Naturist massage - bare issues

Well well, am I naive or some sort of weirdo?

I surprises me how many misconceptions I have, and what a lot of generalisations others make, here are a few of those.

I had never thought that people would come here looking for pictures of any sort, let alone naked bodies, are you sure that really happens? It couldn't be people are genuinely interested and perhaps hoping to find someone to massage them while naked?

I nearly always phone on the day I would like a massage, as it is not high on my list of priorities and has to fit in when I find I have some free time available, but I only ever want a massage! It hurts that because I like to book on the day, I am assumed by some to be "one of them".

I worries me not what the person doing the massage is wearing, (or not wearing come to that) but I prefer to be naked, although a small cover for my "bits" when I am face up is polite. I am most at ease when the person performing the massage is happy and comfortable with my body

I do prefer to be massaged by a female, I cannot explain why, I just feel more at ease.

I have never had an "embarrassing reaction" during a massage, I am too relaxed in any way to be excited.

If someone wants "extra" for me to be naked, I would question their motive and just not go there!

I really empathise with therapist who have to put up with all sorts of inappropriate suggestion and requests, but please don't make too many sweeping generalisations, you discount treating a lot of nice people by doing so. and people who do not turn up for appointments are probably, in the main, not people you would wish to treat anyway ( and there I go making generalisations myself ! lol)

So, am I really odd, or just too straight forward for this complex world we live in?

Naked Lunch

I always insist the masseuse is naked but I insist on keeping all my clothes on whilst I receive the massage:eek::)

Thanks for that, I can assure you that not everyone viewing this thread is looking for naked pictures. Some of us are looking to learn more about different therapies. The massage industry struggles enough as it is to seperate itself from its 'do you offer extras luv' image without comments like this. 🙁

Of course not everyone is, otherwise the moderators would have pulled this thread and others like it ages ago. But, based on how certain spammers of certain types of material try and target these types of threads (the same ones Jaez was highlighting in post#1) the moderators have a fair idea that the number of views is likely to be the spammers looking to target them or the people the spammers are expecting to view them who they want to attract. Unfortunately that's the nature of this particular business and many other businesses... there are the genuine people and the people out for the wrong reasons.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Well well, am I naive or some sort of weirdo?

😀 I doubt you are either Richard, but maybe you are in what appears to be the minority of a sincere customers that whilst not looking for 'extras' feel more comfortable with less/nothing on and minimal/no draping.

I had never thought that people would come here looking for pictures of any sort, let alone naked bodies, are you sure that really happens? It couldn't be people are genuinely interested and perhaps hoping to find someone to massage them while naked?

I'm sure with human nature being what it is, it is probably a mixture of both, it can take time to find just what you are looking for, although as can be seen from many posts on here, sometimes people think you have ulterior motives, or are trying to appear genuine whilst really seeking something more than just a massage. It's all down to human nature I'm afraid.

I nearly always phone on the day I would like a massage, as it is not high on my list of priorities and has to fit in when I find I have some free time available, but I only ever want a massage! It hurts that because I like to book on the day, I am assumed by some to be "one of them".

Frustrating isn't it, unless you travel extensively in your job, then maybe you will need to do what I did and search for genuine naturist therapists near you. In the same way people will 'vet' you when you call, you will need to 'vet' them by reading their website carefully to make sure they are not calling themselves a naturist masseuse when really they are not a professionally trained masseuse, but someone who caters for the 'do you do extras' type of client.

If you can find a local and genuine professional naturist masseuse, then you might have to book your first appointment in advance, commit to the booking and then once your genuine status has been established you can explain that it's not always possible for you to book in advance and what the options are of booking on the day.

I worries me not what the person doing the massage is wearing, (or not wearing come to that) but I prefer to be naked, although a small cover for my "bits" when I am face up is polite. I am most at ease when the person performing the massage is happy and comfortable with my body

It doesn't bother me what the masseuse is wearing and whether a cover is placed over my 'bits' or not is used wouldn't worry me either way.
However, strange as it may sound, I do feel more comfortable when receiving a naturist massage where both the masseuse and I are naked. It is most important that you are comfortable with the state of covers used and what the masseuse wears or doesn't, as well as the masseuse also being comfortable with these points too.

I suspect that is what you meant by the last line of the above part of your replay that I have quoted and replied to?

I do prefer to be massaged by a female, I cannot explain why, I just feel more at ease.

I too feel the same way. I have had full body massages from masseuses and masseurs (only when draped) and so know from experience that I feel more relaxed and at ease when being treated my a masseuse.
The only explanation that I can offer is that; maybe its a subconscious thing due to the intimate nature of a naturist massage and that the majority of men are probably not that comfortable about putting themselves into an intimate situation with another man.

I have never had an "embarrassing reaction" during a massage, I am too relaxed in any way to be excited.

I've never been embarrassed during any of my massages in all the years I've been having them and I've never been excited as that's not what I have a massage for; neither I suspect do you.
The non naturist masseuse I've been seeing for almost two years, provides a very thorough massage that treats everywhere from top to toe, except my 'bits'. The treatment includes the stomach, buttocks and inner thighs and when laying on my back and having my abductors (inner thigh muscles) treated fully, I have sometimes been aware that a mild 'reaction' has taken place, it's not exciting and not the experience that I am seeking; it is just an unavoidable reaction.
But, when I first visited the naturist masseuse who I now see once a month for a massage, she explained that while she would not be massaging my 'bits', that if I was happy to receive a complete massage that it will almost certainly be more extensive than any other professional massage that I might have had before and that it is not uncommon for mild or even significant arousal to take place. She explained that it may or may not take place and whether it takes place or not can very from client to client and even from one massage to another for the same client. She did say that if at any time I felt uncomfortable that I should say and that she would either stop or be less thorough. I was little surprised when she massaged my inner thighs and stomach that there was occasional contact, from what must have been the back of her fingers, as she massaged to the very top of my inner thighs and used effleurage movements across the very lowest parts of my abdomen. But, after the initial couple of contacts that happened, it was obvious that the massage she was giving was purely being as extensive and relaxing as it could be. The fact that my 'bits' occasionally got in the way, was unavoidable. As she explained before the massage, women don't have anything down there that gets in the way, but just because I have 'bits' it would not stop her from giving me the most extensive massage possible, unless I felt uncomfortable with it.
I have never been anything other than relaxed throughout the massages I have had from her, but I suppose because of the very extensive nature of the massage that she gives, there has been some arousal that I'm never aware of until I sit up after the treatment has finished and I have never felt she has been anything other than professional, thorough yes, but always professional. Her registrations with several recognised professional massage bodies and the exemplary massage techniques show her to be a professional masseuse and not someone seeking to treat those seeking 'extras'. I don't want 'extras', I have not been offered any and I will not be asking for them. I feel very fortunate to have found what I consider to be the most relaxing and extensive professional massage carried out by a trained masseuse and not a parlour girl pretending to be a masseuse.

If someone wants "extra" for me to be naked, I would question their motive and just not go there!

Ditto!

I really empathise with therapist who have to put up with all sorts of inappropriate suggestion and requests, but please don't make too many sweeping generalisations, you discount treating a lot of nice people by doing so. and people who do not turn up for appointments are probably, in the main, not people you would wish to treat anyway ( and there I go making generalisations myself ! lol)

😀 see how easy it is to make a sweeping assumption 😀

So, am I really odd, or just too straight forward for this complex world we live in?

Who knows, maybe too straight forward, but I wouldn't want to assume anything :p

i am a fully qualified holistic therapist and a sports injury massage therapist. also a naturist. i have never been approached for a naturist massage but would always be willing to do so seeing as i am one.i live in north west kent and can be contacted on 07594 020072. i am fully mobile and visit homes

Nude massage: recommendation

I went to this guy in Edinburgh. He was incredible!:

Jack,

Yes, this is disgusting statistics. Prostitution seams to grow and uses massage as a ‘holistic’ treatment for perv clients.
I cannot imagine me as a client to go for massage with my back pain and knowing that my therapist did something stupid with client before me.

My personal opinion;
Professional bodies and police must help with this issue. But 1st - our professional bodies want only our fees and etc, and 2nd - police can do nothing

In my clinic I have a black list, list of persons that requested happy endings of other stupidity and each time I check requests and kindly saying no to the persons from my black list.
Some of them using several names and several phone numbers and emails.

In any way, our professional bodies suppose to protect us and make image of massage therapy better, but they will never do this and never do this. Really shame.

All our trainings teach us about safety! But this is only on the paper. When therapist begins to work , he/she needs to understand that his/her safety only in his/her hands and they cannot be fully proud with profession.

About your questions;
Arousals can happen, just ignore. For normal client it is also stressful situation
Naturism is not a massage, so if therapist thinks that he can do this, I can not judge. Me personally never will do this.
How to recognise : simply though talk. Prior massage I always explain what will happen. Answer questions and if the client do not like something or changed mind - he knows where is exit.

My priority is result and professionalism. And safety for all my clients. Including healthy issues.

Looking over the numerous naturist massage posts I thought it may be worth trying to bring some themes together. The topic is obviously popular.

The following had large numbers of views:
17732 men and massage ... oh yes, and a bit about being naked!
8119 Swedish Massage and buttocks!
6735 naturist massage
5928 Tantric Massage
5847 naturist massage therapist
4414 breasts
2731 massage and nudity
1952 Naturist Massage - Comments Please
1048 naturist massage swap in lancashire

The general points seem to be that Some people like to:

1) be nicely covered or have their clients nicely covered
(if that's you then read no further)

2) receive a massage without underwear

3) receive a massage with no draping

4) have their buttocks included in the massage because
those muscles are some of the largest and most powerful
and need treatment as do the others.

5) have their breasts included in the massage as it is good for
drainage etc

6) have their abdomen included in the massage

7) receive or give the lomi lomi style of massage that includes long
strokes to unite areas of the body and give deeper relaxation

8) receive/give a massage in a truly naturist environment where the
therapist is a naturist too.

There is concern that a naturist massage

9) can make it more difficult to deal with incidental arousal
which would normally be covered over and ignored

10) can be requested when the client has a more sexual motive in mind

11) can be spoilt when parts of the therapist touch the client
(especially if like wet fish)

I think a good way forward in this group would be for those who do not wish to be involved in naturist massage to ignore this post and leave ....

....and for the remainder of us to consider:

A) How a naturist massage differs form a draped massage in terms of routines etc
(I recently had such a massage at a naturist meeting and the therapist missed out the abomen, chest and buttocks as though I were draped and wearing big pants!)

B) How significant it is for the therapist to be naturist too

c) How to adjust the environment such as temperature etc

D) How to deal with arousal (male and female)

E) Attitudes to naturist massage in other countries (any experiences)

F) How to recognise a naturist booking from a one where the client has other motives

G) How to arrange some swaps with posters/colleagues of similar outlook

Hope this provides some food for thought

jaez