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lena
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Hi

I know someone who would like some reiki on a broken collar bone, broken only 5 days ago. I know we shouldn't reiki a bone until it has been properly set but the collar bone is not set. The xray looks like a clean break . Not sure what to do. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
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Lena xxxx

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Reikiangel
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RE: Reiki on broken bones

EXACTLY, so why did you feel the need to 'correct' me?

Love and light

reikiangel

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

I know for a FACT that Reiki goes where it is needed. Time and again over the past 10yrs I have seen the proof with my own eyes. I give Reiki 'tasters' at events etc and I give 15 mins. I am not 'treating' anyone, just letting the energy flow for them to experience how it feels. It's AFTER this that I ask for feedback and then people say "oh, I felt more heat/cold/tingling etcin this spot". I then ask them have they had an injury/operation/ emotional trauma in that areaand EVERY time the answer is yes!

Just a thought, but perhaps they feel the energy purely because people tend to have these sort of sensations when energy generally travelling through the body, it does not necessarily mean that the energy is working directly on the condition, simply that they feel it in this area because that is a weak spot in their body. Personally, I feel it is much more effective to work on the presenting condition. If someone comes to me and says I have spina bifida, I am going to work on that, as it is the problem that requires the most urgent attention. If the individual had a pain, with no known medical cause and I intuitively felt that the issue was emotional, then I would use emotional healing, directed at the specific emotional trauma.

I believe that just by channelling energy without input, too many different frequencies of energy are used in one go and only a small part of the energy is working on the condition, the rest is being wasted, where as if the energy is concentrated using intention, visualisation and the Reiki symbols, the exact frequency needed by the condition is being used and so none of the energy is wasted.

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

EXACTLY, so why did you feel the need to 'correct' me?

I wasn't correcting you, I was just clarifying the point for other users of the forum. Sorry if I caused offence.

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

Reiki has an intelligence of its own - it will go to where it is needed!
My opinion is that Reiki can never do any harm!
Always ask that whatever healing is necessary will go to the person if it is for their highest good for as often and for as long as it is needed.

To say that Reiki can interfere with the healing of a broken bone is like saying that certain prayers could harm a person if said for them.
You are treating the whole person, not just the broken bone, the Powers that Be decide on what is appropriate, we are not the Healers, but, rather should be thought of as catalysts facilitating triggering of a healing process.

The next thing we will hear is that some "stray" rays of Reiki being beamed to somebody over a distance will literally "hop" against someone who gets in the way and could damage them!

By all means ask the GP for permission - most times he will voice an opinion on something he has never studied!!!!!!!

After all we have free will and a free choice.

I have been practicinf Reflexology since 1979 and Reiki since 1995 professionally and have never heard of either modalities ever causing harm - the time is nigh for therapists to trust themselves or seek more competent teachers.

Anthony Larkin
Principal, European Reiki Healing Institute, & European Institute of Classical Reflexology

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

ORIGINAL: lena

Hi

I know someone who would like some reiki on a broken collar bone, broken only 5 days ago. I know we shouldn't reiki a bone until it has been properly set but the collar bone is not set. The xray looks like a clean break . Not sure what to do. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Love

Lena xxxx

ive yet to see any hard evidence to back this up so its yet another reiki myth IMO....and dead contrary to 'reiki is intelligent and goes where its needed':eek:...often uttered in the same sentence as the bone thing..lol. not exactly reiki but a comfrey compress works wonders;)

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Reiki Pixie
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RE: Reiki on broken bones

Hi ya Reiki Dudes

I've been practising Reiki since 1996 and I have tried different methods and techniques. I found (for me) that Reiki works both directly (as in chakra or acupressure work) or indirectly (as in intuitive hands-on healing, going with the flow and giving it some welly). I feel that Reiki has a subtleflow that is goes with whatever you believe in (i.e. reflex zones, TCM, Ayurveda, various chakra models, auric levels, faith in a healing deity or higherselfand so forth). Adding to that, it's like a homeostatic healing mechanism (negative feedback loop) that adjusts according to the need of the receiver. You can call that higher intelligence if you like.

As for broken bones or any other serious injuries, common sense is necessary, and then the application of Reiki. Why waste time arguing over hearsay - act like spiritual warriors not frightened bunnies!

I also agree with the comments that healing the whole person is important. Why did the person with the broken bone (without being judgemental) find themself in that situation? What needs to be learnt? What does it stop the person doing? etc..........

Best Wishes

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

I was taught by my reiki master that reiki helps to speed up the healing process of bones. I have been doing reiki since 1997 and not come across damage from reiki where broken bones are concerned. We have a duty of care to advise a client to seek medical care for any condition. it is advisable to say in notes that the patient was advised to seek medical treatment. I never ceases to be amazed at the results reiki achieves.

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

I have been practicinf Reflexology since 1979 and Reiki since 1995 professionally and have never heard of either modalities ever causing harm - the time is nigh for therapists to trust themselves or seek more competent teachers.

Slightly off topic, but IMO you should not say that reflexology couldn’t cause harm.
Reiki is non evasive, whereas reflexology has many contra indications.

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RE: Reiki on broken bones

Reiki has an intelligence of its own - it will go to where it is needed!

I have heard many Reiki people say this. This is a modern Western concept as it contradicts the way Reiki was taught and practiced in Japan by Usui-sensei and Hayashi-sensei. They used Byosen Reikan Ho to actaully locate areas that needed treating, and they developed the Ryoho Shishon guide to healing that gave specific and precise hand positions for a large number of illnesses and injuries. They obviously believed that the energy went where you put it, which is what I believe and have found in my experience to be true.
I do wonder where this concept originated from, as it is not from Usui Reiki Ryoho.

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Decades back in my late 20s, I cracked a rib in a hot tub accident. It took six weeks to heal with lots of pain, and it did not heal properly since it cracked again. Same thing the second time around but the third time I cracked it (all in the same spot) I used energy medicine and it took only five weeks, with much less pain, and it healed back to full strength. I didn't mean to test it, but in the worst fall of my lifetime (after scores, perhaps hundreds, at the roller rink learning jumps back in my teens) I fell on the ski slopes at a pretty fast clip. I could barely walk away from that fall, with 3 of my six deltoids so shot that raising my arms to the front or one side caused excruciating pain, but the rib held. I was thrilled, since I still skate and I'm trying to get my jumps back in late middle age. If I was unable to take a fall in practice, I would have to stop trying to jump. Nursing those three cracked ribs are the only times I have ever felt old.

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If Reiki is so good why can't it realign a broken bone?.

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Well, let's be realistic. Reiki assists the body to naturally heal, it's not going to physically move and adjust things beyond what the body would naturally achieve. If that were the case, then Reiki could become a new form of martial arts, with the ability to cast attackers aside with our thoughts and energy... kind of like Yellow Bamboo (Bambu Kuning)... [something I had a go at once and found it ... interesting]

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Well, let's be realistic. Reiki assists the body to naturally heal, it's not going to physically move and adjust things beyond what the body would naturally achieve.

I may be wrong but as I understand it the body already has the blueprint for perfection and will realign itself naturally if we do not obstruct the process. Reiki, if it is a "spiritual" energy should, I would have thought be compatible with this and support that blueprint irrespective of how its presentation appears.

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Since when is Reiki a "spiritual" energy?
People have mis-translated Reiki to mean "Spiritual Energy", but that is a Western translation and interpretation of the Kanji. Reiki more closely translates as Unseen (Rei) Universal Energy (Ki) i.e. the energy that is of everything.

Are you suggesting that if I break my bones, my body has the ability to automatically re-align those bones without intervention from a medical practitioner? That's a very dangerous assumption to be making.

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Since when is Reiki a "spiritual" energy?
People have mis-translated Reiki to mean "Spiritual Energy", but that is a Western translation and interpretation of the Kanji. Reiki more closely translates as Unseen (Rei) Universal Energy (Ki) i.e. the energy that is of everything.

Are you suggesting that if I break my bones, my body has the ability to automatically re-align those bones without intervention from a medical practitioner? That's a very dangerous assumption to be making.

Hi
I don't know about the others but when I refer to spiritual energy I do mean Universal energy. IE Divine energy. To me they are the same.
As far as the body's ability to repair itself. I believe that the body is just the outward presentation of Divine energy, which by definition is perfect, so yes the capability is there.
That does not mean that it is bound to happen, many things can interfere and prevent it happening, not least is the human belief itself..
The mind is the most powerful thing in existence but it can also be the most destructive.
If the mind says that something won't happen then it will not.

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So, if someone came to you for healing with a broken bone, would you tell them they shouldn't visit a medical practitioner to have the bone set correctly in place, but instead they should just believe that it will correct itself?

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So, if someone came to you for healing with a broken bone, would you tell them they shouldn't visit a medical practitioner to have the bone set correctly in place, but instead they should just believe that it will correct itself?

Absolutely not. That would be extremely irresponsible, if not criminal.
However if some one came to me and said that the medical profession could not help them and that they had been told that they were going to die then I would try to explain to them that it would be in their interest to seek "alternative" treatment.
In my mind there is no illness or disease that can't be cured by the correct understanding. Applying that understanding is the problem.

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And there is one of the main problems. People referring to our therapies as "Alternative" rather than "Complementary" are what puts the distrust and scepticism in those bodies that regulate the legalities of what we do; and makes scientific research in to such things immediately discredit it as 'quackery'.

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And there is one of the main problems. People referring to our therapies as "Alternative" rather than "Complementary" are what puts the distrust and scepticism in those bodies that regulate the legalities of what we do; and makes scientific research in to such things immediately discredit it as 'quackery'.

The problem is, if one is going to accept that Reiki (or any other energy) is "universal energy" then one has to accept that it is the energy of creation itself.
That being said it can't be limited to "complementary". Complementary to what?, are there two universal energies ?. Are there two types of oxygen's or two types of hydrogen's?.
As far as so called scientific research goes I have never seen one dis-accreditation to energy healing that actually holds up. Most "scientific research" appear as articles created (in my opinion) by biased individuals who seem to have very little understanding, if any of the subject themselves.
If the truth is known, Universal energy is the prime and mankind is the alternate. Complementary should not even come into it.
In my opinion the distrust comes because the Reiki practitioner himself/herself does not trust the power.

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The problem is, if one is going to accept that Reiki (or any other energy) is "universal energy" then one has to accept that it is the energy of creation itself.
That being said it can't be limited to "complementary". Complementary to what?, are there two universal energies ?. Are there two types of oxygen's or two types of hydrogen's?.
As far as so called scientific research goes I have never seen one dis-accreditation to energy healing that actually holds up. Most "scientific research" appear as articles created (in my opinion) by biased individuals who seem to have very little understanding, if any of the subject themselves.
If the truth is known, Universal energy is the prime and mankind is the alternate. Complementary should not even come into it.

Referring to it as "Divine" and "Energy of Creation" implies that there is some religious beliefs behind it. If you want to believe the energy to be coming from some divine source or God or whatever, that's fine, but that's not Reiki, which isn't based on any specific religious beliefs.

The practice is "complementary" because it complements traditional orthodox medicine/treatments; it's not an alternative to them. All Reiki practitioners should understand that.

It's true that much of the scientific "research" is biased, but that bias is not going to go away when practitioners start referring to the energy as having it's origins with God, or that it's an alternative to orthodox treatments. All that does is compound the issue.
Reiki practitioners are all to do with being complementary therapists; anybody saying they are an "alternative" therapist is damaging the reputation of the whole field.

In my opinion the distrust comes because the Reiki practitioner himself/herself does not trust the power.

I'm not sure how you have come to that conclusion. You seem to be suggesting that Reiki is passive and will just do what is needed. In that case, what is the point of people being therapists, as surely people will just heal because Reiki is divinely guided and has the power to heal without the needs of a practitioner. That's completely illogical and doesn't fit with the teachings of Reiki.

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Referring to it as "Divine" and "Energy of Creation" implies that there is some religious beliefs behind it. If you want to believe the energy to be coming from some divine source or God or whatever, that's fine, but that's not Reiki, which isn't based on any specific religious beliefs.

The practice is "complementary" because it complements traditional orthodox medicine/treatments; it's not an alternative to them. All Reiki practitioners should understand that.

It's true that much of the scientific "research" is biased, but that bias is not going to go away when practitioners start referring to the energy as having it's origins with God, or that it's an alternative to orthodox treatments. All that does is compound the issue.
Reiki practitioners are all to do with being complementary therapists; anybody saying they are an "alternative" therapist is damaging the reputation of the whole field.

I'm not sure how you have come to that conclusion. You seem to be suggesting that Reiki is passive and will just do what is needed. In that case, what is the point of people being therapists, as surely people will just heal because Reiki is divinely guided and has the power to heal without the needs of a practitioner. That's completely illogical and doesn't fit with the teachings of Reiki.

Hi
To be honest I don't associate "energy" as belonging to any Religious belief, just as I don't associate oxygen, which is a life energy in itself as belonging to any religious belief. Religious beliefs are man made.
I do feel that energy has been greatly underestimated. To me its like saying that an aeroplane is just for taxing around the ground with without realising that it has the power to fly.
The placebo effect is a prime example. Many people seem to categorise it as just a wacky phenomena, yet surgeons are actually carrying out placebo operations, and experiencing similar success rates as conventional surgery,
Once you start working with energy in my opinion the sky's the limit, irrespective of what classification you decide to put it in..

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