than when I did eat ? I think we all experience things in our own ways thats comfortable but challenging to us, to help us achieve our goals. just a thought

Hi all

Ah the magic chocolate pick up, does it work you bet! Almonds also really give you a boost as you assimilate the stretch that using more and more energy brings on. Nancy’s viewpoint I of course fully support but then we learnt a lot of it together and the experience that followed the insight was proof that what was shared with us was and still is correct. But the learning never stops.

Training does get in the way far more than most are ready to accept, why? Because the training is human in origin and as such is generally flawed. As the energy comes from source so too can the insight that will allow you to grow as a human being. And to get to the point where the connection is strong enough means spending time on self healing every chance you get. Sounds simple and in essence it really is. The hard bit is being willing to begin again with a slate wiped clean of all that we think we know via the various systems of healing

Healing is first and foremost a very personal journey hand in hand with the creator. The ability to provide the opportunity for others to heal themselves is a bonus.

I have fasted for 7 days before to cleanse my body and heal at the same time, I seemed to have more energy than when I did eat ? I think we all experience things in our own ways thats comfortable but challenging to us, to help us achieve our goals.

There is a place of emotional euphoria that can be accessed through fasting, but it is not sustainable for long periods of time. I think that there can be circumstances where fasting is appropriate, but in general, our human bodies need sustenance to survive.

Rosi1 could you please explain to me what a spiritual attunement is, I thought attunements were performed by Reiki Masters in Reiki healing ?
you seem to have a great insight into how it all works.

I am very interested in your concepts ?

Hi Quantrum, By 'attument' I mean that we attune to the source of all healing. We access the healing energies of the universe; we don't use our own energy to heal.

When I give a healing treatment, I ask that healing is given from the highest source, so that I do not become involved in the healing. I make the connection or 'healing triangle' but ask that the healing energy is from a pure source. That way the person receiving the healing is obtaining pure energy.

There will always be conflict between the Reiki cult and the Spiritual Healing cult because of the belief systems imposed. What we believe does not change what is.

There are very few belief systems with spiritual healing actually. We recognise that the healing energies are 'spiritual in nature. That's pretty much it actually - if you read the code of conduct that is what it will say.

Whether you then believe in guides and angels is up to you but quite esentially we know that the energy we tap into and access is not from the material plane.

:hippy:Hello Everyone,

I am a natural Healer i am also a natural medium and a qualified Counsellor, every one has the ability to heal it depends if they know how to harness the energy to do it, but as you use your energy you can get tired because it drains you,
my Daughter is a very gifter medium and healer, she is also very wise for her years, she read this post over my shoulder, and she said nobody can do everything we all need the hlp of others at some point,
the healing your child has the healer was transfered his problems on to your son. this can be done mentally, your son needs to be cleansed of the healers problems, by someone other than yourself, speaking as a counsellor we can counsell anyone but you cant counsell yourself.

take care

Well I disagree with the word "cult" to describe Reiki: it seems that Dr Usui went out of his way to avoid creating a "cult"! The attunement in Reiki is different to the attunement in spiritual healing, in that the Reiki attunement is passed from the master to the student in a once-for-all-time attunement to the Universal or Spiritual Life Force. In spiritual healing, I was taught you attune to your client and ask the Universal or Spiritual Life Force to flow through you.

You could visualise it as being a radio, pre-tuned to receive the Reiki frequency: in spiritual healing you are still the radio but you have to use the dial to tune in to the healing frequency. I believe this to carry a degree of uncertainty around the nature and access of the energy, and that is why I much prefer to use Reiki: it is already there and I just have to intend that Reiki flows and it will. I don't have to go through a complicated cleansing/ attunement/protection process.

Your mileage may vary, of course!

Well I disagree with the word "cult" to describe Reiki: it seems that Dr Usui went out of his way to avoid creating a "cult"! The attunement in Reiki is different to the attunement in spiritual healing, in that the Reiki attunement is passed from the master to the student in a once-for-all-time attunement to the Universal or Spiritual Life Force. In spiritual healing, I was taught you attune to your client and ask the Universal or Spiritual Life Force to flow through you.

You could visualise it as being a radio, pre-tuned to receive the Reiki frequency: in spiritual healing you are still the radio but you have to use the dial to tune in to the healing frequency. I believe this to carry a degree of uncertainty around the nature and access of the energy, and that is why I much prefer to use Reiki: it is already there and I just have to intend that Reiki flows and it will. I don't have to go through a complicated cleansing/ attunement/protection process.

Your mileage may vary, of course!

There is actually only one type of attunement, and believe me not many people have experienced it yet, it has nothing to do with Reiki or Spiritual healing, it is all about the natural ability to heal, nothing else.

Reiki and Spiritual are names given by a person who created them, everything if we think about it is natural, a natural universe.

A true attunement tunes your physical, mental, and emotional onto a balanced level to become in harmony as one, then they are attuned to your spirit, as healing takes place in order of most need, the spirit first then the body, or vice versa.

But there is a part of the attunement that not even a Reiki Master will know of, and that cannot be shared, but learnt direct from the teacher.

well I have not met a Reiki Master, or a Spiritual healer who shares this same knowledge.

Hi Quantrum....

I wrote this before I saw your latest words about natural healing....
but will still share....

It is often presumed that in order to be a healer that you have to have taken either a spiritual healing course or had a reiki attunement.

When I have shared in the past that I didn't do either, the most common response was.. oh well then you must be a natural healer then.

But I am not a natural healer.
For me "being natural" means that I probably would have been able to heal right from being little.
I couldn't.
So the way I see it I am not a natural healer.

It is only after the self healing that the healing naturally evolved.

Precisely...

Healing is first and foremost a very personal journey hand in hand with the creator. The ability to provide the opportunity for others to heal themselves is a bonus.

The healing that happens now
happens when it does...

There is absolutely no uncertainly around spiritual healing. We don't need anyone to attune us to an energy that we can access ourselves. We always have access to the energy, we don't need attuning to it.

By attunement I mean something totally different to a reiki attunement. Attunement to us means being in a quiet space that is conducive to carrying out healing.

That's it - we merely ask permission and begin to access the energy and absolutely we ask the higher self of the person for permission and acceptance of the gift of healing they are going to receive. In other words, what one would call 'manners and being mindful' of the other persons soul.

Simple and it works.

Well I disagree with the word "cult" to describe Reiki: it seems that Dr Usui went out of his way to avoid creating a "cult"! The attunement in Reiki is different to the attunement in spiritual healing, in that the Reiki attunement is passed from the master to the student in a once-for-all-time attunement to the Universal or Spiritual Life Force. In spiritual healing, I was taught you attune to your client and ask the Universal or Spiritual Life Force to flow through you.

You could visualise it as being a radio, pre-tuned to receive the Reiki frequency: in spiritual healing you are still the radio but you have to use the dial to tune in to the healing frequency. I believe this to carry a degree of uncertainty around the nature and access of the energy, and that is why I much prefer to use Reiki: it is already there and I just have to intend that Reiki flows and it will. I don't have to go through a complicated cleansing/ attunement/protection process.

Your mileage may vary, of course!