Mother Meera, UK, 2007

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Sharon,

I have never heard of Mother Meera, just wondering if you have heard of Amma. Have a look at this link (hope its ok to put one here......) as I think it's similar.

Love & blessings,

Rachel

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Rachel, your link is fine by me.
I have heard of Amma - doesn't Sunanda go to see her? I'm sure she'll be back soon once she's got her new house sorted and her internet link going!
I know nothing about this really, but I am going to go, to see. I'm a bit of an old sceptic really, but I'm going with an open mind.
Sharonx

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Sharon,

Let me know how you get on, it would be interesting to know. I don't know anyone who has gone to see Amma here in Ireland but any of the Mind, Body, Spirit, Holistic shows always have someone on a stand with info about her. A friend of mine who is Irish by birth but with Indian parents, his mum saw her a number of times and felt a great "love" in her heart after meeting her, but in saying that I am a bit sceptical too, she is in Ireland now but too far away from me to go to see her but maybe in the future!. I have seen Sunanda's threads on the forums, must admit I don't get involved in many threads here but love the site and love having a browse (albeit late every night!). Once Sunada is sorted I will post her a question on Amma.

Love & blessings,

Rachel.

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Sharon and Rachel,

Go by all means and maybe let us know what you think?

Now, it's terribly snooty to compare and to try to even suggest one spiritual person may be 'higher' than another. But I haven't heard of Mother Meera in some time. This reminded me of the last time. There was a discussion on another forum, and some people who knew a little about her and had attended were of the opinion that she's not to be equated with the real spiritual 'greats' of India, past or present. I really don't know but thought I'd pass on what they felt. There were words to the effect that she was seemingly 'of the level of a devoted nun'. Maybe in 2007 you could say what you felt.

Sunanda would be the one to tell about Amma, yes, and I've never been in her company either. I'vea guidebook to India which makes the trip to Amma's ashram sound just idyllic if done by waterway, with jungle or thick trees, all tropical, on either side. Then you reach the ashram, it said. It sounded just wonderful! LOL, but then I clicked on a link about the ashram! - there are hundreds or thousands there, so many that they've built tower blocks of flats; virtual sky-scrapers to house everyone! Sadly when someone becomes that popular internationally it's hard to maintain that intimacy of smaller gatherings. :eek:I kinda have the image for Indian gurus of a couple of dozen followers sitting around them in a cave, naive as that may be, not huge tower blocks! - but what else could they do, given the numbers?

V

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I will let you know. At the moment I've just registered on the site and got a confirmation e-mail back.

I think it's a shame too about thecongestion around Amma.

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The Amma thing is just a fact of life, Sharon. It's like, not many Catholics can get to have a decent, long interview with the Pope! Two Hindu friends of mine have a personal Guru who used to be deputy-head of a very large organisation, and they knew they had to see as much of him as possible while he was only deputy, before the head passed away and their Guru became head. Sure enough, now he's head and very busy leading an international spiritual body.

I also had once a spiritual - I was going to say 'guide', but that would be misunderstood here by spiritualists! - teacher? - who had thousands of followers. She was pretty amazing as she knew so many by name and sight, and even with so many people for her to think of, she sometimes kept in personal touch (before the days of the internet).

V

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi all,

I am having difficulty writing this. So please try to make allowances.

Sadly, I did follow the link to this Mother Meera site.

A very good person she may be, Avatar most certainly she is not. I know that word has been much devalued of late, especially on this MB where it is used to denote a picture.

Venetian, you would know that Christopher Isherwood did not use that expression even to describe Ramakrishna Paramahansa. Just look in the back page of the book.

However this website seems to have no compunction about describing her as an "Avatar". (line 1, word 1)

Use of that word just puts me off.

That is not to say that she is no good. I do not know that. She might be very good. But avatar she is not and I would have extreme reservations aboutanyone who is described as such.

I hope I have not upset you too much. If I have, please accept my apologies.

Regards.

Prashna

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Mother Meera is a profound and amazing deeply spiritual woman who works with silence. She lives in Germany as she married a German man, she does not speak but looks at you in the eyes and as she does so the spirit just moves you .I have no doubt at all that she is a very special person.
I have heard of many great happenings around her and I recognise her soul , within my limited human capacity
Amma the hugging Saint as she s known comes from and lives in Quilon the backwaters of Kerala..This awe inspiring woman has travelled the world hugging and loving people for a long long time ..Th emoney that is collected has built hospital and schools and she works with bhakti or devotion and sound or bhajan's spiritual chants in sanskrit the purest sound
This raises vibration
Both these women are beyond words.
In england there is a white woman who is I feel really special called Jessica West..Not the same but a western version of a spiritual teacher that I have done some courses with.
I was blown away by all of them and none of them tell you how to live your life or charge you a packet to talk too and be guided by
It is where your spirit moves for you have free will and free choice always
Love June
xxxx

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Whoops, I hadn't expected the thread to delve into the worth or non-worth of this or that spiritual teacher - but then I started it! Naively, I'd thought my one post might be 'it'. :eek:;)

Some comments pro and contra, following Prashna's post, if I may -

* Prashna, though you go into Mother Meera's appearance, I don't know if you have any preconceived notion of what a spitually gifted person should look like?! Pretty normal quite often, in my experience.

* I note that she lives in Germany, where £300 is I'd think less than an average week's income.

* Prashna, your early words appear to be a put-down upon all Indian Gurus, implying that people "have to make a living somehow". Personally I accept the 'Guru ideal' or that such people exist and are worth having in your life. A worthy one would take not a rupee from you or, especially in the West, costs may need to be covered such as the upkeep of a center or ashram. Sri Ramakrishna was a Guru, so you do accept the concept in principle. I take it you are pointing, correctly IMO, to the fact we need to choose with care.

* On the 'contra' side, I agree with Prashna on the word 'Avatar'. Perhaps the writer of this official website has no idea of the real, technical meaning of the word; but it's such a huge and vast thing to be an avatar that actually, though his followers believe Ramakrishna was one, I tend to quietly disagree in even his case. (Another thread if anyone wanted to discuss that, I'd suggest.)

* Looking at the website again, I only now noted the words: "The unique gift of Mother Meera to the world is to make available for the first time in the history of the Earth the radically transformative Light of Paramatman, the Supreme Being." Oh, dear, such a claim is a real put-off IMO and hardly warranted.

First time in the history of the Earth, hey? 😉

V

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Hmmm, having looked at the link first given here, I wondered two things ... to what extent this proposed visit is for the benefit of the organisers, well known in the field of spiritual tours, and alsoif the two photographs are of the same woman. Perhaps I'm just cynical 😮

Looking back here on HP, I find there’s less former discussion on Mother Meera than I’d imagined. From this year in the Reiki forum (or to give it it’s fairly recently augmented full title the 'Reiki & Other Energy Healing' forum):

[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=301344 ] http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=301344 [/link]

The link there to: [link= http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html ] http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/amma.html [/link]
gives her history, though it’s not her own website.

Also this rather older one:

[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=72675 ] http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=72675 [/link]

See sunanda’s post # 3 there … now that should save her a lot of rummaging, as you can never find anything when you’ve just moved house! 😀

Holistic

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Juno,

I can see that I have upset you. Please accept my apologies. In consideration of the feelings of yourself and anyone else of similar mind I have edited my post extensively.

But that's still not enough.

I need to say again with clarity and precision my analysis of the situation.

My feelings about the use of the word avatar remains unchanged.

My feelings about this person remain unchanged. I did say I simply do not know her from personal experience, she might be very good. I still say that.

I said there are a lot of persons in India who make such claims. That still remains.

Venetian would know this, but the rest of you may not.

When Naren first visited R he was extremely sceptical. What did R say, venetian?

R: You must be sceptical. you must test me again and again and believe me only when you are certain yourself.

Truer words were never spoken.

IMO, scepticism (even atheism)is anessential pre-requisite for real belief. If you just take something on trust without testing it yourself, how are you ever going to be certain in your belief.

This is especially true of Sanatana Dharma which is very much based on logic and reason. That's why it appeals to me as a Scientist and professional Engineer. If I could not start with a dis-belief, I could never truly believe.

But after all that, I would like to say this:

The worth of a person is not in the clothes or jewellery they wear, or in the language they speak, in the qualifications they hold or the earthly riches they possess.

It is in how much that person helps anotherunmotivated byundue personal gain.

If she has helped you, then that is enough. At least for yourself, and others in similar positions.

As R said: One who loves a sentient being is the only one serving Ishwara (the Infinite).

This is the crux of his teaching, not worship of a deity or idol or even an idea.

But worship of fellow creatures and that includes the environment in Sanatan Dharma. This is so critical, that it merits repeating. I hope you will not mind my doing tha:

One who loves a sentient being is the only one serving Ishwara.

Regards.

Prashna

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Just to make clear that in Prashna's writing above of "R" and "Naren", R is Ramakrishna, and Naren was his chief disciple, Swami Vivekananda.

The problem with the use of the appelation 'avatar' is that although there's a bit of variation in how the word is used and what it means, it basically means one of two things, or a combination of the two:

1. Literally an incarnation of God, or an aspect of God. Such as Christianity having Jesus as the 'Son' of God. In the New Age we are used to thinking and saying that we're all sons and daughters, incarnations, of God. But avatar doesn't mean this - it means literally that the person or being is Vishnu or Kali or some other specific aspect of God come to earth. The being isn't therefore considered to be a person or human at all in the usual sense, but quite literally, God. (I depart from Ramakrishna followers on that point as I take him to still be a human, with karma, needing to incarnate.)

2. A bit less awesome, a secondary meaning could be a being who was mortal and did used to incarnate and reincarnate, but who balanced all karma and attained full liberation ...... but they have incarnated and taken a body again anyway purely to bless and help mankind. Rather like the Boddhisatva ideal of Buddhism as I understand it.

Now, both those concepts are extremely high! I don't know if Mother Meera herself says she's an avatar, or just her followers in fact. Wikipedia has a good entry on the word 'avatar', [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar[/link]
but a key portion of that is probably here:

Criticism of contemporary avatars

Many [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement ]new religious movements[/link] related to Hinduism (see [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_Hindu_movements ]Contemporary Hindu movements[/link]), some of which are viewed as [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult ]cults[/link], have more contentious views, including a tendency in modern times to place their [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru ]guru[/link] as [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishta-deva ]ishta-deva[/link].

[link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Tapasyananda ]Swami Tapasyananda[/link] of [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramakrishna_Mission ]Ramakrishna Mission[/link], on commentating about this phenomenon, said:

The avatar doctrine has been excessively abused by many Hindus today and we have the strange phenomenon of every disciple of a sectarian Guru claiming him to be an avatar. Christianity has therefore limited the Divine Incarnation as an one-time phenomenon. The theory has strong points and equally strong defects but it surmounts the gross abuse of the doctrine indulged in by many Hindus.

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Venetian,

I am impressed as ever with your grasp of the concept of avatar. I am afraid that it is such a devastating concept that I am unable to say very much about it at this time. Unfortunately, most Hindus are confused about it, which does not help.

Wikipidia entry I have not examined as yet. I would be surprised, but delighted, if that is completely satisfactory.

The best way is to start with examining the ten avatars of Vishnu, of which all but one have been realised. Perhaps most people just study Sri Krishna, and leave it that. Now, although Sri Krishna was a purna Avatar, it is still necessary to study Prahlad for example, to learn about NriSingha Avatar. A misunderstanding there can lead to the confusion about Prahlad Jani (should have been Prahlad Jnani) for example, yuk. Without that understanding it's impossible to appreciate why he/she is such a contradiction in terms.

Then you need to know about Parashuram, for example. A Brahmin who denuded the Earth of Kshshtriyas seven times!

And then there is Gautama Tathagata, a most intriguing Avatar if ever there was one.

And then there was Matsya avatar (a fish), Kurma avatar ( a tortoise), Baman Avatar (a shortie). One step to cover the Earth, another to cover tha heavens, and another to cover the nether regions. Small man, big steps. First one to say:
"A small step for man, a giant one for mankind" I suppose.

Difficult even to imagine this woman in that company!

But how many would know all that?

If you like I could start a thread on what Avatar really means. But I would have to reach to the outermost limits of my knowledge and even that may not be enough!

Regards.

Prashna

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It's up to you, Prashna. I'm not sure I have anything to add on avatars.

Well, briefly a word on Ramakrishna. His disciples took him to be an avatar: that he was Rama and Krishna returned. The problem knowledgeable disciples have in thinking their teacher to be an avatar is that the concept implies that they are the Perfection of God upon Earth. They are literally God, not a human. How, then, to think about all the seemingly human traits that person may exhibit? R fell over and broke his arm; in samadhi he was unaware of his surroundings; sometimes he appeared very simple, or forgetful, or emotional. In samadhi, or when ill, he needed assistance to move around. And so forth.

Now, he was very clever, and disciples often suspected he was putting some of this on to test them or put them in a teaching situation. (He might feign being a simpleton, for example.) But it wasn't all a put-on. And in considering a Guru to be a literal avatar, such as an incarnation of Vishnu, disciples have to stretch logic to the extreme IMHO, in explaining away the Guru's actions. Essentially they see his or herapparent humanness, foibles, and little flaws as being all a test of themselves - it's all a "play of God", all a put-on, all a joke on them, they say. I think this is stretching it, and that even such an one as R is not an avatar but an extremely attained human being, near to, but while alive not at the point of, ultimate liberation. But it's only my personal PoV.

V

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi venetian,

I never cease to be amazed by you. How did you ever manage to keep such a cool head, firmly screwed on and yet achieve such depth of understanding continues to intrigue me.

But briefly, here is my response:

1. I agree 100% with your POV. R was not an avatar, IMO. I could state my reasons, but I suspect apart from you there would be no interest. And you have worked it out already.

2. As to his disciples, that really I cannot explain in 1 or 2 sentences. In any case, it would require an understanding of the local culture at such depth that is difficult to acquire and even more difficult to convey.

3. For reasons I have stated under (1) I feel no need to start a thread on Avatar or any other topic at the moment. Except one, but that is only obliquely related to Hinduism and therefore will not be on this Forum.

Regards.

Prashna

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi all
No I am not all upset ..to be upset would suggest that I take comments on various different beliefs personally and I do not.
I have experienced first hand these things and I am not a gullibleperson, I have seen Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and been in deep meditaion with them at my side ( or in my aura)
The pathway that moves you to towards full recognition of the divine self is a journey the individual makes in theway that feels right for them and there is no right or wrong as we have free will
I am really preveledged to have had these experiences and I share what I have understood with you
Love June
x

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Hi wonderful Juno,

You wrote " I have seen Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and been in deep meditaion with them at my side ( or in my aura) ".

I am really intrigued. I wish I could learn from you how to do that!

Best.

Prashna

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Hi Sunanda,

You just posted on 'Faiths' but say you meant to post here. In reply to that, well, you know how threads can go here and there a bit. If we were discussing a totally unrelated subject here, it would be off-topic. But you know, no matter how pure and wonderful Mother Meera may be, these are startling claims and the avatar subject relates to her. (Also as stated it concerns me about "first time in the history of the Earth .... ")

As you mention in your post, if I seem to refer to anything Prashna 'didn't write' - well the confusion will be that he did but that it's now edited or has been edited. You'll have to fill in the gaps! 😀

Gott go. But maybe it is just the devotees saying all this as you say. How do we know? But a bit irresponsible by them then,IMHO if so.

Edit: Hi again Sunanda. On the German husband subject you ask about. From the Wikipedia entry:

"In [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981 ]1981[/link] she made her first trip to [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany ]West Germany[/link], where she together with Mr. Reddy and her close companion Adilakshmi settled down a year later and married a German in [link= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982 ]1982[/link]."

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Yes, sunanda PMd me asking me to move her post to this thread. Unfortunately, posts in the MIDDLE of threads cannot be moved, and sunanda has obviously had to leave the place from where she was posting before she could follow my suggestion to re-post it here, so the best I can do is to copy & paste it here for you, without my siggy on the bottom:

Holistic

Posted on behalf of sunanda:

Hi all

Still not 'sorted' in the new place but getting there. Internet connection will take another week or so but here I am in the internet cafe (just briefly on my way home from a day's work) and I simply had to post on this thread.
Firstly, thanks Hol for finding my earlier post about Amma. And thanks too Sharon for the link to Mother Meera and the info about signing up for her darshan when she comes. I will certainly be there, all being well, as good friends of mine have met Mother Meera several times and have only good to say of her.

Venetian and Prashna, I'm sorry but I feel that you are both veering off topic. Do please start a new thread on Avatars if you feel the need. Personally I feel that it matters not what label you put on a holy being. It should be noted though that the designation 'avatar' comes usually from the devotees rather than from the guru. As always an open mind is needed and a 'good' guru should welcome, as Ramakrishna did, close inspection and even scepticism.
Lastly, before I head home for my much needed supper, I must have missed something V of Prashna describing Mother Meera's appearance. I shall go and have another look - and have just now done so - but Prashna says nothing about Mother Meera's appearance. The only other thing I wanted to say was that I had not heard that Mother Meera had married a German man. Is that certain? I know that she was in Germany when her 'guardian' Mr Reddy who had raised her from childhood died and so she simply stayed there. Interestingly Andrew Harvey was a very early devotee but later denounced her as a fraud. I can post more on that tomorrow but now am really drooping so will bid you farewell.

Much love to all
Sunanda

PS To Prashna - but also off topic, sorry - I shall tell you of my experiences in Auroville some time soon.

Edited to say that in my tiredness I have posted this on the wrong thread. it should be in the Mother Meera thread and I have asked dear Holistic to move it over if possible.

< Message edited by sunanda -- 18 November 2006, 7:36:54 PM >

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Hello there
Andrew Harvey is mentioned below..I think it is worth people researching the facts about why he decided to label Mother Meera as a fraud and his agenda behind this-- there is a complicated human psychology behind this and you will note he then went and stood by the side of Sargoyal Rinpoche..all humans that put on pedestals anyone will hardly ever have their expectations met because it is illusion, it is illusion because we can not help but intepret the world through our own experience and that is natural and human and as it is without judgement x
She is a spiritual being and nothing with these masters is simple, we interpret stuff in a simple way because we know so litte
Re; Meditation.
It takes a practice and through it we find the divine self..If anyone wants to send me a private message I wll happily give you tips along the way to be able to step out of the physical
Re;Ramakrishna, Sarada Davi, Vivekenanda
Their divine presence is like laughter on a sunny day . ask for proof , research and find the answers through meditation dialogue with the divine connection with us all. Ask for a physical sign as well , they will give and give ..They do not judge you ..

With love
June
x

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Hi all

Thanks to all - Holistic for copying my post here and David for picking up on it in the other (Amma) thread. I have to admit that I haven't yet had time to have a good look at Sharon's link which started this thread. All I did was to register my wish to receive Mother Meera's darshan when she comes to UK (I voted for London of course). So I haven't actually read the claims about her being an avat ar etc. I am quite open to the fact that she may well be - as may we all - and am totally in agreement with June above. These beings are unfathomable to us, IMHO...and I do not find myself on the path of wisdom but on the path of devotion.
David - yes I worked out that probably something had been edited/deleted from Prashna's post.

OK - off I go again.

Love to all
Sunanda xxx

Edited to say thanks to David for the info r e Mother Meera's husband. And to add that I've just had a look at the link in the first post and can't actually see there that anyone uses t he word avatar with regard to her.

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

I think I may be the one who first gave some indication as toMother Meera having ahusband, in that [messenger-wise only ;)] I posted a link to a former discussion in Reiki earlier in this thread, my post # 11 above, although I did make the point that it wasn't MM's own website:

[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=396998 ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=396998[/link]

[sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif]

And sunanda, you're most welcome re the copying 😀

Love,

Holistic

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi Sunanda, and Holistic,

Good to see you made it to a net cafe, Sunanda,

This is just a short post to say that I have nothing at all against Mother Meera so far as my present understanding goes. :)If you know me, you know me fairly well. I just like things to be clear, maybe debated, but ultimately to arrive at whatever 'truth' we can, hard as it is to know or even dialogue on 'truth'!

So I wish her well; my only debate is the 'avatar' one. If it should be a different thread, then fine. 🙂

But somewhere along the line I had to turn off the alarm bells. :eek:Everything, and all the usual pitfalls were going off about this "For the first time in Earht's history ... "

That's cult wordage.

That makes her above Gautama and Jesus? Somebody should sort out their text and her website, is my only point, and I hope MM would agree! If the followers do NOT agree, as I suspect, then they do her a grave disservice, and open themselves up to endless debate, and frankly there is no need for that.

V xxx

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi venetian,

I do agree.

My reservations are precisely the same as yours. They arise from claims that I just cannot accept re: Avatar and "first time....".

Apart from that, I have already stated very clearly my belief: that the value of a person is not in their apparel, or possessions, physical or material. A person should be remembered not for what he or she has; but for what he or she does.

Therefore if Mother Meera has helped even one person, she has done a memorable thing. But I understand she has helped many. Therefore, it is beyond dispute or argument that she is a good person.

Of that I have no doubt, whatsoever.

Regards.

Prashna

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

All I'd add to that is a big "sorry" to Sharon that the thread went off in directions she never intended. It seemed important to me to discuss a few of these issues; but obviously dear Sharon was intending just to inform people about an event!

So forgive me about that, Sharon. ;)xxx

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hellol spiritual warriors
Well no one is above anyone else, Buddha, Jesus, Angels, whatever, Why? because energy is without ego personalised identification , it is a force of essence that has its won vibration
The vibration of Jesus is so strong that it would blow the dense matter of the body apart of he were to use one of us as a spokesperson
The spiritual teachers like Vishwananda,Amma, Meera ( all beyond words) are more able to take that level of vibration and through darshan transmit a tiny bit to us! This raises our vibrations
Love June
x

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

All I'd add to that is a big "sorry" to Sharon that the thread went off in directions she never intended. It seemed important to me to discuss a few of these issues; but obviously dear Sharon was intending just to inform people about an event!

So forgive me about that, Sharon. xxx

Completely forgiven, V - in fact I wasn't even thinking that you'd transgressed! So, no worries.

It was just an "information" post, but I did think it might be a topic of debate. I can't really contribute because I have no opinion to share, but I am reading the replies with interest. HP is always a fascinating place to be - we have such great contributors.

I never even knew what an Avatar was before this thread - I thought it was an alter egoforinternet sites.

Sharonx

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

Hi all

Imagine my astonishment when Mother Meera turned up here in Tiruvannamalai! She arrived just as I was leaving for Kerala and I was disappointed to miss her but consoled myself with the thought that I will hopefully see her in London this Summer. But I got back to Tiru on 10th and learned that she had come back and was giving darshan last night and the night before.

I went. Both nights. No more to say right now.

Except that she is indeed very special.

With love
sunanda xxxx

RE: Mother Meera, UK, 2007

hi all

Just wanted to say that dates have been posted on meeras website

18th /19th july edinburgh
21st/22nd/23rd july London
Cardiff still under review.

Times 2pm and 7pm each day.

still more info to come.....

you can register on the site, but states first come first served basis. good luck.

blessings
sacrel