Enema

RE: Enema

LOL, some people reading your post will think that you're barmy, but I was once living in California and this kind of thing was all the rage among the fitness freaks - but I never heard of tobacco or alcohol ones! Goodness.

Important to point out here that you are talking about enemas, not colonics. Enemas are much smaller or minor affairs. I've never heard that there's any problem having frequent enemas, though I don't see why anyone would want to. Even colonics, which penetrate deeply, are things some in that kind of 'health freak' scene do a course of, such as one a week for a while, to clear the colon of any bad lining built up from the muck that hasn't come out over a lifetime. But yes, if you do that you need to replace the good bacteria with either live yoghurt (eaten!!!) or acidopholous (sp? I always forget the spelling)capsules as a course.

I never actually picked up on what the benefits of coffee enemas are supposed to be. Does it stimulate a larger response? I'm no expert in this field at all, but for the life of me I can't see why anyone would want to put tobacco or - alcohol - up their back passage?

Have fun, cautiously! 😉

Venetian

RE: Enema

I think I would rather taste the wine and enjoy it rather than sample it that way don't you agree?!:D

Don't particularly fancy the coffee or tobacco offered either [:'(]

My friend experienced a colonic hydrotherapy and thought it was excellent, raved about it for ages! I'm not too sure myself..... 😮

RE: Enema

Basically, in France in the 19th century, the 'Limonadier' was employed to blow the smoke, 'limonadiers des posterieurs' is what they were collectively known as. The caffeine enema would produce an eurphoric rush. The earliest history that i can find, is that it was based on the 'Ibis' who when it fell ill would put its beak up its rectum and pick out the bits not excreted by bodily function. The Egyptians took and developed the idea.

I wrote this up on another board and an american contributer said that i must have read it in the news as an american lady in Texas Killed her partner with a sherry enema and he overdosed/was poisoned (Last month?) I orginally replied to a lady who inquired as to whether they sold 'clonic' bags to do it oneself, and i wrote all the above as i thought it wasn't possible to do it by oneself.

When a chemical is taken througth the rectum, gets into the blood system quicker (the colon walls are thin) and plus the sexual side of things. (The male G Spot) When IV drug users viens are gone or wants to rest the last vien or two, they usually get a 2ml syringe, squat and then squirt.

RE: Enema

Hello Joyce,

I'm with you on this one!

John - in my view, injecting intoxicating substances into different body orifices is poisoning oneself, just as when a person takes the same substances into the mouth. What pleasure do you get out of shooting these mixtures into your back passage? I am sorry if I sound harsh, but this type of practice strikes me as 'freaky' and not what the delicate parts of our lower bodies were meant for.

edited to add: this is a website to promote healthy lifestyles. This practice sounds anything but healthy!

Love,
Patsy.
[:o]

RE: Enema

A couple of points. One. It has occurred to me, a bit late in the day, to wonder if this is a wind-up. However I had heard of coffee enemas.

There's no sexual component or association to this. A large pharmacy in the UK will sell enema bags; the practice has various uses such as for people ill in bed, severe constipation; even a quick cure for severe diarrhea (get it all done with at once); and it clears out toxic substance that would just stay in the body without moving if people go on health fasts such as water-only fasts.

I agree with people above. Placing anything into the water is an abuse. The point of colonics and enemas is to use a neutral and pure substance (water) to cleanse one's insides, usually under unusual circumstances or as a series of colonics. If I had unlimited cash I'd still have colonics rarely as the body can usually take care of itself. They are more necessary for meat or junk food eaters as they can have stuff that's been stuck inside them for years, which depletes health.

V

RE: Enema

Hello David,

I'd like to echo your words. Enemas are medical procedures used when women are about to give birth and for chronic bowel conditions. They should only be used with pure water because of the risk of damage to the delicate linings of the organs and the displacement of bacteria, and then used only sparingly.

My view is that if one doesn't need such a procedure, to leave well alone. The flora in the bowel will work better when it's left to do its job without substances being squirted into the back passage unnecessarily.

Love,
Patsy.
[sm=confused-smiley-012.gif]

RE: Enema

I have had one done before a few years ago (water) but was aware of caffeine & wine enema's.

alcohol, tobacco and peyote is is/was used in shamanising.

There is no more pleasure doing a squat and squirt other than the solitary reasons of not finding a vien to go into (chaotic drug misusers)

i wasn't promoting drug taking.

RE: Enema

Hello John,

I am not so sure that this 'squirting' of substances in one's 'fundament' isn't tantamount to substance abuse by another method. It certainly seems so to me. I was under the impression that addictions are pleasurable to the addict, and part of that pleasure involves tasting or breathing in the drug/alcohol/coffee, etc. To directly squirt it into one's body seems to defeat the whole object of pleasure, in my view. Instead of the drug working and the addict gradually reaching his/her 'high', the substance is set to work almost immediately on entering the body.

My brother is an alcoholic, and has been for many years. His health and our nerves are a testament to that. Part of his addiction involves the craving for the taste of alcohol, and I cannot envisage my brother squirting his precious cider into his bottom to gain an 'instant high.' Likewise, my first husband was addicted to marajuana (yes, you can become addicted to it) and part of the pleasure in his case was rolling the stuff into cigarettes and the anticipation of breathing in the smoky results.

All these substance-laden enemas seem to be are kinky ways of 'getting off' and even more than that, dangerous ways of doing so. Our bodies are temples of the soul, and to abuse them like this (or in any way) degenerates the body that we have been given. Seeing the results of years of substance abuse when administered through the 'normal' methods, makes me cringe at the thought of people thinking up new ways of abusing themselves to the absolute limits.

Patsy.
[:-]

RE: Enema

Hi, i only posted up the links as the other poster thougth that i was on 'wind ups'. I dont believe that if people read things they'll want to try it out. I'd rather share and swap information.

Anyway sorry to hear about your brother. Has he tried;

Supplements are often helpful in controlling cravings, a good mineral supplement, high potency B-complex vitamins with biotin, glutamic acid (L-glutamine) and chromium picolinate (not sure of availability) Some other available supplements are formulated specifically for blood sugar support. Be aware thou that it can take for up to three days for the supplements to begin to kick in. .

Naltrexone is also prescribed as well as antabuse. A new drug has also just come onto the market called campral 'acompostrate' (sp?) It is normally prescribed up to a year after detoxing.

RE: Enema

I am not so sure that this 'squirting' of substances in one's 'fundament' isn't tantamount to substance abuse by another method. It certainly seems so to me. I was under the impression that addictions are pleasurable to the addict, and part of that pleasure involves tasting or breathing in the drug/alcohol/coffee, etc. To directly squirt it into one's body seems to defeat the whole object of pleasure, in my view. Instead of the drug working and the addict gradually reaching his/her 'high', the substance is set to work almost immediately on entering the body.

My brother is an alcoholic, and has been for many years. His health and our nerves are a testament to that. Part of his addiction involves the craving for the taste of alcohol, and I cannot envisage my brother squirting his precious cider into his bottom to gain an 'instant high.' Likewise, my first husband was addicted to marajuana (yes, you can become addicted to it) and part of the pleasure in his case was rolling the stuff into cigarettes and the anticipation of breathing in the smoky results.

Hiya Patsy-just to comment on what you wrote..Whilst Im sure that this is the case with your brother and ex, but I dont necessarily think it is so with all addicts.

I know an alcoholic and when she is strapped for cash, she buys gin and she absolutely detests the stuff. It actually makes her gag [:'(]. She is not drinking it for the taste-she is doing so to get the alcohol into her bloodstream.

My mates brother has space cakes (and on cheese on toast!) its not the rolling and smoking-its the end result he is after.

Just my thoughts.

Whilst it is true that some addicts enjoy the ritual of their addiction, I dont believe that all of them do.

Tx

RE: Enema

Ayurveda uses enaemas (basti's) as part of its detox program but i have to say i never really got involved in that side of the tretment. They didnt use toxic substances such as alcohol. coffee and tobaco. why you would want to introduce any of these substances into the bowl im not sure?
It all seems a bit extreme to me, but each to their own i guess.
best wishes val
PS i work in Radiology and i see many people each week having barium enaemas(diagnostic) and all the time i have worked there i have never seen anyone enjoy one.

RE: Enema

I have done lots of coffee enemas. Use Organic coffee. The caffine helps stimilate the liver so that it releases its toxins.

RE: Enema

thedee,

I am no expert, but I would have thought that injecting coffee into one's insides would create more toxins, not less.

Love,
Patsy.
[:-]

RE: Enema

Hello Shaz,

Yes, absolutely true. Addicts want to get their substance of choice into their bloodstream as quickly as possible. My brother enjoys, and my ex, enjoyed the 'build-up' to the administration of their substances. My brother will get his drinking glass and cider ready, and Dave used to enjoy getting his paraphernalia together. It is like watching a ritual taking place. Once they start, they go for it. Dave used to make cakes as well, and one day he made these cakes and offered one to me and my then seven-year old. When I discovered what was inside them, I went berserk. I couldn't have cared less if he ate it, smoked it or squirted it, but offering it to a child was beyond the pale.

Love,
Patsy.
xxxxx

RE: Enema

songstress,

Do you research on Coffee Enemas and detoxification. Expecially for cancer patients. Read what the Gerson Institute has to say or Dr Hulda Clark or Dr William Kelly.

RE: Enema

thedee,

I'm not convinced about this. Have you any links to the research?

Coffee contains a number of toxins, and I wouldn't be happy using it in an enema.

Patsy.
[:-]

RE: Enema

Ive heard of this b4 but only the coffee one, personally i cant see how putting something were told to avoid directly into the delicate mucus membranes of the gut will serve any purpose other than to irritate the lining of the gut and cause a colonic wash out effect. & or enhance the effects of the caffine so the hit is quicker.

Love & hugs Maria xxx

RE: Enema

Here is one link:

Taking coffee up the rear has a different effect than taking coffee orally. Again, according to research coffee enemas help with detoxification.

When my mother feels nausaous she goes and takes a coffee enema to relieve it. It helps stimulate the liver so it releases the toxins.

RE: Enema

Thedee,

The author of this work seems to think that cancer is caused by a 'simple deficiency.' This is a dangerous thing to say. Cancer is a complex illness, and not confined only to the 20th century.

I am not convinced that squirting substances that are considered unhealthy, into delicate areas of the body not designed for intake in that way, is to be recommended. However, if people want to do it, and they get benefit from it, then that is up to them. It shouldn't be advertised as a cancer cure. No wonder the author's work is suppressed.

Love,
Patsy.
[:-]

RE: Enema

On the link I quoted above, Dr Kelly does not say that coffee enemas alone are a cure for cancer. He and other like the Gerson Therapy, Dr Hulda Clark, VeIron, and so on,,, use coffee enemas for detoxification.

Most people think that our rears were only meant to poop things out. Well, our bodies where also meant only to digest organic matter. So, in my opinion when you ingest non-organic foods then it causes a problem in the body and in my opinion coffee enemas are a benefical thing to do to help clean out the colon and get rid of toxins like the above people/institutes have been teaching for years.

RE: Enema

Hello thedee,

Um...lots of people ingest many poisons and non-organic matter yet do not contract cancer. Indeed, many live to ripe old ages and die of age.

However, again I say if people want to flush out their systems using coffee enemas it's a matter for them, but it's not everyone's cuppa tea (or coffee! :D)

Love,
Patsy.
xxxxxx

RE: Enema

In my opinion emotions have a lot to do with disease. For example, Dr Young gave an example of his father who was a healthy eating guy and a friend of theirs who smoked and didn't eat as healthy. Well, his father was an angry man. It didn't take much to set him off and get him going. The friend on the other hand was a very laid back guy and nothing really got to him. Well, it turned out that the healthy eating father died much earlier than the smoking unhealthy friend.

So I believe if you have a lot of stress, worries, anxiety, etc... in your life than that is the first thing you need to try and fix. Don't get me wrong, eating healthy is the key to health and longevity but so are your emotions and that is my opinion on why some people get cancer and some who have the same eating habits do not.

RE: Enema

Hello thedee,

I would agree wholeheartedly with emotions being the root cause of many illnesses. I knew a doctor who lived a very healthy lifestyle. He would jog a couple of miles each day, drink plenty of water and eat healthily, was celbate and so on - but he died of liver cancer at 29 years old.

What was going on there, I wonder?

Love,
Patsy.
xxxxxxx

RE: Enema

I wonder what his diet was like. Even tho people think they are living a healthy lifestyle is that what they are really doing? Did he eat mostly organic fruit and vegetables and meat? What kind of environment was he around? Was he around smokers?

There are just soooooo many factors that I believe can affect this that it is almost impossible to type it all down.

RE: Enema

Hello thedee,

I really couldn't say what this doctor's lifestyle consisted of, since it was so long ago. Many triggers cause cancer. Sometimes peoples' systems 'turn native' and go haywire because of hormonal changes within them, or genetic factors trigger it off.

Cancer is a great mystery.

Love,
Patsy.
xxxxxxx

RE: Enema

I have expanded on the Coffee Enema Thread - [link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=280527&mpage=1&key=&#281364 ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=280527&mpage=1&key=&#281364[/link]

Andrew.

RE: Enema

coffee enemas are recommended in the Gerson Tharapy for people with Cancer.

They can be very helpful in clearing toxins and in starting an immune system response.

Here is one link:

Taking coffee up the rear has a different effect than taking coffee orally. Again, according to research coffee enemas help with detoxification.

When my mother feels nausaous she goes and takes a coffee enema to relieve it. It helps stimulate the liver so it releases the toxins.

There has been a programme on BBC Called "The Spa Of Embarrassing Illnesses". They ask their clients to detox using organic coffee, the coffee causes the liver to release toxins. Also the people experienced 'colonic plaque' being expelled which was vile and spooks me out to think that that gunk is trapped in me, years old and CAN'T be a good thing. -Surely?

I know an anthroposophic nurse and she was telling me how they used to introduce tobacco smoke for constipation/as an enema...her English isn't perfect so not entirely sure of the mechanics but def involved the nurses smoking and exhaling it
'up there'! This is not used now in her hospital. They only used it on non-smokers, as it was tolerated better by smokers. Most smokers know that 'must go!' feeling on the first fag of the day...I'd prefer a tobacco enema over strong drugs myself