what do you think of staffordshire bull terriers ?

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we gotstaffiepuppies:)born 16/10 they now three weeks old and great we had 6 we are keeping slim the biggest he is white and brown with blue eyes, all the others we have homes for had them well before they were born checked them out and they have all paid for them the day they were born and i will get to see them everyday all parents from my daughters school brilliant. and as for these people that are to good to have their dogs on a lead in public <you know who you all are> well if your dog gets bit then its your own fault PUT IT ON A LEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was out with biggy and scrappy the other day and some jumped up so and so with a border collie off the lead< and it wasnt a small one either>, hackles up growling,comes straight over and shes not even caring , my biggy is scared stiff of other dogs <except his family > he was bitten by his mother at 6 weeks old,and has scar down his nostril to his lip <looks like hes smiling>i asked her politely to put her dog on a lead and she said why should she , she walks her dog in the park everyday with out a lead and why should she start now was her reply to which i promptly told her that its idiots like her that spoil it for everyone and their dogs, so take note biggy could have been a dog that doesnt tollerate other dogs and the consiquences could have been terrible . so there you have it staffies are not all nasty just the owners that teach them to be, and as for border collies never been keen but for the sake of a lead i wouldnt have been so scared for my dog .#
please think about others you peaple that refuse to put a lead on your dog or better still think about other peoples dogs they might be scared .
now havent been able to get biggy out of the door since keep trying though

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We have a 10 month old, blue brindle,american staffordshire bull terrier,named zeus(30kg),heis an awesome dog but has been a challenge as Staffies are notorious for being stubborn but with aLOT of perseverance and patience we have got the better of him.He is very affectionate and great with kids.I will admit that he is not a big fan of Cats(hasn't got a hold ofone)but that is not unusual for dogs in general,he gets pretty excited around other dogs, just wants to play. The one thing that is really frustrating,is the amount of owners who let their dogs run around off the lead,not a problem, if you have total control of your dog(ie. will not leave your side and will return on command immediately)?but the majority come hurtling up to you,this can only be confusing for your dog, that is on the lead and quite intimidating(must feel vunerable).We do not let our dog off the lead, if anything did happen we would more than likely get the blame, because of his breed.Our society still seems to have a propensity to steriotype,right across the board,on all matters,but hey thats life.We are happy with our life/dog and at the end of the day"you are the master of our own destiny",let the pessimists and moaners vent their spleens,I wont loose any sleep over it.

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I don't like the way that many peole see staffies as an image-boosterthese days. I think there are some really irresponsible owners who frankly have staffies for entirely the wrong reasons. Our neighbours have a rescued staffy who is adorable and very good natured. Sadly, because of poor ownership, some staffies aren't so reliable.............

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I got bitten by a young staffi. I was minding my own business riding my bike and the dog wasn't on a lead. It bit me on the foot while the owner just stood there like an idiot. I spent four hours in casualty and still have the teethmarks two years later. I don't blame the dog though, the idiot owner should have had it on a lead.

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I've avery largeLH GSD. Sherringham has seen pics of her. As has been said about other dogs, people cross the road when they see us coming. I've never had any problem with staffies. I've had friends that have had them and currently got them, no trouble at all & all around children. Some dogshaven't got on well with pippa but then she will bark at some dogs occasionally, the play bows! The worst type of dog owner I've tended to have found on our walks is the tiny fluffy doggy owner that sees me and the big fluffy gsd trundling along and they will scoop the dog up as if pippa is going to eat it! passing commenting that she might be viscous when she is just minding her own business walking quietly!

When we were out once in our local parka jack russell terriernipped pippa on her hind leg and the owner of the dog had the cheek to tell ME to control MY dog! Pippa was most upset and ran behind me! What a wuss for a ex police dog. No wonder she got threw out!

As everyone has said, it's the humans that need retraining. Puppies and dogs will grow up as human's treat them. Be nice but strictto them and you'll be rewarded with good behaviour.

picture below of pippa with my son and his friends.

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first of all i must reply to orange blossem..my dear i would walk past you with my 2 staffies and they wouldnt even notice you or your dog...they are too interested in finding a big stick..on the other hand i am aware of other dogs whilst out walking mine and am always on my gaurd, not that mine would attack, but others have come up to mine and attacked one example...we were walking zack {the daddy} he was off his lead, minding his own business, when this little lap dog came up to him yapping and nipping at my dog so i put zack back on his lead...the owner of the other dog didnt put his on the lead and left it to carry on going at my dog...i told the man if you dont put yours on a lead i will loose mine off his..he played his mouth abit and didnt do as i requested, i walked away with this dog still nipping at my zack, so i loosed him off his lead at that the man picked his dog up in his arms zack jumped up grabbed this dog out the mans arms and just pinned him to the floor, he didnt bite him just pinned him there for a while...i then put him back on his lead and walked away to the sound of this lap dog yapping at other dogs...oh i love all bully breeds be they staffies american pitbull terriers american staffs or any other bull breed..wouldnt consider anything else...their eagernessto please their owners has been their downfall, when some idiot has them as an extentionof their manhood..take away their pittie and they are nothing...
in temperament tests they rate higher than golden retrivers, collies, and cocker spanials all of which arethe popular choices of breeds for families. hmmm..

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ORIGINAL: caringsoul

A friend of mine rescues daily from a death row dogpound and every day the list contains many staffies and yet she says as a breed they love people. The only problem when they do fight is that their jaws lock!!. I agree there are bad owners not bad dogs.
She has a lovely staffi bitch, very friendly.
I think any dog has the potential to bite or fightand they all should be respected, all breeds.

did you know that a staffies jaws do not lock... no more than any other breed

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ORIGINAL: staffilover

ORIGINAL: caringsoul

A friend of mine rescues daily from a death row dogpound and every day the list contains many staffies and yet she says as a breed they love people. The only problem when they do fight is that their jaws lock!!. I agree there are bad owners not bad dogs.
She has a lovely staffi bitch, very friendly.
I think any dog has the potential to bite or fightand they all should be respected, all breeds.

did you know that a staffies jaws do not lock... no more than any other breed

this is quite true the stafford does have very strong jaws but they DO NOT lock! in fact lb's per square inch the labrador has a stronger bite! "not a lot of people know dat!" lol

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Yeah, staffie's have a good strong jaw, Sasha (Staffy X Rhodesian) is always breaking her toys or other stuff in the garden, she's an unusual character, some of the funny stunts she gets up to are just plain weird, at times.

I've had Sasha since she was 5 weeks old, Staffie's have had a bad rep from the press, but most of the time, it's not actually staffie, it's "american pit's" that are the problem, however there have been cases of staffie's hurting people. My view is that it is not "the way the dog is" more "how the dog has been treated" & "how the dog was raised". We had 2 Staffie X Rhodesians, both arewere as soft as putty, very loveable pets.

We have sadly lost one of our dogs today, Danny. Sasha, the other Staffie, already knows something is wrong, she won't go near him (Danny is the runt from her first litter of pups).

In response to Lizzie comments[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=312020&mpage=2&key=#377400 ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=312020&mpage=2&key=#377400[/link]aboutintegrating staffie's 'n cats, we have always had cats and dogs in the same house at the same time. We had a ferral cat up until a while ago,our dogsalways got on brilliantly with the cat, they even used to play Tag (Chase) in the garden & in the house, crazy animals.

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hi,
i am the very proud owner of a 3 yr old male staffy, i have 4 children in the house, one just a year old, my dog is the sweetest natured dog you could ever meet, in fact i dont think he would be agressive even if he needed to be, he is very boisterous though, i wish i could stop him jumping up at visitors etc, but i think that is just poor trtaining on my part, most of the dogs in the media have been mistreated etc, its a real shame as i know what you mean about crossing the road etc....makes me angry as when we walk our dog there is my husband, myself and 4 children, do they really think we would have a vicious dog near the kids, may i also say, good thread, about time staffs got the praise the so rightfully deserve, love clare xxxx

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Oh my god, you would not get a softer dog then my staffy jessa, she is 12 now, she is scared of cats and runs away, not that that's a good thing but it shows they are not the vicious beasts people tend to think, there is also a staffy that lives near me and she is soft as heck also, my jessa was tormented to make her harder by a past owner but it just made her softer, l never planned to have a staffy she was dumped on me but l am so glad l did as they are a great breed.

hey, i've basically purely become a member of this site to express my views regarding an advert i saw today. It was advertising the panorama program and it was questioning why dogs that are bred to kill are allowed to be out on our streets etc.i'm only 16, but am completely aware of many situations regarding staffordshire bull terriors and other breeds similar to this.

i have worked in my spare time with a dog trainer and as well as owning dogs ranging from spaniels, to great danes, staffs rottweilers and currently a rhodesian ridgeback. I additionally worked in a dog kennel, so i obviously was working with and walking a wide range of dogs.
In all im completley disgusted at the way staffs are portrayed, and i hope to god that this panorama program emphasises the extra effort people need to make when selling staffs, or owning them.That its the owners that make the dog. Otherwise if they suggest otherwise i would not be suprised if they try to wipe out the staff breed. Its like drug addicts, if they were to wipe out, (which would obviously be impossible) a drug, the addicts addicted to that dog, will just choose an alternative drug.
Staffs are not more of a threat than any other dog. My rhodesian ridgeback is obviously alot larger than a staff. The bred comes from africa and are bred to hunt lions. The strength and sped in my dog is precise to be in a situation involved with a strong animal such as a lion. So imagine what its basically capable of. there is a man near me who owns three in a flat, three males and one bitch. the males fight over the bitch and tear eachother to pieces, additionally with so many males the bitch is constantly pregnant. i worries me not only he situation these dogs live in, and the threat they do cause to other poeple being the way they are, but the puppies being bred will probably be irresbonsibly sold, and the same will be occuring elsewhere.

If somebody chosses to buy anydog, i think they should have experience, or at least have researched that breed or other breeds to see which would be more suited to their lifestyle and additionally what the dog they plan on buying ids origionally bred for.This will portray their tempermant and behaviour and will help the owner to be manage the dog correctly.

we got my dog trained staright away, i am 7.5 stone and he is 10. he could drag me anywhere but he is so well behaved and extremely well known in my area. We have four cats of wich he is scaredc of and i have a new born and a two year old. Dogs are not stupid, they can sense fear or any change in the atmosphere.
I appreciate that any dog including all the dogs i have had could have turned at any possible moment however this would not have been presented in their every day behaviour and tempermant.

I am afraid to say that any dog is capable of behaving the way the media presents staffs to be. Staffs are the most popular bred in dog fighting because their build is most suited to this kind of activity.(disgusting activty)
German shepards are fast and can rip somebodty to shreds, their used by the police force which i guess makes them respected, this does however just prove to anyone naive, that an alternative breed can be just as malicious.
my first instance when i was aware of a staffs reputation was when a police man questioned why my staff bella was not muzzled, i laugfhed cause she was so loving and socialble i though, you can jusut see how lovely she is look at her.
but a few years later i was asked again when i was working at the kennels. My reply this time was, 'do you have a dog?' he replied yes, he owned his working german shepard out of work hours, i told him that he had as much to be worried about as i did then. i didnt say it cheekily but i think he was more concerned about what other people would think about this dog rather than what she could do. i agreed to keep her on a leash but was still aware of how im never approached with any other dog i have had.

i know im rabbling but im so mad and i appreciate many people say 'i wish there was more i could do' but there is alot more.

i plan on starting with a petition at school but i feel the government and police force could take alot more action in preventig the irresponsible selling or ownership of breeds such as a staff and see howthis approach works.i feel more police should be out looking for areas where dog fighting takes place rather than waiting for it to be reported. anybody who sees staffs being sold in pet shops should report it immediatley and any breed known to be involved in dog fighting should be responsibly sold. I.e. have knowledge of the breed, have time for the dog(basically a background check) or even have experience with such a breed. i saw an earlier posting on the forum where someone thought their neighbours dogs were used for fighting, i cant see any logical reason as to why this person did not report this. if the lazy and easy route is tken out and all breeds involved in dog fighting are wiped out, this will be a repetitive cycle cause these sick people wont stop. the punishment is hardly ever even inprisonment.

Children learn from their elders, dogs are the same and will learn as we teach them, behave as we allow them, and no right from wrong as we show it to them. its ludicrus to blame the pets for their behaviour when they were taught to behave in such a way.

i have completley over rambled here, but i needed to get this off my chest. If anybody knows of anyway in which i could make an active effort to make a difference.

i basically mean from this whole speech that dogs that have naturally evolved or been bred to have a optimum fighting attributes should not be banned, but merely get specialist treatment. i.e. owners who have the time, commitment and love to bring these dogs up correctly.

my, that was aloottt sorry!

Hi everyone I'd just like to say I have 3 pure bred Staffs (1 male 2 females) & they are affectionate to our other dogs, the cat & the rabbit, we have a lot of visitors & they are always friendly towards everyone, love kids & are soft and playful, Any dog be it big or small or of any breed can be aggressive it's plainly how they have been raised & trained, yes they are known as a lock jaw dog as once they bite down on something they stick there as they were bred to not let go (even though they don't actually lock jaw) I have a dobie cross too which is as soft as butter, and I'd have rotties or pitts if I could as you just need to respect these dogs attitudes to beable to put into force the right training (we have a take no s**t policy) which so far seems to be working, we do mummy them now & then but who doesn't.... The other thing I'd like to add is no matter what breed of dog or how long you have had it for keep it on a lead while out in public & out the way if small children come to visit unless with them at all times, some of these incidents have been while the kids have been left alone with dogs that are of an aggressive nature or do not know them, I said before we have kiddies play with out dogs when they visit but never ever alone it's just not worth taking the chance with any dog, I know it sounds a bit dramatic but it's just my opinion, thanks for listening xx My nutty Staffs lol...... :dogrun: