Where in the bible are angels mentioned, have worked with angels alot lately but find myself asking if this is all in my mind.Does anyone have any links to this,its important for me at the moment.
Hi,
I just did a google on "angels in the bible" and lots of links came up.
I only looked at the first 2 or 3 but this one seemed quite extensive:
as did this one:
If it's all in your mind then it's all in a lot of peoples minds! 🙂
Hope that helps,
With love,
Amber
Hi,
I just did a google on "angels in the bible" and lots of links came up.
I only looked at the first 2 or 3 but this one seemed quite extensive:as did this one:
If it's all in your mind then it's all in a lot of peoples minds! 🙂
Hope that helps,
With love,
Amber
Amber Lady, thank you so much for this,I am however entitled to question it, dont you think,I only speak for myself 🙂
Hi star,
An online search answers your basic question. However, what's so interesting about the Bible in relation to angels is that back then, at least, angels were considered to be so physical - capable of incarnating as "men" and simply capable of being totally physical - nothing "airy fairy" about it.
This is all off the top of my own head without using any search facility TBH, but angels, so-called, are often physical in the Old Testament. Jacob wrestled with one, so you can't get much more physical than that. They are described as eating, lusting, etc. In other words, none of the present New Age clap-trap from people who haven't truly seen an angel in their lives. (Or known it when they did?)
In the New Testament, the gospels and letters, the most oft-quoted book is the Book of Enoch, also the most often-cited book by Jesus, which book talks about how a certain category of angels took on physical desires and the desire for power, which desires led to them being born "as men" and reincarnating. Jesus and others in the NT often cite the Book of Enoch, even if not always by name as they all knew the book, as a testimony as to whom they considered the power elite to be. Jesus knew the Book of Enoch inside-out: he refers to it many times in just even the four canonical gospels.
After all, literally read the gospels, and Jesus reserved for a certain kind of "man" no love and no forgiveness either. In the gospels you'll read how the scribes and pharisees, and others, were told there was no heavenly forgiveness for them, and that their origin lay in evil ("the devil"). Food for thought?
V
I may be wrong, but I remember reading a while ago about Seraphim....now aren't they giants, and regarded as the "angels"? Which makes them very physical. Or am I missing an important part somewhere?
xx
Found this link to clarify my query even further:
This is an entirely unresearched question, but I remember reading a while ago about Seraphim....now aren't they giants, and regarded as the "angels"? Or am I missing an important part somewhere?
xx
What do you mean 'unresearched question' ?
I mean "please excuse me if I'm obviously wrong, as I haven't been bothered to look it up this morning".
I mean "please excuse me if I'm obviously wrong, as I haven't been bothered to look it up this morning".
What ?.It was not posted for you and there is the arrogance out again ,
I beg your pardon, Star99, but I have no idea what you're getting at, and there is no need to be quite so rude on a Sunday morning, is there?!
I was asking V a question, based on your initial inquiries, regarding Angels in the bible. I prefaced my initial post with the "unresearched question" bit to excuse me if I was completely unfounded in asking. It's easy enough to google something before one asks, but this morning I didn't feel like it.
Thanks Venetian for you post, must dig out my bible 🙂
What do you mean 'unresearched question' ?
Hiya Star 
I think there's been some crossed wires here. GF was referring to her own Q, not yours. Just meant she was adding another Q into the discussion, but hadn't checked beforehand to confirm what she was saying.:D
Reckon a re-read of the posts will confirm this. You may also like to reconsider your response to GF .....;)
Gorseflower if this is what you meant apologies.That part is now not in your post,just curious but can you delete parts of a post or is it just for moderators,and I am only being curious as sometimes I would submit a post and then its too late to change.:)
As Venetian has said alot of the information in the Old Testament has referances to Angels as in physical form , eg 'an angel appeared' and they were startled.
Looking my New Testament I cannot find any reference to Jesus talking to them or making a reference to them,I have only looked at some of it but if I find it I will post a link for anyone interested.
Hi Star, and thanks for your apology.
From what I remember, you can indeed edit a post yourself, using the edit button at the bottom of your post.
I personally choose only to edit typos, and change the text to clarify context only if it's already been clearly quoted, otherwise it's misleading and can cause more problems than one thinks it solves.
Do post a link when you find one
x
Given the direction this thread has gone, I'm bowing out here. 😮 But as for Jesus talking very many times about physical (i.e. "fallen" angels) I'll just say that you will not find references or cross-references very much in the Bible to this. I think a letter by James however, if I recall, is very specific in the NT. But basically one needs to compare the gospels - I mean what Jesus said - with the Book of Enoch. So one needs in fact the Book of Enoch to hand to make this comparison.
A modern edition of the Book of Enoch, also demonstrating how Jesus so often talked about that book, as did St. Paul and others, is included in this work, if anyone is interested:
The world has inherited a certain image of Jesus - "meek and mild". But if you actually read the gospels, he time and time again confronts evil-doers, calls them by name (and they often try to kill him but he "disappears"), and his three-year mission is partly one of countless confrontations with these people. The gospels are full of these confrontations.
V
Hi Star,
In reply to your original questions, here are those citations, which actually use the word angel, but there are other words too. However, it's late, so this will have to do tonight! :p I've deleted instances of more than one mention per chapter.
Gen 16:07 ¶And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the
Gen 19:01 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate
Gen 21:17 and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto
Gen 22:11 And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said,
Gen 24:07 thy seed will I give this land; he shall send his angel before thee,
Gen 24:40 before whom I walk, will send his angel with thee, and prosper thy
Gen 28:12 and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
Gen 31:11 And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob:
Gen 32:01 And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
Gen 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my
Ex 3:02 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of
Ex 14:19 ¶And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed
Ex 23:20 ¶Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way,
Ex 32:34 behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day
Ex 33:02 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the
Num 20:16 he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth
Num 22:22 and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against
Judg 2:01 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said,
Judg 5:23 Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the Lord, curse ye bitterly the
Judg 6:11 ¶And there came an angel of the Lord, and sat under an oak which was
Judg 13:03 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto the woman, and said unto her,
I Sam 29:09 I know that thou art good in my sight, as an angel of God:
II Sam 14:17 for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and
II Sam 19:27 but my lord the king is as an angel of God: do therefore what is
II Sam 24:16 And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy
I Kings 13:18 and an angel spake unto me by the word of the Lord, saying,
I Kings 19:05 behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise and eat.
II Kings 1:03 But the angel of the Lord said to Elijah the Tishbite, Arise,
II Kings 19:35 ¶And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the Lord went out,
I Chron 21:12 and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the coasts of
II Chron 32:21 ¶And the Lord sent an angel, which cut off all the mighty men of
Job 4:18 put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
Ps 8:05 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast
Ps 34:07 The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him,
Ps 35:05 as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the Lord chase them.
Ps 68:17 even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai,
Ps 78:25 Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.
Ps 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all
Ps 103:20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his
Ps 104:04 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
Ps 148:02 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
Eccl 5:06 to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error:
Isa 37:36 Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the
Isa 63:09 he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them:
Dan 3:28 Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his
Dan 6:22 My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that
Hos 12:04 Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made
Zech 1:09 And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee
Zech 2:03 And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another
Zech 2:03 talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,
Zech 3:01 me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord,
Zech 4:01 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man
Zech 5:05 ¶Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me,
Zech 6:04 Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are
Zech 12:08 house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.
Matt 1:20 behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying,
Matt 2:13 the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying,
Matt 4:06 for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee:
Matt 13:39 the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Matt 16:27 the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
Matt 18:10 That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father
Matt 22:30 nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
Matt 25:31 Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him,
Matt 26:53 and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Matt 28:02 a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven,
Mark 1:13 and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
Mark 8:38 when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Mark 12:25 nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mark 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his
Luke 1:11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the
Luke 2:09 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the
Luke 4:10 is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
Luke 9:26 come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
Luke 12:08 him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
Luke 15:10 there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner
Luke 16:22 the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:
Luke 20:36 for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God,
Luke 22:43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Luke 24:23 they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels,
John 1:51 and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
John 5:04 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and
John 12:29 said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
John 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the
Acts 5:19 But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and
Acts 6:15 stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel.
Acts 7:30 of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.
Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go
Acts 10:03 about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him,
Acts 11:13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood
Acts 12:07 And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined
Acts 23:08 neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.
Acts 27:23 For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am,
Rom 8:38 that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities,
I Cor 4:09 we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
I Cor 6:03 Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
I Cor 11:10 ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
I Cor 13:01 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
II Cor 11:14 no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Gal 1:08 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
Gal 3:19 was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 4:14 nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ
Col 2:18 you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,
II Thess 1:07 the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
I Tim 3:16 justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,
I Tim 5:21 thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels,
Heb 1:04 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance
Heb 2:02 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every
Heb 12:22 the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 13:02 strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
I Pet 1:12 sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
I Pet 3:22 angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
II Pet 2:04 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to
Jude 1:06 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own
Rev 1:01 and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 2:01 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he
Rev 3:01 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith
Rev 5:02 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy
Rev 7:01 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners
Rev 8:02 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were
Rev 9:01 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto
Rev 10:01 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a
Rev 11:01 and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God,
Rev 12:07 was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
Rev 14:06 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the
Rev 15:01 great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues;
Rev 16:01 I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels,
Rev 17:01 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials,
Rev 18:01 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud
Rev 20:01 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the
Rev 21:09 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven
Rev 22:06 and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto
have worked with angels alot lately
I think we can all see where this is going.
star, angels do not "work", with you or with anyone. That is a phrase that New Age money-makers use. I'd advise not to get caught up in it. Work with yourself as it seems needed TBH. Don't get caught up in the idea of unseen beings that you are not sure of at all.
V
Why trust the bible
It never ceases to amaze me at the trust that people place in the bible. All this talk of "what Jesus said" . . . The earliest of the four gospels in the bible was not written until at least 70 years after the death of Jesus - you try and report accurately what somebody said 6 months ago.
The bible, especially the OT, is a book full of contradictions, falsehoods and, quite honestly rubbish. If we were to beleive and follow the teachings held within the bible life would be very different. Instructions to not allow a witch to live, stoning adulterers, keeping clear of women during menstruation because they are unclean, killing ALL your enemies (Moses never got to set foot in the promised land for failing to obey god with this order).
Angels taking on the form of men?
I'm not saying that other spirtual beings don't exist outside of our own perception of the material world, whether you relate to them as angels, fairies or any other name. What I am saying is to think and be real before you use an ancient book, consisting of writings made over many, many years by different people with differing ideas and viewpoints and biases as any foundation for anything.
And yes, I have studied the bible - I was a minister of religion for 8 years, preaching from "the word of god", before I saw the light and realised that spirituality does not come from a book, but from within.
Hi Star,
Working with, learning from and being guided by beings that some call angels can be a perfectly reasonable part of ones journey. I agree with some of the comments above about the bible, but that does not mean there are no angels or that we cannot work with them, or that they cannot help us to advance when the time is right.
If you feel drawn to this then follow your instincts, what you know is right inside is almost certainly the right path to follow.
love
chris
I also wanted to say to Star that it's only someone's opinion that
angels do not "work", with you or with anyone.
No one knows anything for absolute definite. And anyway one man's reality may well be another person's untruth. Please don't let yourself be put down by such didactic comments. Angels are angels, they can do whatever they please! IMVVVHO!
xxx
It's good to hear that you found the light, soundman. Sounds good to me. But:
It never ceases to amaze me at the trust that people place in the bible. All this talk of "what Jesus said" . . . The earliest of the four gospels in the bible was not written until at least 70 years after the death of Jesus
The merely-four canonical gospels (those in the Bible) were not written too early or within Jesus' life, no. But gnostic and excluded gospels may be much earlier. The "Gospel of Peace" so-called, translated by Edmund Szeckely, is almost certainly earlier than the four gospels in the Bible, and they borrowed from it. And even scholars acknowledge that there were ealier gospels, from which three in the Bible borrow.
I'd say people started writing about the life of Jesus very soon after he left this Earth. And the four gospels in the Bible - four out of dozens - borrow from earlier works.
The early church fathers also attested to having received verbal instruction down the line from secret teachings of Jesus, only one or two generations removed from the living diciples: people such as Clement and Origen, who both attest to knowing many of Jesus' teachings not included in any gospel.
Here I am writing this, and just so you know, I am not even Christian in the deemed sense! 🙂
V
I was pointing out that "work with" (angels) is a term virtually exclusively used by New Age money-makers. People who are just after the cash. Therefore I'd keep clear of associating with the term they have invented over the last 15 years.
V
Hi Judy,
Gen 16:07 ¶And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the
Gen 19:01 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate
Gen 21:17 and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto
Gen 22:11 And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said,
Gen 24:07 thy seed will I give this land; he shall send his angel before thee,
Gen 24:40 before whom I walk, will send his angel with thee, and prosper thy
Gen 28:12 and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
Gen 31:11 And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob:
Gen 32:01 And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
Gen 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my
Ex 3:02 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of
Ex 14:19 ¶And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed
Ex 23:20 ¶Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way,
Ex 32:34 behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day
Ex 33:02 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the
Num 20:16 he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth
Num 22:22 and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against
Judg 2:01 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said,
Judg 5:23 Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the Lord, curse ye bitterly the
Judg 6:11 ¶And there came an angel of the Lord, and sat under an oak which was
Judg 13:03 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto the woman, and said unto her,
I Sam 29:09 I know that thou art good in my sight, as an angel of God:
II Sam 14:17 for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and
II Sam 19:27 but my lord the king is as an angel of God: do therefore what is
II Sam 24:16 And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy
I Kings 13:18 and an angel spake unto me by the word of the Lord, saying,
I Kings 19:05 behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise and eat.
II Kings 1:03 But the angel of the Lord said to Elijah the Tishbite, Arise,
II Kings 19:35 ¶And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the Lord went out,
I Chron 21:12 and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the coasts of
II Chron 32:21 ¶And the Lord sent an angel, which cut off all the mighty men of
Job 4:18 put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
Ps 8:05 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast
Ps 34:07 The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him,
Ps 35:05 as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the Lord chase them.
Ps 68:17 even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai,
Ps 78:25 Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.
Ps 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all
Ps 103:20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his
Ps 104:04 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
Ps 148:02 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
Eccl 5:06 to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error:
Isa 37:36 Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the
Isa 63:09 he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them:
Dan 3:28 Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his
Dan 6:22 My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that
Hos 12:04 Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made
Zech 1:09 And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee
Zech 2:03 And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another
Zech 2:03 talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,
Zech 3:01 me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord,
Zech 4:01 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man
Zech 5:05 ¶Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me,
Zech 6:04 Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are
Zech 12:08 house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.
Matt 1:20 behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying,
Matt 2:13 the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying,
Matt 4:06 for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee:
Matt 13:39 the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Matt 16:27 the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
Matt 18:10 That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father
Matt 22:30 nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
Matt 25:31 Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him,
Matt 26:53 and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Matt 28:02 a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven,
Mark 1:13 and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
Mark 8:38 when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Mark 12:25 nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mark 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his
Luke 1:11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the
Luke 2:09 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the
Luke 4:10 is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
Luke 9:26 come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
Luke 12:08 him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
Luke 15:10 there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner
Luke 16:22 the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:
Luke 20:36 for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God,
Luke 22:43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Luke 24:23 they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels,
John 1:51 and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
John 5:04 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and
John 12:29 said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
John 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the
Acts 5:19 But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and
Acts 6:15 stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel.
Acts 7:30 of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.
Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go
Acts 10:03 about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him,
Acts 11:13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood
Acts 12:07 And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined
Acts 23:08 neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.
Acts 27:23 For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am,
Rom 8:38 that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities,
I Cor 4:09 we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
I Cor 6:03 Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
I Cor 11:10 ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
I Cor 13:01 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
II Cor 11:14 no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Gal 1:08 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
Gal 3:19 was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 4:14 nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ
Col 2:18 you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,
II Thess 1:07 the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
I Tim 3:16 justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,
I Tim 5:21 thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels,
Heb 1:04 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance
Heb 2:02 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every
Heb 12:22 the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 13:02 strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
I Pet 1:12 sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
I Pet 3:22 angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
II Pet 2:04 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to
Jude 1:06 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own
Rev 1:01 and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 2:01 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he
Rev 3:01 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith
Rev 5:02 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy
Rev 7:01 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners
Rev 8:02 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were
Rev 9:01 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto
Rev 10:01 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a
Rev 11:01 and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God,
Rev 12:07 was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
Rev 14:06 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the
Rev 15:01 great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues;
Rev 16:01 I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels,
Rev 17:01 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials,
Rev 18:01 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud
Rev 20:01 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the
Rev 21:09 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven
Rev 22:06 and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto
I wonder if you could please be a bit more comprehensive? 😮
That's a joke! I found your completeness quite funny, in a good way! 🙂
V
The "Gospel of Peace" so-called, translated by Edmund Szeckely, is almost certainly earlier than the four gospels in the Bible, and they borrowed from it.
I am never certain of the spelling of his surname, and admit to sometimes being too lazy to check. I always take a kind of guess!
However, mentioning that book - could I just say that the particular copy I own is very precious to me. I lent it to someone a few days back who will read this, and I would sincerely like it back when you are finished? Only when you are. (I'm looking forward to the usual ROFL banter; same re the Christology article. 🙂 )
V
Hi V,
Only answered the question, only answered the question! 😀
Where in the bible are angels mentioned,.
(I actually deleted a whole lot of citations, where angels were mentioned more than once in a Bible chapter!)
By the way Star, I thought you might like to read some of my experiences with the spiritual intuitions I call angels:
Angels - post 2
Safe Flight - post 5 when we had protection the Captain described as a "miracle' after I had prayed with the 91st Psalm from that book that Soundman described as "book full of contradictions, falsehoods and, quite honestly rubbish." :rollaugh:
And by the way Soundman, many Bible scholars have dated the earliest gospel (Mark) from AD55, not 70. But to me, dates don't matter - I've had so many healings and experiences of protection, guidance and supply from the Bible, by taking the truth of the INSPIRED Word (rather than the historical, moral, literal) of the Bible. As Mary Baker Eddy explains:
[COLOR="Blue"]The Scriptures are very sacred. Our aim must be to have them understood spiritually, for only by this understanding can truth be gained. (Science and Health 547)
I looked up how many times she mentions angels for you Star - 120! Here are just a couple:
[COLOR="Blue"]
Angels are not etherealized human beings, evolving animal qualities in their wings; but they are celestial visitants, flying on spiritual, not material, pinions. Angels are pure thoughts from God, winged with Truth and Love, no matter what their individualism may be. Human conjecture confers upon angels its own forms of thought, marked with superstitious outlines, making them human creatures with suggestive feathers; but this is only fancy...
By giving earnest heed to these spiritual guides they tarry with us, and we entertain "angels unawares." (Science and Health 298/9)
ANGELS
When angels visit us, we do not hear the rustle of wings, nor feel the feathery touch of the breast of a dove; but we know their presence by the love they create in our hearts. Oh, may you feel this touch,--it is not the clasping of hands, nor a loved person present; it is more than this: it is a spiritual idea that lights your path! The Psalmist saith: "He shall give His angels charge over thee." God gives you His spiritual ideas, and in turn, they give you daily supplies. Never ask for tomorrow: it is enough that divine Love is an ever-present help; and if you wait, never doubting, you will have all you need every moment. What a glorious inheritance is given to us through the understanding of omnipresent Love! More we cannot ask: more we do not want: more we cannot have. This sweet assurance is the "Peace, be still" to all human fears, to suffering of every sort. (Miscellaneous Writings 306)
Love and peace,
Judy
Only answered the question, only answered the question! 😀
(I actually deleted a whole lot of citations, where angels were mentioned more than once in a Bible chapter!)
!!!! So I guess angels are mentioned in the Bible, then.
Of course sometimes the word used is also not "angel". Sometimes IMHO they are clearly angels being referenced such as the "young men" (obviously heavenly) who were apparently attractive - who'd not be safe in Sodom!
And at Jesus' Ascension, "two men in white apparel" came down to the disciples; there were "men" or a "man in the tomb when it was opened but Jesus wasn't there...
I've had so many healings and experiences of protection, guidance and supply from the Bible, by taking the truth of the INSPIRED Word (rather than the historical, moral, literal) of the Bible.
This last bit is quite off-topic. But this thread mentions the Bible, and what I came across the other day doesn't need a thread of its own. You mention "rather than the ... literal" meaning of the Bible.
And we know we've had people on HP who want to take all the Bible literally....
Now, I basically have always admired the writings of Origen, a church father who lived about 1-2 generations removed from the apostles. From the inner (unwritten) teachings of Jesus, said to have been passed down by word-of-mouth, he learned how allegorical much of Scripture is. But when he began writing on this allegorical nature of some Scripture, he wasn't at first taken too seriously by all - because ...
as a young, but earnest man, he'd read the New Testament words of - I believe it's St. Paul - about "and some men become eunuchs" (to be good Christians). Now, that's evidently Paul not having to hand in the language of the day (?) an obvious term for "celibate". Hm. Well in his younger days, Origen took that line literally, he wanted to be a good Christian, so he .... ouch!! 😮
I had never known that about Origen. But what an example of not taking all the lines of the Bible literally!!
Many such as evangelists insist the Bible is literal word-for-word ... but they seem themselves to hold back on that bit!
V
Hi V,
Only answered the question, only answered the question! 😀
(I actually deleted a whole lot of citations, where angels were mentioned more than once in a Bible chapter!)
By the way Star, I thought you might like to read some of my experiences with the spiritual intuitions I call angels:
Angels - post 2
Safe Flight - post 5 when we had protection the Captain described as a "miracle' after I had prayed with the 91st Psalm from that book that Soundman described as "book full of contradictions, falsehoods and, quite honestly rubbish." :rollaugh:
And by the way Soundman, many Bible scholars have dated the earliest gospel (Mark) from AD55, not 70. But to me, dates don't matter - I've had so many healings and experiences of protection, guidance and supply from the Bible, by taking the truth of the INSPIRED Word (rather than the historical, moral, literal) of the Bible. As Mary Baker Eddy explains:
The Scriptures are very sacred. Our aim must be to have them understood spiritually, for only by this understanding can truth be gained. (Science and Health 547)
I looked up how many times she mentions angels for you Star - 120! Here are just a couple:
Angels are not etherealized human beings, evolving animal qualities in their wings; but they are celestial visitants, flying on spiritual, not material, pinions. Angels are pure thoughts from God, winged with Truth and Love, no matter what their individualism may be. Human conjecture confers upon angels its own forms of thought, marked with superstitious outlines, making them human creatures with suggestive feathers; but this is only fancy...
By giving earnest heed to these spiritual guides they tarry with us, and we entertain "angels unawares." (Science and Health 298/9)
ANGELS
When angels visit us, we do not hear the rustle of wings, nor feel the feathery touch of the breast of a dove; but we know their presence by the love they create in our hearts. Oh, may you feel this touch,--it is not the clasping of hands, nor a loved person present; it is more than this: it is a spiritual idea that lights your path! The Psalmist saith: "He shall give His angels charge over thee." God gives you His spiritual ideas, and in turn, they give you daily supplies. Never ask for tomorrow: it is enough that divine Love is an ever-present help; and if you wait, never doubting, you will have all you need every moment. What a glorious inheritance is given to us through the understanding of omnipresent Love! More we cannot ask: more we do not want: more we cannot have. This sweet assurance is the "Peace, be still" to all human fears, to suffering of every sort. (Miscellaneous Writings 306)
Love and peace,
Judy
Thanks Judy, I have sent you a pm xx
It just occurred to me, star99. This isn't the Bible, but the best book on angels I've read is "Angels In My Hair" by Lorna Byrne. I started a thread on it about 18 months ago -
It's not a technical kind of book, but angels are such a real, on-going experience for her, that book I found most insightful. It's as if she was born with the mission to make it clear what angels are like.
V
Interesting about Origen V! Thanks! 😀
I'm not at home right now Star, but I've got more on Angels which is fascinating and will post when I have time.
Love and peace,
Judy
I was pointing out that "work with" (angels) is a term virtually exclusively used by New Age money-makers. People who are just after the cash. Therefore I'd keep clear of associating with the term they have invented over the last 15 years.
V
I think, David, that many of the newer, searching individuals have difficulty discerning what it "true" about developing spirituality and what is marketing. As they become acquainted with the possibilities they accept some of the terminology that they hear and their experience seems to fit with the picture described.
It is then easy to become inflated by that "special" feeling and further discernment falls by the wayside. If they continue the searching, rather than assuming they have reached the pinnacle, they will adjust their thinking to see that no one is elevated over another.
I see the "working with the angels" as a natural phase; a part of spiritual progression.
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Hello everyone
Just to let you all know that, in the light of replies here and discussion by the moderators, this thread has now been moved over to the Christianity forum.
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