Homeopathy - Tissue Salts/Cell Salts

Hi Janet,
Without boring you with an impossibly long post, it's quite hard to explain cell salts! But basically, their use was developed many years ago by a doctor (Dr Schuessler) who believed that there are only twelve minerals relevant to the physical body. The cell,or tissue salts, are based on these. They are prepared as other homeopathic remedies and used in a very low potency and more frequently, than other remedies prescribed by a homeopath. They are mainly used to address symptoms purely on a physical level rather than chronic mental or emotional problems. Homeopaths vary in their tendency to use them; many prefer to look at the wider picture presented by the patient and prescribe accordingly.

It is thought that with any homeopathic remedy, it's potency (strength) can be increased by placing a pill in water and stir vigorously between doses. Again, opinions on this vary, however, as tissue salts are intended to be used in a low strength, I think they would rarely be used in this way.
Many of the tissue salts may be available over the counter and could be self prescribed cautiously. There are several good books about them. e.g. 'Homeopathic Cell Salt Remedies' by Nigel Lennon and Lionel Rolfe. (Clearly and simply set out, listing conditions and appropriate remedies).
HTH Hom

So you wouldn't dissolve them in water. I've seen on a website a company selling them in tincture form and they have about 4 remedies in one bottle and the dose seems to always be 6x.

So can you take these on a daily basis or should it be just when you feel you need them and do they give you aggravations like homeopathic ordinary remedies.

Janet, I can't speak for the company and what they're doing but generally , if you're taking remedies without consulting a homeopath (and I'd include tissue salts in this), it's best to take them for only a short period of time- a week or even days- and then assess the response. Yes, you could possibly 'aggravate' on them, even a 6x. Personally, I wouldn't advise long term use without professional advice from someone who's taken your case homeopathically.It's not about side effects (as such, there are none) but you do need to know how to apply the remedies appropriately to get best effect. (Hence homeopaths train for 4 years!) Hom

Always been curious about them and I've read where people take them on a daily basis and swear by them.

I've seen some in the shops that have a few remedies in one tablet - how safe is that and for someone like me - it's a bit like playing with fire when I've just had one of the worst aggravations from lachesis (prescribed by my homeopath)!

Hom

What's your opinion of Homaccord remedies?

Janet-not heard of homaccord remedies- can you tell me about them?! And yes, the combined remedies aren't all good news, although in reality I reckon a lot of people that buy them will unfortunately, actually need a different remedy anyway, and so won't have any aggravation from them (they might not have much change to their symptoms either!). An aggravation i.e. short and temporary worsening of an existing symptom, can only really occur if the remedy is homeopathic to you.
Good luck with the Lachesis! Hom

Hom

Do a search on the internet for "Homaccord" and you will find info on them.

With regard to lachesis - it brought out things that I hadn't had before - was that the sign of a good remedy or bad - all I know is I felt terrible.

PS

I actually lost 3 days work because of taking lachesis!

Hi Janet, Sorry to hear you've had an awful time! Remedies only rebalance energy- much as a piano tuner tunes a piano and aren't generally associated with 'new' symptoms. I think that perhaps you should go over it all with your homeopath, if things have been that bad. Was Lachesis a 'good' remedy- well I suppose that depends on how you feel a few weeks down the line.
I'm going to have a look at the homaccord info online now. Hom

Janet- I think the homaccord remedies are an american company?I don't now anything about them. Some are sold as combinations of remedies. Well, it's not the way that homeopaths- at least in the uk- tend to prescribe, but each to their own, I guess. Hom

Not sure about the lachesis - waiting to see homeopath when he returns next week - lachesis for peri meno/meno brought me out in hot flushes and sweats during the night with the racy heart - something I wasn't having before so I will definitely not take it again - I had the racy heart then it went the other way where it felt it wasn't beating almost like it had stopped - very scary.

With regard to the Homaccord remedies - an alternative practitioner who I've used before for Bio Magnetic therapy sometimes uses these along with drainage drops as she made up a bottle of nux vom with berberis in it last year. Know nux vom is quit good but I'm not sure why or what berberis is?

Janet, Berberis, also known as barberry, is a plant and is used herbally I believe, as well as in a homeopathic remedy. Homeopathically, its indications are really too wide to be able to describe on here but it can be used for people with kidney or gall stones amongst many other complaints. I've no idea why it would've been given I'm afraid, and not sure why it would be combined with nux vom! Hom

Think she uses them as drainage drops - what's your view on these?

Depends what you mean by drainage drops. Sorry I can't be very helpful but I practise homeopathy very simply. I only prescribe remedies in the form of pills and only on the principle of 'like curing like'. I don't give out any other liquids/tinctures/drops/combination remedies. etc. I know there are practitioners that do but it's not what I and many other homeopaths have been trained, or choose, to do.
I'm not saying that any variations to the purer, classical homeopathy aren't helpful or healing but I just can't comment on them. You have every right to ask any (prospective) therapist the basis for their prescribing- maybe the person giving the drainage drops could explain to you what they are? I'd also be intrigued to know! Hom

Was just curious about all the different ways homeopathy can be presented - hence the questions and was one way any better or worse than the other and did one carry more side effects than the other.

Janet, I think anyone that's a registered homeopath would say that there is esentially one way to practise classical homeopathy and that is to use homeopathic remedies on the basis of like curing like.i.e. matching the energy state of the person at that time to that of the remedy substance.

This does beg the question of what's happening when therapists (who maybe aren't registered homeopaths?) appear to be using the remedies differently. I do understand where you're coming from with your questions but if it was me, I'd ask the therapist involved.
In fact I'd go further than that, and say that imo, if we aren't able to have that sort of conversation with our therapist, he/she is maybe not the therapist for us. I'd be mortified if I thought that any of my patients couldn't ask me anything they wanted to about their treatment, not least because I'd see it as a reflection on the rapport between us. As homeopathy is absolutely dependant on the homeopath being able to understand the patient, what chance is there of that, if the patient can't speak his mind and express himself. But anyway, I'd extend that need for rapport to all therapies as a general point. HTH Hom

I was just curious to know how these worked and were they safe. I didn't understand the fact that if you can aggravate from taking one dose of a 6c remedy - how would you not aggravate putting 3 or 4 remedies in one bottle - surely that would give you a massive aggravation unless they are prepared differently. Think that's the part I don't understand how they can be safe.

I know I had an allergy bottle mixed for me by a therapist which contained - well I don't know what - few different things - and it did work very well and also whatever was in it certainly stopped my bloating but I never found what it contained and maybe felt a bit ropey after first dose but after that was always fine. But that was only one allergy remedy - I was curious to know after looking at a host of products available on another website how multiple remedies were safe - having said that they have been passed by the - is it FDA.

well, the thinking is that there's only the potential to 'aggravate' if a remedy is homeopathic to you and only one remedy can match your energy state at any time. so, if you take a combination remedy,(i.e.something that apparently contains more than one remedy) the hope is I think, that one of the remedies in it will be a match.- the others will be nothing to your body's energy- and hence do nothing. We're talking about matching energy vibration, not about material content and I know how hard it is to get your head round that! If a remedy has helped you and you want to know what it was, the therapist is obliged to tell you, if you ask. Personally, I rarely give a remedy to someone without naming it but I know therapists who have their own reasons for enligtening the patient at a later date, if asked. HTH Hom

Yes I do see what you are saying - think with the remedies the other therapist prescribed I could take it 3 times per day - which sometimes was a bonus if you were having a bad day - with homeopathy its take and wait. I'm coming to the conclusion that I need to take something on a daily basis to alleviate symptoms - unless I've not had the correct remedy yet which is perhaps more probable.

The other thing is sometimes I find that a 6c does more for me than an LM - but the LM is better in another way because I can take it every day.

And I've just had a thought - when they use multiple remedies - is it a proper homeopathic remedy or something similar in a different form? Can you understand what I mean - say for instance sometimes you can get a homeopathic remedy but there is a herbal alternative.

Hi again Janet,
This is turning into a bit of a crash course in homeopathy isn't it! I take your point re the combination remedies- are they homeopathic preparations or are they herbal supplements. Well, they should be whatever they claim to be on the packet- or whatever the therapist says they are! So for example St John's Wort can be prepared in a material form as a herbal supplement- or can be used to make a homeopathic remedy, called Hypericum (just the posh/botanical name for it).The same goes for any combination. But either way, it should be labelled accordingly- and will be used differently.
Regarding potencies, it's complex, because different ones are used according to the energy state of the person at the time. A different potency or dilution, may be given if you've got acute flu, in comparison to if you've got chronic asthma, for example. Other factors that determine potency include age,nature of complaint, energy levels, clarity of symptoms, sensitivity of patient.....I could go on and on, and it's up to the homeopath to use his skills to assess which potency is appropriate for you at that time.
I take your point that you feel you do better with a daily dose of something rather than a 'once off' dose.- it's just what some of us need sometimes. I think also that if you do have any homeopathy, you could mention that to your homeopath. He might wish to take that into account in his prescribing. Also, this brings us full circle back to something like the tissue salts, which could be taken daily- at least for a little while, and especially if the main problem is physical and chronic -where they've been found clinically, to be most useful. You could ask your homeopath what he thinks of them- he may be a therapist who likes using them. Hom

Seems like we have come full circle - thanks for the help and advice - I've always been curious about the tissue/cell salts and if they were safe to take.

So you have answered some of my queries. And maybe there's no harm in trying them to see how and what they do - but whether I will - not sure yet.

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