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Health & The Reiki Body (part 2)

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 Buck
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Illness and disease is something that continues to manifest in Reiki Masters.

It is not uncommon for Western Reiki Masters to provide Reiki Attunements in specific levels such as Level 1, Level 2 and Level 3 (those given are examples only and not meant to be “the only” attunements given).

The Japanese have a tendency to have longer life-span than Westerners. The Japanese do not use a gradient system of levels but rather simply channel the energy on a regular, unrestricted basis.

May we conclude that restricting the Reiki attunements to specific levels imbalances the energy matrix of the body, causing illness and disease as a symptom of the imbalance?

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Is this part of the other thread? Can you post it as a reply to avoid multiple threads?

Then I'll post an answer. 🙂

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Part 1 discusses the general nature of illness now being used to promote spiritual advancement in the Reiki Master Teacher community.

Part 2 discusses the energy-matrix, meridian lines that manifest the body and how imbalances may manifest disease.

One is inspired by the other but for academic purposes of rhetoric, they are separate topics.

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Reiki and Japan

Where do you get your information that Japanese Reiki does not have levels? Are you quite sure that all Reiki delivered in Japan does not have levels?

I don't have the understanding that Reiki is a prophylactic but that it heals across space and time. I have certainly noticed since becoming a Reiki master that I don't get as ill as often as I did.

My conclusion is that, despite being attuned to Reiki, I am still human and subject to the human conditions. I get the impression from your post that you want to label the Reiki attunement process as known in the West as "wrong". My guidance has been that it's all "wrong" - it can never be perfect because we are humans and are not perfect - but that the Powers that Be "fix".

YMMV of course!

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My understanding of the way Usui sensei taught Reiki was that it was taught in two ways. One way involved regular empowerments whilst the other way involved teaching in 'levels' for those who were truly unable to attend regular teachings.

Tadao Yamaguchi who was taught by his mother (who in turn was taught by Dr Hayashi) still teaches it without any alteration of techniques exactly as it was passed down. His teaching of Reiki (Jikiden Reiki) is taught in levels and, to my knowledge, this has not brought about any ill effects.

I personally don't feel that restricting reiki to levels (if it really is 'restricted') has any adverse effect.

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One thing about reiki and illness is that many of the early reiki teachers are now dead. Usui died at a relatively early age, I heard it was from a heart condition, so keep in mind that Reiki has of yet made anyone immortal :o.

I know that one of Usui's students did live past 100, which is very impressive, but in parts of Japan that is not that unusual. Their diet seems to be one of best. My Great grandparents also made it to 100 and where quite fit on a standard American diet, pre-processed foods.

I do understand the point you are making, as yes many who claim to be healers, wish to present to the public that they are illness free.

I found it interesting in the Sufi tradition that they had a term called the Sheiks disease. The Sheik's disease was something all the Healers had. Basically it is an incurable illness, that make the healer more humble.

The Sheik I studied with had a very serious back problem.

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Patrick

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It is not uncommon for Western Reiki Masters to provide Reiki Attunements in specific levels such as Level 1, Level 2 and Level 3 (those given are examples only and not meant to be “the only” attunements given)

Actually I was taught Reiki in Japan and I underwent 3 main attunements and 6 other specific attunements.

May we conclude that restricting the Reiki attunements to specific levels imbalances the energy matrix of the body, causing illness and disease as a symptom of the imbalance?

In short No. 🙂

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no, I don't think we can either.
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The Japanese have a tendency to have longer life-span than Westerners.

As they adopt a more Western way of living, their life-span will match those "enjoyed" by Westerners. There's a thread in the tai chi section on masters and longevity. It doesn't look promising.

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I am in agreement with the majority - the short answer to your question is no!

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Great post Stephen!!

I wondered if the longevity of some of the older Japanese was because of calorific restriction (this is known to extend life expectancy) due to the lack of natural resources available to the average Japanese citizen pre WWII? Which has now changed drastically.

Please share more of your thoughts on Reiki also where is the Part 1 post?

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Please share more of your thoughts on Reiki also where is the Part 1 post?

That'll be [url]Health & The Reiki Body (Part 1)[/url] then.

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I wondered if the longevity of some of the older Japanese was because of calorific restriction (this is known to extend life expectancy) due to the lack of natural resources available to the average Japanese citizen pre WWII? Which has now changed drastically.

Well, you may be right, now that I think of it. *scratches his furry head* Calories can come from sugar which in turn comes from carbohydrates. A lot of anti-cancer diets talk about cutting sugar intake... Or is my logic incorrect? (Am happy to be told I'm wrong!)

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Where do you get your information that Japanese Reiki does not have levels? Are you quite sure that all Reiki delivered in Japan does not have levels?

Uh, I meant to say Levels not Levels... Rank/Socio-Political grade/status versus a specific frequency/intensity of energy that is transmitted during the process. My bad.

Actually I was taught Reiki in Japan and I underwent 3 main attunements and 6 other specific attunements.

Hajimeme****e.

Did that school teach that each level possessed a greater intensity of energy? Or was it more a matter of having accomplished one grade you are now ready for the next?

It's really amazing to watch Reiki grow in Japan, too. I'm noticing a lot of influence from Rivard's school taking root in Japan. For reasons along that line, I do not believe that Japan is any longer a valid means to validate ones practice.

I wondered if the longevity of some of the older Japanese was because of calorific restriction (this is known to extend life expectancy) due to the lack of natural resources available to the average Japanese citizen pre WWII? Which has now changed drastically.

In one of my Japanese history books I recall reading that the average Japanese citizen is now 15cm/6in taller than pre-WWII nationals. The book attributed the growth to improved nutrition.

I am in agreement with the majority - the short answer to your question is no!

My response to the opening conclusion is that we don't know yet but need to begin making observations that allow us to find the answer.

There are a number of reasons for this. The first and foremost is that Reiki is being promoted as a non-religious healing modality. If it's going to involve the healing of the physical body, results must be duplicated in a way that can be measured. The only way that will be possible is that if we can actually measure a frequency of "Reiki". I believe Dawn & Andy are either doing so or have done so but to what degree is unknown to me at this time (also if I'm wrong please correct me).

I do know through the DVD lectures of Dr. Jang, Jwing-Ming (the Understanding Qigong volumes) that medical science can now detect acupuncture points. Not surprisingly, they appear to correspond with nerve endings. That adds a new dimension not only to Traditional Chinese Medicine and related practices (such as medical Qigong) but will also influence the validity of Reiki practice in the future.

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It's really amazing to watch Reiki grow in Japan, too. I'm noticing a lot of influence from Rivard's school taking root in Japan. For reasons along that line, I do not believe that Japan is any longer a valid means to validate ones practice.

It is good to hear Rick' s school is doing so well in Japan. It is not surprising though. I Know Tom Rigler had a very successful SKHM class there as well. The Japanese love things western just like many of us love things not of our culture. If we put that we teach something Japanese, Egyptian or Orion 🙂 , it can really attract more people. The same is probably in Japan, added to the fact that the western branch of reiki is more open to all cultures, this will make it more accessible and successful.

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Patrick

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The only way that will be possible is that if we can actually measure a frequency of "Reiki". I believe Dawn & Andy are either doing so or have done so but to what degree is unknown to me at this time (also if I'm wrong please correct me).

To my knowledge Dawn (HP member: Kashikoi) and Andy (HP Member: Omega1) have done a lot of work researching the frequencies of Reiki energy although I believe this has yet to be collated and published.

If we put that we teach something Japanese, Egyptian or Orion 🙂 , it can really attract more people.

LOL. That's subtle Patrick, very subtle. 😉

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Did that school teach that each level possessed a greater intensity of energy? Or was it more a matter of having accomplished one grade you are now ready for the next?

It was not a school that I learnt Reiki from it was from my Martial Arts Mentor Yamada Sensei I was his last Uchi Deshi and so far the only one he also taught Reiki to.

All he said was he wanted me to become aware of the energy flow and learn to control and channel it before teaching me more that was the reason for the multiple attunements..

It was only that when back in the UK I subsiquently read some books on Reiki that I learnt about the 'levels' etc... but this was a long while ago and now Reiki is a lot more prevalent...

OH I am also wondering what is the Orion connection?? and what is SKHM??

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The Orion connection you can find out about on this thread:

And, loosely put, SKHM is the energy rediscovered by Patrick himself whilst spending a night in the Great Pyramid in egypt which later has had names like Seichim and Sekhem.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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