EFT Waste of money?

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I would say that there are lots of different people on this site, all of whom have very different opinions on every theapy under the sun.
What works for one person won't necessarily work for another.

If EFT is of interest to you, take the course.. I have carried out a taster session, it seemed to have powerful effects on other group members, personally I didn't find it beneficial at the time, but who can say it won't work in the future.

Good luck with which ever course you chose.

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EFT is Great. go and enjoy the course.

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Hi Lim!
I have only just looked into Freeway CER... well, who knows what the pro's and con's are. I do know that Gary Craig has developed EFT over many years, in a very open and honest way. I am not a certified trainer in EFT, but have delivered intoductory 1/2 dayworkshops, and found that participants got great results and loved the technique. They particularly like the simplicity, and that it worked so immediately. It's definately worth noting the support setsof DVDs by Gary which are very good indeed, and cover a wide topic range (including business issues).

Richard,
abetterlife

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Different things work for different people, but in my experience of using EFT it is a truly fantastic tool. It can be somewhat difficult to use it on your own, but some areas have EFT practice groups or introductory workshops which can be very worthwhile to join (and the effect of "group energy" on healing canbevery positive too). When done well (and the main challenge is to be very accurate in identifying and naming the issue you are working on) EFT can be astonishing.. Most failures result from being too vagueinidentifying the issue you're working on.Whenan accurate description is found, magic things do happen!

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As someone who has trained in both, here's some facts (as far as facts go!)

EFT and FREEWAY-CER started being developed at around the same time. EFT is very successful and has been promoted well by Gary Craig to give it worldwide appeal. FREEWAY-CER is also very successful but has not been promoted as widely until more recently. One of the reasons for FREEWAY-CER only coming about more recently is that Tom and Bev (the founders of the system) have spent many years researching and refining the techniques to create a system that "works and doesn't need changing" whereas EFT is one of those therapies that has evolved over the years through practitioners using it.

EFT is primarily about dealing with issues through use of the tapping routine, whereas FREEWAY-CER contains more than a tapping routine (such as breathing and techniques, ways to help the client feel calm etc). I've found EFT to be a very good therapy and have used it with many people to help them with their issues, but since doing FREEWAY-CER I've found that this (from my own short experience so far) seems to work moreeffectively and quickly. Also with the FREEWAY-CER training we were given a good background and understanding of things like the Meridian system etc. which wasn't part of EFT as Gary never claimed to understand the technicalities of such workings of humans. He is just an engineer at heart... "do this, do that, do it like that, and it works, don't ask me how exactly, but it does". With FREEWAY-CER it's more of "This is the principle of what the body is doing, and how conditions effect our meridians, and these techniques work in such and such a way to tackle each of these areas" etc.

EFT has been taught in the past so that it can be used with clients in a very flexible way, and you can change and adapt as you see fit and what works best for you. I believe more recent developments are seeing Gary implementing a more structured way of teaching and practicing so that it fits in with the (apparant) need for regulatory bodies for such therapies. With FREEWAY-CER, Tom and Bev have already set in place the structure so that the teaching is only done in a particular way and you only need to treat clients in a particular way (It works so there's no need to change it!). Each practitioner has to undertake casestudies to ensure they are practicing the procedures correctly (don't worry they're not monsterously difficult!) and each will be issued with a numbered certificate and registered with Tom and Bev as a FREEWAY-CER practitioner so any member of the public wanting treatment will know that we are all practicing to the same standards and teachings.

One key difference I can point out is that with EFT you tend to try and get to the root of issues and tackle them from there which, depending on the client and the issue can take some time and/or some chipping away at higher levels. With FREEWAY-CER you don't have to get to the root of the issue to tackle it, you can just work with a recent event for it and it can still take out the whole issue in a lot of cases.

No-one can saythat one is "better" than the other as they are working on different principles and that's like comparing two totally disperate systems, which just can't be done. Anyone who says that EFT doesn't work is lying or they've just never tried it so I wouldn't listen to those people.

Having done both, and I do know that both work, I would personally recommend doing FREEWAY-CER. I think 9 out of 11 people (sounds like a cat food advert :D) on my course had previously done EFT and I can be fairly safe in saying that all of us found FREEWAY-CER to be more to our liking.

Details of both are on [link= http://www.emofree.com ]www.emofree.com[/link] and [link= http://www.freeway-cer.com ]www.freeway-cer.com[/link]

Love and Reiki Hugs

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ORIGINAL: Masha B
When done well (and the main challenge is to be very accurate in identifying and naming the issue you are working on) EFT can be astonishing.. Most failures result from being too vagueinidentifying the issue you're working on.Whenan accurate description is found, magic things do happen!

Agreed, that applies for both EFT and FREEWAY. It is always important to be specific about the aspects of issues being worked on.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Hi Lim
I practice and use EFT regularlywith familyand clients. I use EFT combined with a number of other techniques and found it to be really beneficial. People like it because they can take it away and use it whenever they want it. It works especially well for children.
I am sure you will enjoy the course, EFTis very practical and can be used in many situations.
regards

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I do both - only just started with Freeway though, I've been using EFT for a few years with brilliant results. It is a lot more complex than EFT, it provides you with many more bits and bobs you can use during treatment to enhance the results. With Freeway, there's so much you can really only touch the surface. EFT is much more widely known.. you're more likely to get clients initially with it.

I'd say stick to EFT as your first dip into the ocean, it's a very simple tool to use - if you want to expand, go on and do your Freeway.

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Hi Lim,

HavingLearned EFT and reading the recent positive posts about Freeway , It lookslike I have made the right decision to attendDez's next Freeway course in September.I am alsopleasently surprised atthe cost of the course it seems excellent value for money.
The course contents covers much more than the EFT course and you dont have to go through various levels at additional costs to become a practitioner.

Maybe I'll see you on the course.

Hi Giles,
That was an interesting post . 9 out of 11 Eft'ers found Freeway more to there liking, Sounds to good to be true and I am even more excited about attending the course..

Love Jaz

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I can't wait either!

As for EFT, I have what I believe is the only London clinic where every therapist also does EFT. We have been open since March this year and are doing very well.

Most of our mind therapy clients ask for hypnosis, as EFT is just starting to get recognition. I can imagine Freeway will be even less well known. Even with referrals, I get asked for "that great hypnotherapy you gave (my friend)"!!

I don't think you are wasting your money learning a technique that is taking the world by storm!

If you are doing EFT for work as a self-employed person, all the courses that follow you working with your first therapy are tax deductible. So you choose whether you pay the taxman or our friend Dez for Freeway, you have to pay it out anyway.

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Anyone who says that EFT doesn't work is lying or they've just never tried it so I wouldn't listen to those people.

I would say if someone says EFT didn't work on them the perhaps it was the therapist that didn't work for them!

In line with other comments about Freeway CER and EFT, I bought the Freeway CER DVD and course set about a year ago and often use certain elements of this when dealing with clients but I rarely stick to just one method...........I go where intuition tells me to and use what I feel I need to.

I've found that many times you explain what you do but it goes in one ear and out the other, they just hear 'tapping' and want to get on with so explaining to them the difference between Freeway and EFT would just complicate matter. If you want to remain dedicated to one set of therapy principles then great but you never quite know where your client will take you during their therapy journey. Therefore good therapists use every tool learnt and at their disposal to deal with whats raised and that might mean swopping from NLP, Freeway or EFT. Its very rare that I will just use EFT with a client, something might be said that I feel requires NLP and I'll use that...

I do normally explain pre-therapy that I do mix a lot of my therapies, some will involve tapping, some will involve closing their eyes and thinking about certain situations whilst we change the construct of the memory and so on, I think this is worth doing to stop the client from saying is this still EFT etc.

My advice is learn what you can, learn everything if you want to.....it only counts to becoming a much better all rounded therapist.

Good Luck.

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Some very ineresting posts here about FREEWAY-CER & EFT, Giles you gave a very good explaination and comparison of both therapies.

Whilst FREEWAY-CER is a complete system of healing FREEWAY-CER also fits in well with and works in conjunction with other forms of therapy including: Hypnotherapy; NLP; Cognitive Forms of Therapy; Psychotherapy; Counselling; and also Healing.

FREEWAY-CER comes to us from the Ancient Wisdom Teachings, adapted for modern day use, utilising ancient knowledge from over 3000 years ago. FREEWAY-CER is more than a tapping routine, it uses ancient Chi Gung methods which have been passed down from the Great Grand Masters, Ancient Ayurvedic methods for a healthy diet which are compatible for each individual's make-up.

Ancient sound healing is also used for specific organs to keep them healthy. Breath control methods for instant relaxation, advanced healing methods which have been used for centuries as well as a unique way of tapping the meridians as well as working directly on an organic level, we even have a very useful way of doing FREEWAY-CER over the phone for long distant clients who can't come to your office or clinic.

FREEWAY-CER is a complete system of healing which works on all levels of our being, during a session we help our client clear personal issues at cause, we do not just chase symptoms, past, present, and future are addressed during a session and we even have a technique that is used at the end of a session to balance and calm the system which leaves the client feeling tranquil and relaxed.

so as you can se FREEWAY-CER is clearly more than a tapping routine and as stated above blends well with other therapies.

Is EFT a waste of money????
no i is not, it has helped many thousands of people worldwide, however FREEWAY-CER IS A COMPLETE system that works on many levels of the body/mind in a balanced way.

I Used to use EFT every day in my clinic and helped many many people, however for me peronally i no longer use it since i found the effectiveness of FREEWAY-CER.

Blessings
Dez Sellars

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Thanks for all your great replies folks. I am going to take the course still, as I want to use EFT on myself aswell as clients. I also hear that it works really well with Reiki so I will practice on my Reiki clients.

I think I may do the Freeway Cer course too, maybe the one in January next year. I'll let you know Dez when I am able to book.

Thank You.

Lim.

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Hi Lim
you wil enjoyl earning EFT, however youwill love FREEWAY-CER it also works very well with reiki, Giles on here also does FREEWAY-CER and reiki and gets fantastic results working like this.

have a good one
dez

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I would never say training in a therapy is a waste of money, because they all have something to offer us. However since I began using FREEWAY-CER I have used it almost exclusively in cases where I previously used EFT. It fits well with hypnosis and other therapies and has, from my experience, a permanence to the results which I have not experienced with EFT. Once something is resolved with FREEWAY-CER it stays resolved.

Lim by all means do the EFT training and enjoy it, you will gain a lot from it, but I would suggest you do FREEWAY-CER as soon as you are able because it is simply stunning in its effectiveness.

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hi bernie
good to see you here, yes i agree with what you have said, people who have not experienced the system cant appreciate its effectiveness, i did not until i had clients i used eft with and was stuck, i used FREEWAY and it cleared,.
dez

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Thanks Dez

It's nice to be here, this seems to be a great group. Yes FREEWAY-CER is an amazing powerful and effective therapy, I was completely bowled over by it and totally replaced EFT with it, simply because it is simpler and more intuitive for the clients to use and 8 points (rather than 13) which encompass both sides of the body is so much more balanced. It is wonderful

Bernie xx

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Yes, I have to agree, I do favour the 'both sides' approach to Freeway - It's odd cause sometimes when I do EFT I use the wrist point instead of the fingers - I feel it's a bit of a catch all and have actually experimented with using the palm point used in Freeway in its place. It wasn't until I did the course that I realised it was part of the routine for Freeway. There's not a great deal to remember with basic, however I do find it hard to remember the wording. Simple yet effective approach when all is said and done. I'm looking forward to trying this on yet more of my clients andhopefully seeing some problems I've used with EFT so I can try and use the different methodologyand way of workingto seejust how different the results are.

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hi gussie
just do as you were taught and you will be amased on how quickly things change, if you need any advice on any client let me know

look forward to your feedback
dez

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Interesting comments.

AFAIK, all well-experienced EFT practitioners use both sides of the body and about 8 points. Now I'm even more intrigued. Maybe we'll be at the same one, Lim!

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Thanks Dez for the offer, will let you know if any toughies crop up..

I agree - you do only use a bit of the routine once you are used to things - Don't know about you guys but I seem to get an energy rush more and more when I do work with other clients, which seems to coincide with the point at which they say they feel a rush or some kind of intensity during a round. I remember a long whilse ago Jonathon said he had this and I didn't experience it at first as Practitioner.

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ORIGINAL: New Age London

Interesting comments.

AFAIK, all well-experienced EFT practitioners use both sides of the body and about 8 points. Now I'm even more intrigued. Maybe we'll be at the same one, Lim!

I understandwhat you are sayingbut the difference is that FREEWAY-CER is designedtowork on both sides of the body through the normal sequence.It crosses from one side to the other throughout so that it is totally balanced. Also the tapping points are different from those used in EFT. You do not miss any meridians by using the 8 point sequence, yousimply use points which cover them all with a more compact, compact and therefore very powerful, procedure.

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ORIGINAL: Dez Sellars

hi gussie
just do as you were taught and you will be amased on how quickly things change, if you need any advice on any client let me know

look forward to your feedback
dez

Can I just echo that?Without treading on Dez's toes, if he is not available and anyone needs help, I am more than willing to give advice or guidance.

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Thanks Bernie - you're a star!

Seeing as we've wholly threadjacked, Lim I wondered, when you're back from your course, how was it? Did you learn lots? I think Giles would agree the EFT course was pretty earthshattering when we did it..

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Not a problem, I love to help.

Oh dear we have sort of taken over....... sorry Lim!

I had been around EFT for about a year before I actually did the course, so already had a pretty good knowledge of how it worked. I actually did EmoTrance before EFT which I was told by the trainer was unusual. I used them almost exclusively until I did FREEWAY-CER, that actually did blow me away. My first real outing with it was at a healing fair and I was able to shift some really big emotional issues(which incidentally I would have preferred not to have in a village hall surrounded by various other therapists and people just wandering around looking) witha number of visitors to my stand in the space of half an hour each. They were astounded that these things which had been crippling them emotionally were moved so rapidly and I had the most amazing realisation of just how good this therapy actually is.

I have used FREEWAY-CER to the exclusion of EFT ever since, and interestingly my 7 year old son has watched me working on issues for myself and can sit and do the tapping sequence on himself. He already knows and appreciates the benefits of letting go of these issues before they cause problems.A sequencethat even a child can get to grips with and feel comfortable using, which makes it a perfect tool to deal with kids issues too, because it works quickly enough to avoid them becoming bored and losing interest in the process.

xx

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ORIGINAL: Gussie
Seeing as we've wholly threadjacked, Lim I wondered, when you're back from your course, how was it? Did you learn lots? I think Giles would agree the EFT course was pretty earthshattering when we did it..

Totally agree, the EFT course was brilliant. And then came FREEWAY.....

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ORIGINAL: Energylz

ORIGINAL: Gussie
Seeing as we've wholly threadjacked, Lim I wondered, when you're back from your course, how was it? Did you learn lots? I think Giles would agree the EFT course was pretty earthshattering when we did it..

Totally agree, the EFT course was brilliant. And then came FREEWAY.....

Ah well I bet Dez taught you didn't he? 😉

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ORIGINAL: Berniemorgan

Totally agree, the EFT course was brilliant. And then came FREEWAY.....

Ah well I bet Dez taught you didn't he? 😉

Well he might have done. [sm=dance.gif]
You saying your EFT course wasn't any good? Shoulda gone to Dez. hehe. 😉

Love and Reiki Hugs

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ORIGINAL: Energylz

ORIGINAL: Berniemorgan

Totally agree, the EFT course was brilliant. And then came FREEWAY.....

Ah well I bet Dez taught you didn't he? 😉

Well he might have done. [sm=dance.gif]
You saying your EFT course wasn't any good? Shoulda gone to Dez. hehe. 😉

Love and Reiki Hugs

No I'm not remotely saying that it was a good course, what I am saying is that I already had a good grounding in it before I did the course, therefore it was not that much of an eye opener for me. Shame on you Giles trying to get me into trouble with my trainers [sm=nono.gif]