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(@uclanguy)
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Here is some interesting information from the CSP website. It makes interesting reading (though lots of it). What are your thoughts?

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(@uclanguy)
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I quite like the statement by Nina Leonfellner about 'lying to the public' hmmmmm

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(@biggazfromlincoln)
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very interesting reading which supports what we in the sports therapy industry have been saying for years.
I have seen first hand from both sides of the treatment couch how inneffective and time limited the NHS physios have become, again ot the fault of the therapists more to do with the financial managers
not suprising but scary that many CSP members have thought this for so long yet nothing has been done to redress the situation.

I am personally glad that I left my Physio degree course due to financial constraints for mature students. and trained as a soft tissue specialist in the sports therapy industry to complement my fitness industry background
BGFL

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(@luckyg)
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the medical world needs an evidence base for everything which is why overall it no longer works.

Like physio, chiropractic is the same with not a great deal of emphasis placed on soft tissue work. I studied chiropractic for 3 years but left the course. Luckily in first year I did a separate massage diploma at a local college and then progressed to a sports massage diploma and i am now a full time therapist and get great results with injuries.

I am still in touch with some of my old classmates who are now practicing chiros and some of my extended family members are physios. None of them do soft tissue work.

Madness!

Some physios do appreciate soft tissue work and rightly so.

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stephen jeffrey
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Thanks for this insight Uclanguy.

Kinda explains why the conscientious physio's are filling up the majority of spaces on the massage courses I have done this year.

NHS Pysio's, to use it or lose it ? they have'nt got the time !

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amandaclegg
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This is so interesting. As a massage therapist I quite often take referrals from a private physio in our group of local therapists, and wish there was more opportunity to work together. Our view (our Therapists' Group) is that yes - the massage therapists cannot diagnose, but the physios can, but economically, as their hourly rate is much higher than we can command, it makes sense for a physio/chiro to pass on the ESSENTIAL soft tissue work, with comments and instructions (sometimes just via the referred client, sometimes we converse (with the clients' permission)).

What is the point of putting the skeletal frame right, without helping the soft tissue to realign and support it?

It seems one of the other main reasons for the failure in many parts of the NHS system (apart from the huge issue about evidence-base dicussed above) is the total lack of proper holistic approach and everyone working as a team, instead of throwing up inviolable professional boundaries where anyone outside of your particular fence is an enemy! (acutally, sadly this applies to many complementary therapists as well.)

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