Hi all I had my thyroid removed in 2011. I am on a stable dose of Thyroxine with levels in the normal range - but I am aware I don't feel quite 'right' Sadly I know its nothing my GP will take seriously.
Can anyone recommend any herbal stuff that might help me?
Hi Sally
I know exactly what you mean! For some extraordinary reason the medical profession think that replacing just T4 (with Levothyroxine - manufactured equivalent) is enough. Unfortunately the thyroid also produces T3, T2 and T1 in a cascade,plus calcitonin. SO? What about them, then? The pat answer is that if your TSH blood levels are OK then there cannot possibly be a problem :eek:. But the body doesn't work like that. Yes T4 can get converted to T3 and so on if things are working properly, but actually T4 is inert and it is T3 that does the work of regulating the metabolism.
When the thyroid is removed altogether there is little likelihood of interaction with the other hormones (T2 and T1) - which they aren't even sure of their function anyway - so they're ignored :confused:. helps regulate blood calcium levels but is considered irrelevant. That's all very well, but all these hormones are produced in the body and just because someone has deemed them irrelevant then most of us are doomed to being given inactive T4 or if very lucky, some T3. But that is only a fraction of the story.
In the old days when porcine thyroid extract (Armour thyroid) was commonly used it contains all the hormones similar to ours plus other factors. A complete package. It worked very well, but it wasn't patentable so Big Pharma set out to discredit porcine extract and eventually the NHS agreed to the new system.
Meanwhile there are thousands of us left floundering with malfunction and it is just not recognised as a problem - lack of co-factors for the converting enzyme, difficulty of the membrane gateways functioning, converting directly to Reverse T3 are all possible ways things can go wrong over and above just lack of thyroxine.
There are supplements for thyroid support available - [url]see here [/url](a highly ethical firm) - but I'd be happier knowing what is going on before recommending any of them. You can speak one of their nutritionists who may be able to help. Otherwise I'd go to someone like Dr [url]Georges Mouton[/url], Dr [url]Sarah Myhill[/url] or Dr who specialise in thyroid problems. There are also Nutritional Therapists who specialise in hormone balance.
Hi Sally
I know exactly what you mean! For some extraordinary reason the medical profession think that replacing just T4 (with Levothyroxine - manufactured equivalent) is enough. Unfortunately the thyroid also produces T3, T2 and T1 in a cascade,plus calcitonin. SO? What about them, then? The pat answer is that if your TSH blood levels are OK then there cannot possibly be a problem :eek:. But the body doesn't work like that. Yes T4 can get converted to T3 and so on if things are working properly, but actually T4 is inert and it is T3 that does the work of regulating the metabolism.
When the thyroid is removed altogether there is little likelihood of interaction with the other hormones (T2 and T1) - which they aren't even sure of their function anyway - so they're ignored :confused:. helps regulate blood calcium levels but is considered irrelevant. That's all very well, but all these hormones are produced in the body and just because someone has deemed them irrelevant then most of us are doomed to being given inactive T4 or if very lucky, some T3. But that is only a fraction of the story.
In the old days when porcine thyroid extract (Armour thyroid) was commonly used it contains all the hormones similar to ours plus other factors. A complete package. It worked very well, but it wasn't patentable so Big Pharma set out to discredit porcine extract and eventually the NHS agreed to the new system.
Meanwhile there are thousands of us left floundering with malfunction and it is just not recognised as a problem - lack of co-factors for the converting enzyme, difficulty of the membrane gateways functioning, converting directly to Reverse T3 are all possible ways things can go wrong over and above just lack of thyroxine.
There are supplements for thyroid support available - [url]see here [/url](a highly ethical firm) - but I'd be happier knowing what is going on before recommending any of them. You can speak one of their nutritionists who may be able to help. Otherwise I'd go to someone like Dr [url]Georges Mouton[/url], Dr [url]Sarah Myhill[/url] or Dr who specialise in thyroid problems. There are also Nutritional Therapists who specialise in hormone balance.
Thanks Caroline.
I know and understand the metabolism. My Parathyroid gland is luckily OK - although ti went on strike immediately after my surgery and I had to take calcium and alfacalcidol as well as levothyroxine for a time. (Trust me a low calcium makes you feel lousy!), But I also know and understand why the armour Thyroid tablets are not used. I did ask my consultant if I would need T3 supplements in future since I don't have a thyroid so have NO endogenous T4/T3. He didn't know.
My TSH levels are irrelevant as I have no thyroid to stimulate. They were kept low by a high dose of T4 initially to avoid stimulating any thyroid tissue that escaped the knife and the radioactive iodine. I am now on 125mcg daily and have been on that dose since June 2011.. Do you need to know any more?
Hi Sally
I had a chat with my acupuncturist yesterday about the possibility of treating someone who had their thyroid removed, and his opinion is that it is absolutely possible to use acupuncture to give support to the endocrine system, including the thyroid even when it is not there. He suggested finding someone through the , who is properly qualified.
Otherwise, nutritionally one should look at supporting the conversion of inert T4 to active T3 and this can be found on the site I mentioned below. [url]Mukul myrrh[/url] is very helpful to some people, as is the [url]hormone-free extract[/url]. If you are not taking a general vitamin tablet then the [url]thyro support [/url]formula is good. It depends on other things than just the thyroid (or lack of it). Do have a word with one of their nutritionists - they are dealing with your sort of queries every day and are well trained nutritional therapists. They aren't there just to plug their products (knowing some personally) they often work there to support their own practices.
Hi Sally
I had a chat with my acupuncturist yesterday about the possibility of treating someone who had their thyroid removed, and his opinion is that it is absolutely possible to use acupuncture to give support to the endocrine system, including the thyroid even when it is not there. He suggested finding someone through the , who is properly qualified.
Otherwise, nutritionally one should look at supporting the conversion of inert T4 to active T3 and this can be found on the site I mentioned below. [url]Mukul myrrh[/url] is very helpful to some people, as is the [url]hormone-free extract[/url]. If you are not taking a general vitamin tablet then the [url]thyro support [/url]formula is good. It depends on other things than just the thyroid (or lack of it). Do have a word with one of their nutritionists - they are dealing with your sort of queries every day and are well trained nutritional therapists. They aren't there just to plug their products (knowing some personally) they often work there to support their own practices.
I was hoping for something herbal to give me a lift. Acupuncture is NOT something I am interested in trying - but I am grateful for the advice. I am also toying with the idea of a kinesiolgist. I will check out the sites you have suggested - and have a think about what I need to do. Thanks for all the advice 🙂
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