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Hi - could you tell me if reiki ahould not be given to Christians

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Westie

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Reiki can be given to anyone who wishes to receive it, regardless of their religion. However some Christians (and some non-Christians!) would refuse to be given Reiki - that is a choice imposed by them, not by Reiki.

With love,
Amber

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it was discussed on another forum which is now closed,pity as it was very interesting discussion.
it can be used by any religion or even atheist.

I go to church and was told to keep quiet about reiki,but i use reiki without them knowing , but the spiritualist church is ok with it. some people in my family deosnt believe in reiki and they are christians.

let me see if i can find link, found my papers but the link is half erased so cant see it but try google reiki for christians which is on top of my papers.

Amethsytfairy:)

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Reiki Pixie
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Westie, have a look at

Best Wishes

RP

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Hi Westie

Well the Quaker meeting house in Coventry has regular Reiki shares held there so they're obviously OK with it!

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Hi - thanks very much for all your replies - I shall mention this to my client

Thanks again
Westie

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spiritualist church

I didn't know there one such church. What is it like? can you describe it?
Thanks.

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Energylz
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Hi TheMortalOne,

Dug up a bit of an old thread here.... :rolleyes:

There's lots of spiritualist churches about:

[url]Spiritualist church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Not sure if this list I found through google is all of them but it gives an idea...

[url]church list listing spiritualist churches[/url]

😉

All Love and Reiki Hugs

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Tashanie
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Hi - could you tell me if reiki ahould not be given to Christians

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Westie

I have given reiki to christians and know of a reiki practitioner who is a devout christian

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I have given reiki to christians and know of a reiki practitioner who is a devout christian

On the other hand, I was asked if would do some pre-exam massage treatments for students in the Christian Union at Essex University, but the request was rescinded when the leader of the CU discovered that I had trained as a Reiki practitioner, even though I promised not to use it!

The reason, he said, was that since Reiki is not part of God's work, it is, by default, the work of the Devil.

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The reason, he said, was that since Reiki is not part of God's work, it is, by default, the work of the Devil.

I've heard that reason before, but it's something I don't quite get.

What exactly IS God's work? If we drive a car is that something God would accept as his work? If we shop in a supermarket is that God's work? Working for the armed forces? Helping drug addicts? just what exactly? Perhaps we have to simply work and live off the land with no mod-cons?

I think if someone is so fundamentally religious that they call something they don't understand the work of the devil, then you're better off not dealing with them anyway. Sad that people limit themselves so much, but that's their choice I guess.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

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On the other hand, I was asked if would do some pre-exam massage treatments for students in the Christian Union at Essex University, but the request was rescinded when the leader of the CU discovered that I had trained as a Reiki practitioner, even though I promised not to use it!

The reason, he said, was that since Reiki is not part of God's work, it is, by default, the work of the Devil.

I put that part in red just to emphasize it. It is really a contradiction when Christians, who by definition, belive in Christ. Well, in most of the stories in the Bible, Jesus is shown to be a healer. So, according to this church leader, Jesus spent his life doing the devil's work. :rolleyes:

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I put that part in red just to emphasize it. It is really a contradiction when Christians, who by definition, belive in Christ. Well, in most of the stories in the Bible, Jesus is shown to be a healer. So, according to this church leader, Jesus spent his life doing the devil's work. :rolleyes:

I totally accept that some Christians will see reiki as the work of the devil. However it is not the healing they object to. It is the fact that we claim to be guided in our work by 'spirit' The old testament forbids consorting with mediums - and as my reiki master told me - reiki is a form of mediumship.

The ends do NOT justify the means in their view.

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I totally accept that some Christians will see reiki as the work of the devil. However it is not the healing they object to. It is the fact that we claim to be guided in our work by 'spirit' The old testament forbids consorting with mediums - and as my reiki master told me - reiki is a form of mediumship.

Woaahh! don't tar us all with the same brush 😀

In my understanding Reiki is not guided by any spirits and is certainly not a form of mediumship. Connecting with the energy of the universe doesn't require any spirits, unless you choose to see it that way.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

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Tashanie
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Woaahh! don't tar us all with the same brush 😀

In my understanding Reiki is not guided by any spirits and is certainly not a form of mediumship. Connecting with the energy of the universe doesn't require any spirits, unless you choose to see it that way.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

And talking to your spirit guide is NOT mediumship? I say ' we claim' because I don't communicate well with spirit and my mediumship ability is best described as 'patchy'

regardless fo whether you agree with what my reiki master says - and being honest I am not entirely sure I agree with her - it is the spirit guidance part of reiki that makes some devout christians reluctant to accept it. Even if they don't see us a mediums, they are unsure of the spirit guiding the healing is a good one or a bad one.

There is of course also the whole issue that people who have died are 'supposed' to be in heaven (or the other place!) and shouldn't be communicating with us in any way shape or form.

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And talking to your spirit guide is NOT mediumship? I say ' we claim' because I don't communicate well with spirit and my mediumship ability is best described as 'patchy'

Which spirit guide? I never said I talk to a spirit guide. :rolleyes: Spirit Guides are not part of traditional Japanese Reiki.

regardless fo whether you agree with what my reiki master says - and being honest I am not entirely sure I agree with her - it is the spirit guidance part of reiki that makes some devout christians reluctant to accept it. Even if they don't see us a mediums, they are unsure of the spirit guiding the healing is a good one or a bad one.

It sounds like your Reiki master has introduced her own beliefs into her teachings, i.e. bringing her spiritual understanding and belief in spirit guides into it as though it's what Reiki is about. I'm afraid I don't agree with her. I've practiced Reiki very well without the need for any spirit guides. Not saying that it won't work with them, if that's the way that people want to practice it, but we certainly can't say that because someone does Reiki then they are communicating with spirit guides etc.

There is of course also the whole issue that people who have died are 'supposed' to be in heaven (or the other place!) and shouldn't be communicating with us in any way shape or form.

That's a new one on me... why shouldn't people in heaven be communicating with us in any way, shape or form? Surely many christains believe in being guided by angels? Maybe I'm mistaken. 😮

All Love and Reiki Hugs

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Perhaps we have to simply work and live off the land with no mod-cons?


Presumably not, since this is what Cain did.

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There is of course also the whole issue that people who have died are 'supposed' to be in heaven (or the other place!) and shouldn't be communicating with us in any way shape or form.


I don’t know about “shouldn’t” but “don’t” is certainly a valid belief.

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Reiki Pixie
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Reiki? Spirit Guides? To me Reiki is a form of energy healing. I don't use spirit guides, Reiki is just IS. To me it's more to do with the Tao, Wu Wei and Qi. (Mind you some Christian's would freak about those concepts as well.) If a Reiki practitioner wishes to use spirit guides that's up to them, it's their personal choice. But it's not necessarily part of the system of Reiki.

RP

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Tashanie
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Which spirit guide? I never said I talk to a spirit guide. :rolleyes: Spirit Guides are not part of traditional Japanese Reiki.

It sounds like your Reiki master has introduced her own beliefs into her teachings, i.e. bringing her spiritual understanding and belief in spirit guides into it as though it's what Reiki is about. I'm afraid I don't agree with her. I've practiced Reiki very well without the need for any spirit guides. Not saying that it won't work with them, if that's the way that people want to practice it, but we certainly can't say that because someone does Reiki then they are communicating with spirit guides etc.

That's a new one on me... why shouldn't people in heaven be communicating with us in any way, shape or form? Surely many christains believe in being guided by angels? Maybe I'm mistaken. 😮

All Love and Reiki Hugs

All the reiki texts I have seen DO mention spirit guides. In fact as I said my mediumship ability is at best patchy so I don;t feel I have a strong communication with any guide (spirit or angel) but I trust my intuition. I DO believe my intuition can be guided by spirit (or angel)

Christinas believe in angels - but not that they can take an active role in the world today.

I will be honest and say I am not sure WHAT I believe!!! I just trust that when I give reiki , the energy will work its 'magic'

And as to why spirit should not be communicating with us from heaven - well if that can happen then the person receiving the message is acting as a 'medium' and the old testament specifically warns against consorting with mediums - so BEING one would be very unchristian.

It is only a minority who hold these sorts of views - and like I said I have given reiki to devout christians. But my sister who is way more devout than I am is clearly taken aback about the turn my life has taken and doesn't know WHAT to make of it.

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As for Reiki books talking about spirit guides. Well unfortunately many do and many of these books are written by the uninformed or simply jumping on the bandwagon. Dig deeper into Reik and its Japanese roots, and it isn't relevent whether you channel or not. Reiki in the west had a "funny start" and is still in a process of maturation.

As for "religious fanatics" in general, whether christian, muslim, pagan, jewish, buddhist, hindu & so forth, I haven't got the time of day for them. Why waste time on the bitter, twisted and moronic beliefs of others?! Interesting thing is that people who progress deeply on a spiritual path seem to get on and find common ground, unlike the fanatics and their fragmented minds.

RP

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Interesting thing is that people who progress deeply on a spiritual path seem to get on and find common ground, unlike the fanatics and their fragmented minds.

Youtube tells a different story, have you been on there lately - all of those 'truth-seekers' (etc) are clustering together nicely. I had to go cold turkey a couple of months back and stop looking. Watching them being conned, conning themselves, conning each other ~ I can see where it's all heading, and it's tragic to watch..... so many misunderstandings of what Awakening means.....

As for "religious fanatics" in general, whether christian, muslim, pagan, jewish, buddhist, hindu & so forth, I haven't got the time of day for them. Why waste time on the bitter, twisted and moronic beliefs of others?!

I don't think I'm pointing out anything that isn't glaringly obvious. But, I reckon it's a fairly safe bet that any group living under the misguided belief that they have everything sussed and some other group has it WRONG ( "bitter twisted and moronic beleifs") has a "fragmented mind" itself, just of a different type..... and so the conflicts continue.

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Hi WS, that's just my manner. Shedding what isn't necessary and investigating deeper what's more useful. Some things need to be condemned. Take for example that poor woman who died in Ireland recently after having a partial miscarriage and the doctors wouldn't operate on her due to outdated religious laws on abortions. She would more likely lived. The fetus had a heart beat so the medics wouldn't operate, so she died of blood poisioning. She was a dentist, had medical training. So here we have a law based on the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church, which is bitter, twisted and moronic! A law that has little compassion or wisdom. I don't say this with anger or upset, but with disappointment 🙁

RP

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