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killchar
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A compelling article from one of the authors of "Marijuana, the Forbidden Medicine."

How do you feel about the illegal status of Marijuana?
Do you feel it should be legalized, and why or why not?
And if so, do you feel it should be regulated as prescription drugs are regulated, or taxed and sold as alcoholic beverages are, or simply legal and available as coffee is?
Should people be allowed to grow it themselves?

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holisticdee
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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

hi killchar

i do believe cannabis should be legalised.but there should be an age limit set,like alcohol-but where and how that can be set is,like the alcohol limit,is another question:.....you will get underage-smokers of weed like we have for years,had underage drinkers and tobacco smokers,abusing the legalisation,but i think that is probably the case with anything, a rule or restriction is placed on.....over the speed limit drivers,drink drivers,etc.....

i have known someone for many years,that has MS.and she believes that if she didnt,smoke or drink marijuana,she would honestly of took her own life by now,(it is the only thing,that really helps her pain),she told me.
i have known people over the years,who have smoked weed and drove their cars....and i agree with the video on your other post,it does make them more careful,concentrate more,just more aware of the spped they are driving at!...also same known people,i have known them drive whilst having had 2 small beers,and their driving has erratically changed,almost as if they have no fear,are invinsible,and the 'cock of the road',so to speak.more speed limits broken,more loud music on the stereo.....(they feel they must have,when had a few drinks),so no wonder they cause and are involved in more accidents...as they are not aware and alcohol lessens your hearing somewhat also.,never mind the stereo.

i do believe as an herbal remedy it has to be looked into strongly,as there are many people,who are suffering and have waiting to be legal for a long time.

just a bit i wanted to add.
D.x

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killchar
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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Thanks for your reply, HolisticDee:) I hope others will put their 2 cents in as well, I'd like to break the taboo on this topic!!!

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Hiya Killchar.I believe in the freedom of choice......and try to follow the " Wiccan Rede " "If it harms none , do what ye will ". If its deemed illegal by the Government, that takes away our freedom of choice , legally .........I'll Sit on the fence this time, as I've been through rehab, and to be quite honest , just giving up smoking was one of the biggest challenges I have ever endured. Good luck on your quest to legalise Cannabis ....you might need it.

Blessings

Oakapple

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killchar
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LONDON (AFP) - A 68-year-old woman who cooks with cannabis to ease her depression, aches and pains walked free from court Wednesday after being convicted of growing and possessing the drug.

Lets just start by legalizing it for our seniors. Poor lady!

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killchar
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been a busy day for cannabis in the news! Here's a video I just got:

[DLMURL] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8841684504932223081&q=cannabis [/DLMURL]

I thought it was very interesting, and informative. Apparently, whether you've used cannabis in your lifetime or not, we all have cannaboid receptors in our bodies. They show a handful of patients with varying symptoms, and of varying ages. I was most touched by the children who were undergoing cancer treatments and suffered from severe nausea and vomiting. The cannabis completely cured them of the nausea and vomiting. I wish I could have given some to grandmother when she was dying in such horrible pain.

Does anyone know why it's illegal? I've only ever seen ridiculous propaganda saying marijuana makes you want to commit crimes, vulgar sexual acts, and go insane. And of course I've heard that it affects your memory...can't remember where I heard that though 😉

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

hi killchar

cannabis is a subject very close to my heart
let me explain

Iam an arthritis sufferer aged 42 & possibly owe my life to it

I diagnosed very early at the age of 25, I had my first scan, I was suffering from acute depression at the time...
Oesteo, Rhumatoid & Inflammatory arthritis they called it after the arthroscopy on my left knee...
I'd never been a moaner & I just sunk further into depression & the bottle.

I lost my house
my car
my wife twice

fortunately, my wife loved me enough to see that it was a medical condition & the love of my life is still here by my side, after everything I've put her through...
my rock!

The drugs I'd been taking for my arthritis in all these years had taken their toll...
ibuprofen had rotted my stomach lining away
celoxib & viiox were withdrawn from the marketplace

so I started surfing the net...
I started smoking cannabis again, last time as a teenager.... & learned to grow my own (therefore insuring quality, saving me a fortune& I needed a reliable source, this was to be my medicine...)
I made a concious decision springbank holiday 4yrs ago to stop drinking & went cold-turkey
November last year, I stop smoking tobacco altogether!!
All usual forms of pain relief are no longer necessary &I rely on cannabis for my pain relief 100%

I'm 42
I'm not a hippy
I don't want to be a lawbreaker
now there is a legal alternative, SATIVEX

that's pretty much my story up until I asked my GP for Sativex 18 months ago & I'm still fighting that one.
I've been bullied, lied to & spurned by the medical profession & the PCT in my areaall because I want a drug that has been based on cannabis.

Oh & killchar
the best reading on cannabis prohibition was written by an old internet friend, who sadly passed away this year. He was the former operational head of Scotland Yard's Drug Squad, Mr Eddie Ellison[link= http://eddie.gn.apc.org/index.php?pID=1 ]http://eddie.gn.apc.org/index.php?pID=1[/link]

He may've been an officer, but he was a gentleman first

dikki

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Im an addiction worker and I did some study on other countries ways of managing their drug problem when I was at uni. I dont think it should be legalised, no, decriminalised maybe.
There is a big difference between total legalisation and de facto criminalisation as exists in ther Netherlands.
Cannabis and its consumption over there is regulated and controlled by the police, they have taken cannabis out of the equation to concentrate on dealing with people peddling hard drugs.
They are also in touch with 95 per cent of their addict population.
I dont agree that driving with substances in your system makes you a more cautious and careful driver and I also think we need to be really careful when saying better stoned at the wheel than drunk, in that case what we need to do is tackle attitudes to drink driving.
Be aware that cannabis is a depressant and while personally I dont think it causes mental health problems, I do believe that if someone was predisposed to having a mental health issue, cannabis and prolonged use of it could bring on an early onset, anything that interferes with the chemical make up of your brain over a long period of time isnt good.

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

ORIGINAL: crystaltherapy

I dont agree that driving with substances in your system makes you a more cautious and careful driver and I also think we need to be really careful when saying better stoned at the wheel than drunk, in that case what we need to do is tackle attitudes to drink driving.
Be aware that cannabis is a depressant and while personally I dont think it causes mental health problems, I do believe that if someone was predisposed to having a mental health issue, cannabis and prolonged use of it could bring on an early onset, anything that interferes with the chemical make up of your brain over a long period of time isnt good.

all fair points

i would point out however that the good doctor who first reported the link between cannabis abuse & psychosiswithdrew his claimstwo years later saying he'd have got the same results if he'd used milk abuse & tried to prove the same psychosis link

the other point of course I'm trying to put across here is...
i was prescribed 2 drugs, both passed by NICE & distributed by our nice doctors which are now on the banned & restricted lists in the UK (viiox & celoxib) for causing a huge increased risk of heart attacks & strokes & yet I am prevented from taking a drug, which even the government has made easier for you to get as they understand its urgent need by suits trying to balance their books!

accountants & insurancemen should not be running the NHS
doctors should!

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killchar
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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Tomorrow is 4-20, many recognize this as National Pot Smokers Day. In honor of this occasion I give you this interesting site:

Enjoy 🙂

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

It's great for a colitis flare up ...only problem being I can't use it when pregnant or breastfeeding (so a few years without it). I really see the difference.

There are studies out there to prove it works on IBD and how, apparently they are working on a cannabis based drug now.

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

I do not believe that smoking any sort of weed can be good for you as practice of drawing smoke into your lungs is a completely unnatural thing to do anyway. It is only the individuals that are hooked on the effects of Cannabis and other drugs that affect the brain that are fighting for it to be legalized. Do not take any drug that is unnatural and especially do not take anything that changes the way you percieve the world as your brain needs to analyse what is going wrong with your body in order to self heal. Any blockages to the natural thought process will have an affect on the time it takes to heal other problems in the body. I base this statement on pure logic and reasoning and I know for a fact that if there is any mental health discrepencies in the family (however far you trace it back to in your ancestry) therewill be a detrimental effect on your mental well being if you smoke cannabis in particular paranoia which you will not realize yourself as your brain patters have changed so much that you will believe that you are acting / reacting in a totally normal manner when others can see a definate change in your attitude , speech and lack of alertness. Definately avoid driving if you take drugs of this type.

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Hi

Now I have not visited this site for nearly four years, I forgot my password and everything. Now my spelling is not great and I thought there was a spell check for when you type a reply, should be added for those of us who find spelling a chore.
So much has changed in the last four years. Attitudes on cannabis, definately. How many M S sufferers and Arthritics taking this herb, have paranoia ( bet I spelt that one wrong).
The mental wards full of these people with M S and Arthritis are they. Keep them in the dark and feed the **** just like mushrooms. That is what the Governments have thought all these years. We are becoming more educated (except for the spelling) we can think for ourselves. I am glad to be in contact with this site again.
Oh I was Kemana many moons ago.

Lots of love xxx

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sunanda
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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Hi Garden
Your spelling is great - no problems!

Technoman - I appreciate your point of view but IMHO it is just that - your point of view. I'm sorry to say though that it really pushes my buttons when someone says 'don't do this, don't do that' because I find this phrasing rather dictatorial.

Love
Sunanda x

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Holistic
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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

Hello technoman

..... I know for a fact that if there is any mental health discrepencies in the family (however far you trace it back to in your ancestry) there will be a detrimental effect on your mental well being if you smoke cannabis .....

If something is 'known as a fact' it's useful if you can please quote your source, eg a link to a website where this information can be seen and verified. Could you do that?

Also, I have to agree with sunanda:

Technoman - I appreciate your point of view but IMHO it is just that - your point of view. I'm sorry to say though that it really pushes my buttons when someone says 'don't do this, don't do that' because I find this phrasing rather dictatorial.

I wouldn't say my buttons are pushed exactly, but don't think it'svery niceto "should" on people 😉
Perhaps you didn't mean your post to come across that way. Agree about not driving though. 🙂

Holistic

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RE: Marijuana as an herbal remedy

i think it would be a great ider if canabis was legal.
My husband suffers with phantom pain and canabis would probly help him, but he wont try it until it becomes legal until then he is in so much pain 24/7.

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I have never taken cannabis and never would as long as it is illegal however I would like to be able to grow it and use it as a herbal supplement.

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