NLP on HP

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HI Venetian

Great questions - one of the things I really like about NLP is the breadth os use it has - as you mentioned it can be used in a therpeutic context - where the practitoner would use their NLP skills to discover the root of the problems for example, it can also be used in more of a coaching context which could be fixing and rmoving blockages and also assisting people to move to the next level - so increasing success already present....and it can be used in presenting, meetings and so much more

In my understanding NLP is like a manual for the brain - I feel we are given these really amazing things called a brain but not necessarily taught how to use it and how to use it to get the best out of ourselves - so yes it is for personal development and also for use with others in many contexts - in every context I woudl say

Hope this makes sense 😉

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An off-shoot question of no practical interest: I have a psych degree and once could map the brain. Two of us present just didn't have time to ask, but were wondering, if the eye movements of NLP would correspond, or are known to, with areas of the brain (auditory, visual, etc). Well, I guess I can work that out for myself.

V

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Hello V. You asked for threads on NLP. One member came to mind, who used to post quite a lot, but has not done so for about a year. Pity, that, I used to enjoy his posts.

If you take a look via this link, you'll find posts by Jonathan across the board. I believe the length of the red lines under the titles indicate the relevance, so probably the first few are the ones to go for.

[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/searchpro.asp?phrase=NLP&author=Jonathan&forumid=ALL&topicreply=both&message=both&timeframe=%3E&timefilter=0&language=single&top=300&criteria=AND&minRank=0&sortMethod=r&submitbutton=+OK ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/searchpro.asp?phrase=NLP&author=Jonathan&forumid=ALL&topicreply=both&message=both&timeframe=%3E&timefilter=0&language=single&top=300&criteria=AND&minRank=0&sortMethod=r&submitbutton=+OK[/link]+

You'll also find some NLP in the Life Coaching forum, if you search there without specifying an author. However, in many threads the discussion was more on the lines of comparisons between NLP and Life Coaching, so possibly less likely to be what you want.

On a lighter note, when I first taught drumming, I was once driven nearly dotty by astudent who simply WOULD NOT look at my hands and copy me, but chose instead to stare out of the window. I then realised her way of learning the rhythm was totally auditory and yes, she did "get it" ... her way! 😀

Laura.

PS: Sorry, the link has bent the thread out of shape! I don't know a way of making it shorter. [&o]

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Thanks, Laura, the linkmaster,;)

Will certainly look that up.

V

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Hi venetain - yes the eye accesing patterns link into the brain - so when we look up we are accesing the visual cortex of the brain 😉

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Hi V,

I use some NLP techniques whilst treating people using EFT. It's very good for watching the client whilst they describe their issues.

Yes the eye accessing cues do relate to the areas of the brain for most people (there's an area of Spain where it doesn't seem the same as other people, don't know why that is?)

I also have a friend who uses NLP as a standalone therapy.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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I heard that about spain - I wonder why that is 😉

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How about online resources for learning NLP, or even discussing it? (When I say 'learning' I don't mean any expensive paid-for course as my interest is more casual than that right now.) Am simply interested in finding out / learning more. So far I have Laura's links (sounds the neat title for a webpage!) and books. Re books I actually had two on my shelves, unread, and am getting two more. I did get good advice on which, I'd say.

V

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am happy to be part of a discussion 😉

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Great. But it'll not be today I look up other links re NLP here, and I'll read a bit first too, see what I, in any case, have to discuss. But in particular, there's not much point until I've looked at existing threads! 😉

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Laura the linkmaster ha ha ha LOL 😀

(I'd already typed this prior to logging in, but since it's in response to yours earlier re online learning, I'll post it anyway.)

I thought I'd have a quick look and see what businessballs had to offer on NLP, since I've previously found it an excellent resource. And lo, there's a free training introduction, NLP principles and techniques guide which may suit, or if too basic for you, try having a few words with my good friend Mr Google re online learning.

[link= http://www.businessballs.com/nlpneuro-linguisticprogramming.htm ]http://www.businessballs.com/nlpneuro-linguisticprogramming.htm[/link]

(Since you referred to them in another thread … If you click on the "Click here" at the top of the page, you'll get to the acronyms … with a warning as to some of the content … but his descriptions of some of the origins and uses are truly tear-jerking, of the LOL variety. Seriously time-wasting – and I didn't even get to the end of the A's!)

Also perhaps have a look at [link= http://www.saladltd.co.uk/index.html ]http://www.saladltd.co.uk/index.html[/link]
who has a very comprehensive links page to many NLP sites, and others.

A general comment: No offence is intended to any NLP HP'ers, past or present, by my selection of the earlier posts of just one member of HP – he just popped into my head for the reasons already given.

Enjoy your reading! 🙂

L the L 😉

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Thanks, Laura. Yep - thanks anyway, but I can see why the "free introduction" is - free. ;)Would anyone dare charge for a 1-page article? 😀

The books I have or will are over 400 pages, so I reckon books'll do. As best that can be done as an outsider. But again, we found yesterday that you can hardly really get into this without interaction with people.

V

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Great - let me know when you want to start discussion - havea great day!

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ORIGINAL: venetian

Thanks, Laura. Yep - thanks anyway, but I can see why the "free introduction" is - free. ;)Would anyone dare charge for a 1-page article? 😀

The books I have or will are over 400 pages, so I reckon books'll do. As best that can be done as an outsider. But again, we found yesterday that you can hardly really get into this without interaction with people.

V

Well, I did say itcould be toobasic for your requirements ... but it might be ideal for someone else who justwants a brief intro. You never know who's looking in! 🙂

Would you care to share your book list?

Laura.

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I've ordered 2 more books so I'll have a few to get through though time may be limited and it may not happen that fast.

I can see that NLP really does have multi-faceted uses. The guy at weekend commented a bit wryly that in America this kind of thing seems so focussed on How To Make Money etc., whereas it appears his own background is in community development and altruistically helping people to get on such as in meetings (though he's paid for it of course).

My personal interest would be that I've had a lifelong passion for 'the spiritual Path'. And of course there are many such paths. I've sampled quite a few as I was in an esoteric school which encouraged much eclecticism. For some people, their chosen spiritual path works fine - whether it's raja yoga, a Western tradition, Catholic mysticism, you name it. But for others, whereas it's their chosen path and probably is indeed the best path for them, everything that path has to offer to them seems to still lack something they need. Right now I'm thinking particularly about those who can be instantly mystical but don't have rounded-out or 'holistic' lives, maybe because they just can't make money, or they can't master some 'mundane' aspect of themselves such as weight. The list goes on.

But I've encountered this so often that my interest is in exploring a bit to see how useful NLP can be to those who are spiritually inclined. Archetypically you might say they have their head in the clouds. And so things they could well use are missing down here in the physical. Actually, I know many devoted, spiritual Americans and most seem to do fine in the physical - maybe it's the culture - but at least in the UKthese areas of 'lack' occur over and over again. In the past (and future) I've done regular meetings on spiritual matters of a practical sort - let's actually get it done sort- but it's refreshingly rare when someone new walks in the door in the UK who has a successful business or career, say, or is great in practical meetings, but still has a deep and genuine inteerest in spirituality or mysticism. Usually my eyes role up into some NLP-significant part of my head and one thinks, "Here's another one!" (though they are as precious as anyone elsse of course) - can't focus, can't keep a decent job, can't plan action and carry it through. And I'm far from perfect in some of these things also.

Mind you, the 'can't get things done' type are also, and here's the conundrum, the type who probably wouldn't do it if you said "Do a course on NLP". [&:]It's absolutely not my way to be prescriptive. On spiritual matters I just give people tools, etc. You don't give a list or give orders do you? But a recent chap asked me straight out on two occasions "What do I need to do? What wold you say I should do?" So I took the time to tell him and gave as much explanation re why as I could. He did none of it!

So I don't know how much time I'll have to go deep into NLP, though it might go along with how useful I find it is! - but this is where I'm coming from. To anchor people committed to a spiritual life into not being so impractical that they can't affrod to travel or pay for the courses they need and want anyway!.

Venetian

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Hi Laura,

My chosen book list?

One which is certainly NLP and that's "NLP Workbook" by Joseph O'Connor.

TBH I'm not sure if Anthony Robbins is considered totally NLP and probably not, but he brings it in a lot, so his "Unlimited Power" and "Awaken The Giant Within", etc.

V xx

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The Joseph O'Connor book is the one I bought as a workbook for a course on Communication Skills - largely NLP based - a few years ago, and run by my then local WEA.

Your post above to CHegarty make me smile ... wryly, as in yes, you're so right! 😉

I really hesitate in putting up any more links, but out of curiousity I googled "spiritual NLP" - interesting in itself - and discovered there's a conference in Glastonbury in June, although the page is currently under construction:

[link= http://www.nlpdevelopment.org.uk/Conf_2006_June/Conf_Home.asp ]http://www.nlpdevelopment.org.uk/Conf_2006_June/Conf_Home.asp[/link]

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Laura.

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I love the eye accessing man on this site.

[link= http://nlp-practitioners.com/interactive/eye-access.htm ]http://nlp-practitioners.com/interactive/eye-access.htm[/link]

Love & Light
NLP practioner
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I like it 😉

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There is a huge aspect of NLP which touches on the spiritual side, if you review Robert Dilt logical levels. I'm going to do my NLP trainer training in a couple of months, and I'd love to hear from more therapy back ground folk who would like to learn more. There are excellent applications in therapy. I've just started to arrange a one day course for therapists. Opening the door to the world of NLP is like stepping into a whole parallel reality.

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Hi everyone,

Here's a couple of websites you might find useful indiscovering more about NLP:

Michael Neill's site [link= http://www.geniuscatalyst.com ]www.geniuscatalyst.com[/link] has a forum which includes an NLP section. Plenty of interesting, friendly people posting - mostly those (such as myself) who trained with Michael, Richard Bandler and Paul McKenna and are NLP Practitioners or Master Practitioners.

And [link= http://www.nlpcoachingarticles.com ]www.nlpcoachingarticles.com[/link] does what it says on the tin (I will declare an interest - I'm the site editor). Articles vary in the intended audience and are a great way of getting a feel for NLP. If anyone would like to know any more, continue the thread or PM me 🙂

Much love,
Ian

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Thanks Ian. Personally I'm tied up until after Easter but hope to look more at your links then. (The article on The Present Moment in the second link: couldn't agree more and it's a basic spiritual technique in most (all?) religions at the mystical level of practice: "Be Here Now".)

Venetian