New Puppy - All advice welcome

Recommend you go to and read about everything that my hero does with puppies!

I have a ten year old border collie, generally well behaved, but after watching two Dog Whisperer programmes, and initiating a couple of his recommendations, she is completely cured of pulling on the lead and annoying the postman!! It took less than 2 minutes to cure her of both 'problems'. I also do lots of home visits, and some clients have some pretty 'dodgy' dogs - however, being calm and submissive, having no eye contact (with the dogs, I hasten to add!) nor talking to them nor touching them gets me into the homes in seconds as opposed to heavy negotiation and much shouting from the front doors!!!

Oh - and she's beautiful - Molly, I mean!

What a darling 🙂

If someone is interesting read about dogs here is my list:
Turid Rugaas with dog signals:
[DLMURL] http://www.canis.no/rugaas/ [/DLMURL]
Turid Rugaas have written book name what do I do... when my dog pulls? and calming signals.

Pamela Dennison's book name the complete idiot's guide to positive dog training.

Patricia B. McConnell: The other end of the leash.

Morten Egtvedt & Cecilie Koste clicker training for dog (I am not sure about the english name)

If you can get Tuire Kaimios puppy book on your hands that is also very good book. Name in english is Raising a puppy, scientific dog psychology. She has also wrote book name dog behaviour.

They open amazing, new world for you and your dog. They are miracle workers with dogs :).

Recommend you go to and read about everything that my hero does with puppies!

Cecars way is not my way. He forced dogs to do things at using physically power and I do not believe forcing.

Can't offer you any tips but she is gorgeous!!

Hi susanna not & Molly

Your Molly is beautiful. Have you considered going to puppy training classes?

I think you only go to them once a week and they cost about five pounds per session. This is what I was told by a dog owner. The lady was glad she went.

Molly will also meet other dogs there. Just a thought...

🙂 x ( x for Molly)

Hi Susanna not

I have to totally agree with Jabba the hut. Cesar Milan is very good. I have read two of his books. Which were very informative. I have also watched quite a few his dog whisper programmes on tv. You can see he has a great love of dogs. He cares for his dogs very deeply. My family have learnt so much from him.🙂

Good luck with Molly, she is lovely

Sunrise

Cecars way is not my way. He forced dogs to do things at using physically power and I do not believe forcing.

I must have been watching an entirely different programme for the past 18 months. I have never seen him use physical 'power' - it is all done by fingertip touch, to infer a 'bite' from another dog ONLY when it is needed - but mainly sound, to divert the dogs attention.

Thank you all very much for your advice, I will take a look at this programme. Yes she does look sweet but in that little head........... she is a mixture of jack russel and beagle does anyone know if either of those breeds are prone to poo eating!!!!!!!!!!! Just a little treat for us this morning, we thought she'd bought in a lump of wood to chew on!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,

I've adopted an adult dog (5-7yrs) from Dogs Trust in Harefield last November. I used Cesar's training methods on Rex and now he's moved from a depressed dog to a happy little man. I had to flip him into a submissive roll to stop a possible explosive situation from happening which at the time seemed extreme, but it worked. Rex was sent the signal "I'm the alpha and I won't stand for this out of control behaviour". I've been around dogs all my life and the main mistake we make is putting human psychology onto dogs. Rex knows his place and is happy and contented that he has a strong pack leader to follow. Dogs read energy just like Cesar says so you have to be consistent and calm all the way through training.

I would advise you to read up on Jack Russell behaviour as they can have some funny ways. Terriers can be possessive, excitable, energetic (lots of exercise) and territorial.

Have fun. Sue

I must have been watching an entirely different programme for the past 18 months. I have never seen him use physical 'power' - it is all done by fingertip touch, to infer a 'bite' from another dog ONLY when it is needed - but mainly sound, to divert the dogs attention.

Even if you blow to your dogs nose at the wrong place that is using physical power.

I watched his videos from his homepage where he trained dogs and read one of his book. That was enough for me to make sure his methods not fit for me or my dogs.

When dog is leash and human forced dog to go to place what dog scared, it happend by using physical power and it is also forced. Especially when dog is scared and there is possibility the dog may hurt itself if it fall down. Dog was stressed and under pressure, it drool and breath too fast. That was one example of cecars methods. He has done also much worse than that.

Cecars methods are methods which I do not want to use. If you do not see there nothing wrong that is your opinion. Maybe after if you look at another methods which are available to insolve same situations you can also see to difference between of forcing and non-forcing and using physical power and not using it.

It is enough for me that I know the difference between those things. This is also subject which I likely talk but on my own language because my language skills are not good enough to using right terms to show crystal clearly by using academic language what I mean. I also make my degree on this subject so if you want to learn new languages I may tell you what I mean.

Hi Susanna not and Molly.

Molly is just adorable. What a very pretty girl.

I have a 16 week old whippet. So the advice I have is based on what I've learnt with my Pip. She is my first puppy, well mine and hubby's 😉 , previous puppies I've had contact with were when I was a teen and the pups were my parents.

Toilet training. - Take her out regularly, every hour, after playing, big drinks, food. If she wee/poo's outside, make a real big deal and tell her how good she is and clever, and offer her a treat as a reward. If she has an accident indoors, just quietly clear it away and don't talk to her. She'll soon get the idea that if she does it outside she'll get a treat and not when she does it inside. My Pip rarely has an accident in the house and when she has its usually because I haven't reacted to her asking to go out quick enough. Just be aware toilet training is going to take a long time, before she will consistantly hold it until you take her out. They only have little bladders, bless them.

Eating Poo - Pip was doing that too, I think a lot of puppies go through this disgusting habit. When Pip does it I raise my voice a little and say "Accck No!". She doesn't do it so much now and if she thinks about it she looks at me first to see if I'm going to approve or not. Worst case, I think you can get something from the vet that will make it taste nasty, but its probably better to get it picked up and disposed of quick before she gets hold of it.

Snapping at faces - I'm still getting to grips with this one myself. Pip generally goes for my hair and bit my ear the other day leaving a nice toothy tear (those needle teeth!). Again, I'm trying the "Acck No!" method, but I am then not quite following it up as I like to play with her, but I really shouldn't be playing rough and tumble so its my own fault really. I'm learning slowly lol. Another suggestion for the snapping at faces is to "work" her socks off. Make her learn; sit, down, etc in reward for treats, then she'll be too tired to bite. I'm trying this too. Pip loves her lessons. 🙂

Good Luck

L&L
Meadowsweet

P.s Please let me know how you get on, if I find anything specific that works I will let you know.

Lots of good advice here generally, though I cannot comment on Cesar's methods, simply because I know nothing of them, other than he's famous for them.

When I have more time I'll return to this thread with some suggestions of my own, but for now I feel I must just comment on this, from meadowsweet:

Another suggestion for the snapping at faces is to "work" her socks off. Make her learn; sit, down, etc in reward for treats, then she'll be too tired to bite. I'm trying this too. Pip loves her lessons. 🙂

and must respecfully say that I totally disagree with this. If a puppy is too tired to bite, then it has been reduced to a point of exhaustion, and I'm sorry but I cannot call this ''work'' anything other than bad treatment if overdone to that degree. Treats for getting it right are fine.

Preceded by, which was OK:

Snapping at faces - I'm still getting to grips with this one myself. Pip generally goes for my hair and bit my ear the other day leaving a nice toothy tear (those needle teeth!). Again, I'm trying the "Acck No!" method, but I am then not quite following it up as I like to play with her, but I really shouldn't be playing rough and tumble so its my own fault really.

if perhaps a little inconsistent, if you're going to rough-house with a puppy. My own way, which others may not agree with at all, has always been a not-too-hard tap on the nose, combined with ''No!'', and I've reared many puppies in my time - mainly terriers - who've learned quickly not to bite me, and NOT grown up unhappy or repressed as a result.

HTH and no offence is taken by my views 🙂

Holistic

Hi everyone,

I have had many dogs as puppies to start with, when I was growing up..and what tends to get bigger and consitant results were ...rewarding with treats, lots of verbal/tone appraisals ..."GOOOOOD Boy!" ..etc and plenty of exercise daily...

We trained them to do alot of movements, actions, and kept them occupied..whenever we're around..I remember those puppies loving all the little lessons..they almost looked board and sad when we weren't !!

Eye contact when you mean business and avoiding eye contact once you have given your command (with raised voice pitch to show your disapproval) is so important ..I guess I agree with someone who mentioned about letting them know who the Alpha Dog is ..

Make sure you and both your husband teach little Molly the same things, and stay Consistant..they will see right through you...to work out who they can get away with...Do avoid sending mixed messages to her...Stand united as her "parents" with your partner ..

With warm wishes to you and Molly 🙂

Vathani

Hmmmm.... not offended as such but thought I would respond.

and must respecfully say that I totally disagree with this. If a puppy is too tired to bite, then it has been reduced to a point of exhaustion, and I'm sorry but I cannot call this ''work'' anything other than bad treatment if overdone to that degree. Treats for getting it right are fine.

Pip is never exhausted by being "worked", I give her lessons in small 10 minute doses a number of times a day, then she'll hurtle around like a nutter play killing a teddy or two and then have a nap to process the information of the day. My point was to keep the puppy occupied with other things than biting. Pip enjoys being worked and she loves the attention, in no way would I consider this treatment bad! OK maybe I am a little offended by the comment made.

if perhaps a little inconsistent, if you're going to rough-house with a puppy. My own way, which others may not agree with at all, has always been a not-too-hard tap on the nose, combined with ''No!'', and I've reared many puppies in my time - mainly terriers - who've learned quickly not to bite me, and NOT grown up unhappy or repressed as a result.

Yes, I have been inconsistant, and I feely admit that I'm still learning. I have actually stopped playing rough and tumble because I'm the one who bares the teeth marks from her over excitement. I'm now playing fetch with her toy til she takes it to bed. Then I know she's had enough. This is certainly lowering the biting moments, its a work in progress.

Regards tapping the nose, I've tried that and it hasn't worked, using this method only made her worse. Only my experience of course, every dog and owner is different. When Pip does go to bite me now, I stand up tall over her and say "Acck No.... sit....", once she sits I tell her she's a good girl and then I slide her toy across the floor to play.

I am still learning and you have to make mistakes in order to learn. Pip is a very good intelligent puppy and I other than the biting which she does when she gets over excited, she is a very happy puppy.

L&L

I'm sorry if you felt offended, meadowsweet, but I was only responding to what you had written earlier. I'm not going to re-quote your exact words in a box again, but it read that the puppy should be worked until too tired to bite. That was what I disagreed with.

Now you've painted a fuller picture:

I give her lessons in small 10 minute doses a number of times a day, then she'll hurtle around like a nutter play killing a teddy or two and then have a nap to process the information of the day.

Ah, well that's very different from what you said before. 😉 Nothing wrong with any of that ... typical puppy behaviour 🙂 :dogrun:

Holistic

I guess I just didn't explain what I meant in enough detail.

I am mean and horrible to her each evening though, as I always wake her up just before I go to bed to take her out for a last wee. Now how cruel am I? 😉

Hi

Firstly - What a cutie

Secondly - I advise Jan Fennells book The dog listener. You will find no harsh methods in the book. It uses the dogs own language to blitz them with signals so that you can convince your dog you are the leader and your dog will become your best friend and WANT to do things you ask because he has chosen to work with and not been forced to do anything.

I am also a qualified dog listener so i know it works :o)

Debs

I'm no expert, but.

When the pup bites you, yelp "ouch" quite loudly (more high pitch than a shout) and turn your back on them, it may help you. The reason some people have problems with their pooches is because they treat them like babies or aren't consistent with them. A dog will treat you with respect if it has boundaries. What a little cuttie though!! But give me cats anyday lol..:027: as for the pooh thing.....god knows! Good luck x