Hi all,
DEFRA intends to slaughter Shambo, the bull in the temple at Skanda Vale, because he is SUSPECTED to have bovine TB.
Now, suspicion is not proof. There is every possibility that Shambo does not have bovine TB at all. And even if he had, it IS curable. Still DEFRA seems determined to kill him.
Full story in:
[link= http://www.skandavale.org/shambo.htm ]http://www.skandavale.org/shambo.htm[/link]
Please read the full story and sign the online petition to spare Shambo's life.
More in fo in:
[link= http://www.hfb.org.uk/ ]http://www.hfb.org.uk/[/link]
Thanks.
Prashna
No Sunanda - not ironic this time! But I was pretty horrified at the difference in experience from our eye witness, who although not an impartial observer seems to give a fair account, and Mr Banerjee's account. I saw no women and children being dragged away on the telly. I thought the priests stood aside. As the scenes were "witnessed on world media" I was wondering if anyone knew of such footage. Otherwise Mr. Banerjee's account looks as if it's libellous and likely to incite a bit more than trade restrictions. Thanks for the link though Laura.
BanerjeeThe horrific scenes of pilgrims including ladies and children and Hindu priests being dragged away from an act of devotion celebrating the sanctity of life at the Hindu Temple at Skanda Vale, have incensed the Hindu Community here in Canada. These scenes were witnessed on world wide media and can only lead us to draw the conclusion that the government in Wales has no regard for the rights of the Hindu Community to freely practice their religion.
Barafundle Having 50 police officers marching towards you, some in full riot gear is quite an intimidating experience. Many people there were extremely shaken by the experience. One man next to me carrying his three year old daughter was not treated well, though the police on the whole did try to be as sensitive as possible under the circumstances.
I didn't reply to this earlier because I thought the answers to most of it had been made previously, but that was along way back in this thread now.
Many farmers, when having to have an animal put to sleep, feel a huge compassion and sense of loss,
They're not 'put to sleep' (that only happens in The Archers), they're killed.
I really do not understand why this thread has sunk to the level of condemning farmers as lacking compassion and only being interested in the money
It sunk lower than when the community caring for Shambo were being condemned for trying to save his life. (By the way, I heard a farmer the other day say that his herd were like his family. It conjured a picture of him quite happily fattening up his wife and children in order to sell them to a butcher.)
the Hindu community could work with farmers to try to get the law changed so that where a treatment is available it can be used to prevent the unnecessary slaughter of the animal.
They tried that. The government didn't want to know.
No Sunanda - not ironic this time! But I was pretty horrified at the difference in experience from our eye witness, who although not an impartial observer seems to give a fair account, and Mr Banerjee's account. I saw no women and children being dragged away on the telly. I thought the priests stood aside. As the scenes were "witnessed on world media" I was wondering if anyone knew of such footage. Otherwise Mr. Banerjee's account looks as if it's libellous and likely to incite a bit more than trade restrictions.
Mr. Banerjee's account isn't libelous. Men and women were dragged and carried away, though the children were treated more gently and were led away. The priests didn't just stand aside but were carried away also.
The most traumatic event for everyone was when the police broke the temple door down to gain entry.
The police were put in a very difficult position. Someone asked one of them if he could imagine this happening in a mosque and the officer just grimaced.
The significance of the action can be understood if you imagine the riot police storming a parish church during a Sunday service.
The most traumatic event for everyone was when the police broke the temple door down to gain entry.
In context though, this was only after entry had been politely requested and refused and it was necessary to get a warrant. Thus the court had ordered entry was allowed and if it wasn't given voluntarily the only course of action was to force entry. Would you expect the police to go against a court order?
The police were put in a very difficult position. Someone asked one of them if he could imagine this happening in a mosque and the officer just grimaced.
The police are in a position where they have to represent the Force that they work for. In speaking with the media (or someone who could possibly represent or pass on information to the media) they have to consider that they should not give personal opinions about situations whilst acting on behalf of the Force. The office may not have agreed with what was being done, but he was following a court order, and his personal opinions relating to whether the same would be done against a mosque are asking him to take the stand of a judge. This is not fair on that officer.
The significance of the action can be understood if you imagine the riot police storming a parish church during a Sunday service.
Only if the parish church had been requested entry, refused, and a court order/warrant had been issued.
As I keep having to highlight here, the action was taken based on legal reasons and was not a discriminatory attack against any religious community based on their religion. It just seems that there's a lot of people around who want to turn it into that sort of "battle".
Love and Reiki Hugs
OK thank you Barafundle I respect your account. It's a shame that people were manhandled, but I guess they put themselves up for that. I would still like to see some footage, though, to see if I thought it was "horrific". I have tried to find some video footage, but no success yet.
BTW what's happening with the other animals which were diagnosed as also possibly having TB?
Mr. Banerjee's account isn't libelous. Men and women were dragged and carried away, though the children were teated more gently and were led away. The priests didn't just stand aside but were carried away also.
The most traumatic event for everyone was when the police broke the temple door down to gain entry.
It must have been expected when people try to stop the police from carrying out their lawful responsibility under a court order. Surely the people there cannot have been naive enough to believe that it would not happen?
And why do people have to get children involved knowing what was going to happen?
I would have thought that the most traumatic event would have been shambo's, especially with all the noise and his subsequent removal?
I would have thought that the most traumatic event would have been shambo's
It was. That's why we were there Healistic.
It was. That's why we were there Healistic.
It was indeed.
Being poisoned to death is a pretty traumatic event.
Especially when alternatives were available.
Regards.
Prashna