Bowen Technique

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Hi there
Glad to hear you're enjoying Bowen so much. It is a lovely medium to use and to receive.
You may want to try [link= http://www.bowtech.com ]www.bowtech.com[/link] for international and UK instructors. If you still have connections in Scotland, there are courses being run there.
Also the Australian and British based instructors do travel to run courses - who knows - if there was enough interest in Luxembourg they may even come to you - it's worth asking!

Best wishes - I'm sure you'll love doing Bowen

JJ

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Pleased to meet you Welshtherapist

Oh yes, that would be nice. I will look into it.

Thanks for your advice.

Julie
Lightningstarxxxx

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hello hello - got to stick European College of Bowen Studies on the list for studying as well as BowTech. I'm sorry Welshtherapist but someone had to do it!:)
Whoever you train with it IS fantastic and I hope you enjoy the training and treatments!
dibs:D

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Yes, I have looked at both, many thanks.

Now I need to win the lottery ! hee hee

Any thoughts on Bio-Energy Healing Therapy. This is another one my friend works with and it is sooooooo strong !

I do hands on healing myself and am clairvoyant and this is yet another way to work, but wow it is very very good.

Lightningstar xxx

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Hi Lightningstar
I trained with [link= http://www.nsthealth.com ]www.nsthealth.com[/link] They do training courses all over the world.
There are a few forms of bowen technique, taken from the few students Tom Bowen had with him during his prolific work. NST (Neuro Structural Integration Technique) is from the work Tom Bowen was doing last before he died and is thus called "Advanced Bowen".

It is wonderfully powerful and the responses I get from my clients' bodiesare little short of miraculous!

Good luck!

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Santa was very kind to me this year and I have a token to do the Bowen Technique. Do I need to have the Diploma in Physiology and Anatomy first is the question? I covered this in my RSA CET Fitness Leaders qualification, but it did not come with a separate diploma for the above. I know it is good for me to re-do this anyway as it is always a good thing to update yourself. Any ideas on what to do. There are different rules for different courses by the looks of it.

Love

Lightningstar xxxx

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I'm not sceptical of what Bowen might cure as what do I know? - and I've done no research so only have my own experience to go on.

But I put a part of my spine out up near my neck last July. I really needed help since I was bed-ridden a while and unable to move for weeks. Bowen with everything else except conventional NHS physiotherapy utterly failed to do anything short or long-term. I went in full faith, but in the end decided to save my money. I tried to be polite to the practitioner, trying to "find" (invent) things positive to say when she kept coming into the room. But the bare bones are that Bowen did just nothing for that condition. [:-]

Venetian

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I'm sorry to hear that. It worked great for my shoulder and after an op, very quickly too, but it does need to be revised every six weeks or so for it to work better.

Have you tried physio via water ? Just got that for you.

Good luck in finding freedom and movement.

Lightningstar xxxx

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Hi,

I didn't mean to sound off in a negative way, but just, as a client, to give a reality check. The leaflet I received made Bowen sound almost like a cure-all - LOL like those guys in the Wild West who would sell potions for anything. 😀

So just to let you people know that it did nothing for me at all though I went with great faith, and the practitioner seemed very good. And I tried other things too. Would you believe that in the end the only cure was a combination of FREE NHS phsio plus simply time?

So I posted on the thread just to give that reality-check and to give the PoV of a recent client.

V xxx

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Thanks for that, I understand the feeling. There have been some things I have tried and got absolutely nothing from it.

Rgds

Lightningstar xxxx

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Hi venetian

I'm sorry you had an unsuccessful treatment. On average, 80-85% of complaints are sorted within 3 treatments with Bowen and often (like most body work) the complaints get worse before they get better. However, some need more treatments, as well as other work, such as referral fornutritional or emotional counselling. Sometimes with additional complications such as MS, the response can vary and fluctuate widely from session to session. Also, depending on what's caused the injury, if it's a lifestyle choice, eg. work,which can't be changed, then regular (eg. monthly) sessions are needed, like an MOT!

The reason I got into doing Bowen is because I has such an excellent experience with it myself with a neck injury... which was gone after two treatments.

Anyway, I hope your back is completely better now andI'mglad that the physio worked well for you - it too can be fantastic treatment!

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AvalonDove

I noticed that you have to have worked in a therapist or medical position to go on the course you mentioned in NST. This is a shame as it sounds fab and I haven't. Have checked out the Bowen Technique and they say I don't have to have the Diploma to do the course but it would be good to have it for being registered with the European register.

Julie xxx

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Hi Julie

I'm not sure I entirely understand your question, but here's an answer to what I think you're asking!... for NST training it says you need to be a practising therapist. When I did my training, I wasn't actually practising yet, as I'd only just finished a Sports Therapy course exams and hadn't 'gone live' with paying clients yet... this wasn't a problem - I think they are more concerned with your knowledge:

You need to have some sort of bodywork experience or training really, and a knowledge of Anatomy - it's best if you can alreadylocate bony landmarks, muscles, ligaments, tendons and preferably nerves, as well as understand the nervous, endocrineand respiratorysystems. This is because the course doesn't teach the basics of body work, such as Anatomy & Physiology, nor does it teach client liaison, legal considerations, etc., so I suspect this is why it states you need to be a practitioner already... previous training to cover all of thisis a pre-requisite.

I notice you're in Luxembourg and I know that NST courses are run out of Belgium, France, Germany and Switzerland, as well as the UK so you should be able to get hold of a tutor fairly locally. I know a tutor in the UK and can PM her contact details if you like, so that you can ask her questions, although you can get hold of most of the contact information on the NST website, I've listed for you on another thread. Give them a call or email; they're very helpful.

Good luck!

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ORIGINAL: AvalonDove

I'm sorry you had an unsuccessful treatment. On average, 80-85% of complaints are sorted within 3 treatments with Bowen and often (like most body work) the complaints get worse before they get better. However, some need more treatments, as well as other work, such as referral fornutritional or emotional counselling.

Yes, that claim is why I posted. It just seems to me, a layperson not doing it, and who had no success at all, to be a bit of a Wild West potion claim. I suppose I have become sceptical TBH. And, LOL, I didn't need emotional counselling (until I'd been almost bed-ridden for a month of course!) - all I needed to begin was my neck fixed.

For the record, it's 99.9% OK now, from sheer time. 🙂

V

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I understand what you are saying ,Venetian. I am qualified in a variety of things, and find Bowen the most helpful for people, and I combine healling and EFT if need be, occasionally throwing in some 'sensitivity' testing and correcting if need be as an extra freebie. If there is no response at all in the first three sessions, then the client and I have a discussion as to whther they want to continue.Some people it just doesnt suit. I have never seen anyone longer than 6 sessions, one a week - by then they are feeling better to some degree or the problem has gone. People with long term diagnosed states, like rheumatoid arthritis, tend to benefit from regular top ups, it seems to keep the inflammation and pain underbetter control.
It does seem that Bowen is promoted as one of these miraculous cures as touted in the olden days ! It works on the body as a whole, and as such, as a Bowen Therapist, I dont treat specific conditions. I dont tell people it will fix their problems, I just say lets try it and see.
Just out of interest, how many Bowen session did you have, and how many physio sessions?
I often get people who have already been through everything else and Bowen is the last resort.
Even as an ardent Bowen fan, I still catch the monkey on my shoulder saying 'yeah, but........' know what I mean? Yet out of everything, for me as a therapist, I find the Bowen Technique is far more effective than anything else I know. BUT if I hadnt already got that knowledge, would my Bowen treatments be so effective? I sit just a means for me tolinkwith peoplewhile my guides get on and do the real stuff through and around me? or am I just truly nutty?
I have had Bowen tretaments from some practioners and it does nothing, not a blip, zilch, nada, and yet another does the first move and its like I have been straightened out and loosened up etc. within minutes.
Is it to do with compatable energies? does it all really come down to energy work?
Itsunfortunate that you didnt have a positive experinece with Bowen. If you know anyone who is Asthmatic, please tell them to at least look at what Bowne can do for them, as how Asthmatic/respiratory conditions respond to Bowen treatments is truly magical (voice of personal experience).
Shame we arent closer, I would happily do my Bowen for you to see if it was different.

I like these discussion boards, you can find a subject being disussed from both sides, postive and negative, pros and cons, with out people getting ratty about it (I hope!!) Havent been onthe forumfor along time.
love and light to all,
Penelope

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HI Penelope,

I really like your reply... you sum it up perfectly and I share your sentiments entirely.
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Best regards
Kate

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thank you AvalonDove - I did my training with the ECBS. Have looked at the NST route too, but its just too expensive on top of everything else. I like Bowen cos it continues to work int he body for some time afterthe treatment it self - you only have to look at the 'frozen shoulder' stuff - mine took exactly 28 days, andthen it shifted big time!
pen
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Hi,

I've just sorted through my papers and came across The Bowen School - they are based in N.E. London in Leytonstone, cant find a web address though if you would like a phone no. pm me.
It doesn't seem to specify that anatomy and physiology is a pre-requisite.

Luv Binah
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hello - just following on from Venetian's posts on this section, I 'd like to say its certainly something to bear in mind from a practitioner's point of view: check out our promotional information and make sure that it is clear and honest from the beginning. Yes, it's fantastic that Bowen has positive results for the majority of people, so make sure our wording reflects this. I've found it helpful for both myself and the person I'm working with, to talk about it during the consultation as well - the fact that Bowen will probably have a good impact on symtoms and that the good thing is that if it doesn't, we'll find that out fairy quickly (2 sessions?) and if it's not making a difference, either refer on to another therapy/ist or communicate and re-evaluate! Find out what they are hoping to achieve and don't promise the world!
Hope this isn't too preachy, it's certainly not meant to be!!!
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Thanks everyone, I think I can start my course back in Edinburgh in June, which means I will be able to spend some quality time with my family without the running about after the children and a possible night out with the girls, yeeeha!

Love

Julie xxxx

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hey lightning star!

im booked on the bowen course in edinburgh in june. Paual Esson (sp) im looking forward to it 🙂

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she is good, you'll enjoy it!
Penelope
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Hi Massaj

Looks like we will be meeting some time in the future then ! Really looking forward to doing this course, now I need to refresh my memory on the physiology and anatomy side of things.

See you in June

Julie xxxx

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ORIGINAL: penelope

Just out of interest, how many Bowen session did you have, and how many physio sessions?
I often get people who have already been through everything else and Bowen is the last resort.

I understand that, yes. 🙂

All's fine now but the problem at the time was that it was so bad, like a broken back, that I could not really lie or sit or anything and let go. I had one ostio session and gave up immediately as she couldn't touch me really without pain.

Bowen, I only had three, but it was costly to me and I felt no change at all.

Physio I went to plenty of times and she really knew her stuff, and I felt changes each time so went maybe 7 times, which did the trick, along with time. She was the only one of the three who took a fake skeleton and actually showed me just what had happened and my spine being partly out. The others seemed bemused .... 😮

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Yes, and the Maitland Therapy is very good for this too V, if you haven't already experienced it with your physio. I receive it regularly at the mo, have this fab German guy who is trained in it and he also is linked in a spiritual way too and knows about energies etc, which helps when I say I have a block around the solar plexus and can't seem to shift it, but then again this is also related to an op on another area I think too. Going off on one now!

Julie xxxx

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Thanks, Julie.

Thinking about it, I think what I needed at that time was nothing to do with "energies" and things I didn't understand :Dbut rather what helped was just plain "fixing" me purely physically such as traction and as if I was a car engine. That's what worked. 😉

It's like the saying that you don't take homeopathy for a broken leg.

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Hi venetian,
yes, sometimes it is purely physical work we need - a good massage, a realignment from an osteopath.
I use my posters and charts to demonstrate and explain to people whats happening with their muscles and bones, and why its pulling them out of synch and giving pain.
I would love to have a skelton, but they arn't too cheap. (bad english.sorry:))
Trouble is, Bowen is taught without the need of doing a & p, and its optional - if you want to join BTER (The Bowen Therapists European Register) then you have to have an a & p certificate. We live with our body all our lives, and it seems so amaxing how many people havent got a clue of how to important it is to maintain it, let alone understand how it works in some way! Should be part of the 3 - reading, writing, 'rithmatic, repair & renewal!!!!
Oh well, I am glad that things have got better for you.
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Just another reason why I am going to be learning how to do Bowen Therapy. We obtained whiplash from a recent car accident and my good friend here in Luxembourg gave my 6 and 4 yr old boys the therapy on different beds side-by-side as to keep them down long enough to do her stuff and then myself after. We seem to be doing wonders and are awaiting our next session.

Hugs

Julie xxxx