We know that everything is energy in one form or another. Every thought; every feeling; every word and every action on this planet gives off energy - either positive or negative - light or darkness. When you consider recent (recorded) history you can imagine the darkness we are all surrounded by.
Whatever star, planet, galaxy or universe you are from, we are here to become channels for the beautiful light from those places.
To be a good channel we should hold no strong opinions, be in harmony as much as possible, and above all be happy to serve those of our spiritual (non-physical) group/family who are always behind us.
All of this means very hard WORK on ourselves. We are not here to try to be 'top of the tree' or attract any kind of ego trip.
Believe it or not this was the plan when we incarnated and how many of us are following what deep down we should know?
Whatever star, planet, galaxy or universe you are from, we are here to become channels for the beautiful light from those places.
To be a good channel we should hold no strong opinions, be in harmony as much as possible, and above all be happy to serve those of our spiritual (non-physical) group/family who are always behind us.
All of this means very hard WORK on ourselves. We are not here to try to be 'top of the tree' or attract any kind of ego trip.
Believe it or not this was the plan when we incarnated and how many of us are following what deep down we should know?
Hi Welcome here.
You are right, every thought, word, action has energy.
The light ffom other galaxies is not needed to bring peace and harmony. That only comes from one place-within your own heart.
There is enough liight here, or we won't be here. This beautifull creation is full of goodness. Each heart is pure love, just covered and concealed by agendas of the persona. What is in the entire universe is hidden within this human form too. The two are not two-only one.
To be in harmany is not through trying, that is an imposition, a mask, but deep down dis-harmony continues....now that is hard work.
If one sets out hard tasks for themselves then whole life becomes hard, joy gets sucked out by sheer effort. One can only share what you have within.
Life is to live and what else?
There is a creational force that works perfectly, before we were here after we will be long gone.
This question is like asking what is the purpose of a children's game? Nothing . It is spontaneous, purposeless, playful.
With in our lives, we feel oblidged to give it some purpose-and that is ok. but life is living you. The game is playing you...and beautifully too
Hi astrolandrea
We know that everything is energy in one form or another. Every thought; every feeling; every word and every action on this planet gives off energy - either positive or negative - light or darkness. When you consider recent (recorded) history you can imagine the darkness we are all surrounded by.
Have you ever considered that what is, is neither positive or negative, nor light or darkness, it just is.
Whatever star, planet, galaxy or universe you are from, we are here to become channels for the beautiful light from those places.
Personally I do not consider that I came from a physical planet or galaxy etc, as if I had then it would have taken me longer than one life span to travel here, personally I perceive myself as coming from the oneness of consciousness, where all is one, and as consciousnesses is not physical, then as a being of pure consciousness I would not have physical eyes to perceive light and darkness, which is one of the reasons that I chose to come here and gaze at sunrises and sun sets etc. 🙂
To be a good channel we should hold no strong opinions, be in harmony as much as possible, and above all be happy to serve those of our spiritual (non-physical) group/family who are always behind us.
Yet positive and negative, light and darkness, creates inner divisional conflicts within the fullness of self, which robs us of our harmony and wholeness.
When all is one, then who is there that is higher that needs to be served as a channel or who is lower that would require to be in service as a channel? Both concepts create division and separateness which would destroy harmony, wholeness and the oneness.
All of this means very hard WORK on ourselves. We are not here to try to be 'top of the tree' or attract any kind of ego trip.
To my understanding the hardest thing we need to learn is to replace our divisional judgemental core way of being with acceptance of the wholeness of everything which is the oneness, in the oneness all is one, there is no right or wrong, good or bad, light or dark, higher or lower as the oneness is not formed from judgement, it is formed from acceptance.
To perceive ourselves as greater will create division just the same as perceiving ourselves as lesser, all is one. 😉
Believe it or not this was the plan when we incarnated and how many of us are following what deep down we should know?
That is your understanding which you are welcome to embrace, to my understanding it is a lot simpler than that, we simply come here to experience a physical life experience that allows us to get a sense of what it is to be separate from the oneness of everything, whilst being able to express and feel that which are physical bodies can create for us. 🙂
Personally I do not consider that I came from a physical planet or galaxy etc, as if I had then it would have taken me longer than one life span to travel here, personally I perceive myself as coming from the oneness of consciousness, where all is one, and as consciousnesses is not physical, then as a being of pure consciousness I would not have physical eyes to perceive light and darkness, which is one of the reasons that I chose to come here and gaze at sunrises and sun sets etc. 🙂
Paul, if you perceive yourself as coming from the non-physical oneness of consciousness (where you wouldn't have physical eyes with which to perceive light and darkness), then what non-physical, pure-consciousness instrument did you choose to come here with - so as to gaze at sunrises and sun-sets etc?
Hi Wildstrawberry
Paul, if you perceive yourself as coming from the non-physical oneness of consciousness (where you wouldn't have physical eyes with which to perceive light and darkness), then what non-physical, pure-consciousness instrument did you choose to come here with - so as to gaze at sunrises and sun-sets etc?
A good question. 🙂
The awareness of everything within the oneness of consciousness perceives this playground of physical sensations, our consciousness has simply chosen to experience and express self in a different way.
To be a good channel we should hold no strong opinions, be in harmony as much as possible, and above all be happy to serve those of our spiritual (non-physical) group/family who are always behind us.
Seems to me that you are holding some strong opinions yourself, here.
You have no way of knowing what my plans were when I incarnated, or even if I have any.
I must admit to being a very practical person, my everyday life requires me to make choices and decisions. Because of this Paul's 'one-ness' leaves me cold - I cannot apply his thinking to my life but he is as entitled to his ideas as I am to mine.
Crowan - this is my considered philosophy after 32 years of seeking answers - it is not the kind of 'opinion' I am talking about. Such opinions are attitudes of mind towards things like politics, religion, racism etc.
Crowan - this is my considered philosophy after 32 years of seeking answers - it is not the kind of 'opinion' I am talking about. Such opinions are attitudes of mind towards things like politics, religion, racism etc.
Fine, but it is still strong opinion, and not everyone who disagrees with you will be wrong.
Are you really saying that you have no opinions about racism?
Hi astrolandia
I must admit to being a very practical person, my everyday life requires me to make choices and decisions. Because of this Paul's 'one-ness' leaves me cold - I cannot apply his thinking to my life but he is as entitled to his ideas as I am to mine.
I do not follow your reasoning, I am also a very practical person who makes conscious choices and decisions all of the time, is it not the same for all conscious beings?
Fine, but it is still strong opinion, and not everyone who disagrees with you will be wrong.
Are you really saying that you have no opinions about racism?
I totally accept that there will be many who disagree with me but surely this is what forums are about.
I have no strong feelings about a person's race but I have heard many racist remarks when living amongst several mixed races, so racism is rife amongst all communities.
What I am trying to say, seemingly badly, is that I try not to have any strong feelings or opinions that would make me go to extremes.
I am seeking harmony in my life and it has to begin with myself and my attitudes.
To Paul I would say that surely we have to live our philosophies. We have to test them out in daily life. Yet, try as I might, I cannot see how 'one-ness' can be applied to our decisions and choices and indeed in our relationships with others.
Hello Astrolandrea
Welcome to HP:)
This part of your post seemed to to provoke a thought.
how many of us are following what deep down we should know?
My initial thought is that this could be harder than people would like. If people had a depth of knowing what they want, the reason for their incarnation and the reality of trying to obtain a way to achieve that knowing to follow would this lead to failure?.
Trying to follow what they feel inside in the external world we live in would we expect alienation from society upon that person deciding to follow that something within?.
I agree this would certainly take some work and if believed would like to ask for some spiritual assistance above.
I would be interested how you feel people could follow what they feel inside? how do they achieve this within the environment they live in.What work would people have to do in order to feel that they are somehow following leading to a sense of contentment and harmony.
Your experiences and openess most welcome.:)
Blessings
Sacrel
Hi astrolandrea
To Paul I would say that surely we have to live our philosophies. We have to test them out in daily life. Yet, try as I might, I cannot see how 'one-ness' can be applied to our decisions and choices and indeed in our relationships with others.
It is very simple, we all have a physical body that has many systems that perform different functions, but every body starts as one cell, so although the different systems of the body perform different functions, it remains one body that is formed from one cell.
I am not really into science, but I am sure those with more scientific understanding than I have will explain that all of the physical energy is one and interconnected.
We have more than one aspect of consciousness, but the different aspects arise from one consciousness, but they perform different functions, much the same as every cell within our body is one but they perform different functions.
Within the oneness of consciousness all beings of consciousness are one, yet although they are all in harmony with each other and exist non-judgmentally and function as one, much the same as the cells of our body do or our aspects of consciousness do, they are all aware of the oneness and self within the oneness.
So how does that fit in with us here? We are, within our higher aspects of consciousness, all one and that aspect of self remains within the oneness of consciousness, whilst the thinking aspect of consciousness that is created to allow us to function here as a human being perceives this reality and its separateness so finds it hard to perceive being one with others.
But then we do merge consciously and interact with others all of the time without realising it. Whenever we know the phone is going to ring and who is on the phone before the phone rings, is us functioning as one consciousness with the person who is calling us; whenever we know what someone is going to say before they say it or we answer them before they have finished asking us the question, is us functioning in the oneness; whenever we think that is a coincidence we are functioning in the oneness; whenever we are alerted to a problem before it happens is us functioning in the oneness; whenever we use empathy to discern how someone is feeling or just know what is wrong without being told, then we are functioning within the oneness of consciousness.
This does not stop us from making choices and deciding what we would be happy to do or participate within, the oneness helps us to experience our life experience non-judgmentally, the choices of what we wish to experience are ours to make.
As for functioning with others, then that is largely the same as dealing with self, if we embrace oneness with the fullness of self to experience harmony and happiness, then we will embrace oneness and harmony with others, but if we embrace inner divisional conflicts within the fullness of self to experience disharmony and strife, then we will embrace divisional conflicts and strife with others.
I have no strong feelings about a person's race but I have heard many racist remarks when living amongst several mixed races, so racism is rife amongst all communities.
What I am trying to say, seemingly badly, is that I try not to have any strong feelings or opinions that would make me go to extremes.
Okay, that’s a totally different thing. Although ‘going to extremes’ will mean different things to different people.
You say, in response to Paul’s post:
- I cannot apply his thinking to my life but he is as entitled to his ideas as I am to mine.
Of course he is, but you, (like Paul does occasionally), are saying that you know what is right for everyone.
Whatever star, planet, galaxy or universe you are from, we are here to become channels for the beautiful light from those places.
To be a good channel we should hold no strong opinions, be in harmony as much as possible, and above all be happy to serve those of our spiritual (non-physical) group/family who are always behind us.
All of this means very hard WORK on ourselves. We are not here to try to be 'top of the tree' or attract any kind of ego trip.
Believe it or not this was the plan when we incarnated and how many of us are following what deep down we should know?
What I am saying is that you may well know what is right for you but you have no way of knowing what anyone else’s plan for this incarnation is, or even if they have one.
We know that everything is energy in one form or another. Every thought; every feeling; every word and every action on this planet gives off energy - either positive or negative - light or darkness. When you consider recent (recorded) history you can imagine the darkness we are all surrounded by.
Incidentally, I'm with Paul on this one - no positive or negative (other than in the scientific sense) and dark and light do not equate to 'bad' or 'good'.
Why we are here.(in my opinion)
To Sacrel
My own experiences have shown me that if we are true to ourselves, we are following our path to harmony. I spent the first 40 years trying to get others to like me - trying to please everyone and make them happy. I still like making people laugh. All of this pretence led me into some awful situations, one, a car accident that scarred my face for life, at the tender age of 19. I just could not say 'No' to people. A hard lesson to learn.
During these years I always felt guilty because I was living lies really. It always seemed hard not to let people down.
I started to look at myself more, and ask why I did all of this and then sciatica, after an accident stopped my life dead. This is when I started my own search for meaning and accepted the responsibility for my own actions, words etc.
From then on I was on my path and, although I slipped up from time to time, my life improved. I stepped off the roundabout of life, stayed out of the world and started to meditate about myself.
So my answer to you is that every answer you need is within yourself but you must take the time to find them.
When I channel for people, I am of course listening as well, and I am learning too - which is why I know that people have their own hopes and plans or ideas for themselves. I certainly do not have them as I can only walk my own path.
When I channel for people, I am of course listening as well, and I am learning too - which is why I know that people have their own hopes and plans or ideas for themselves. I certainly do not have them as I can only walk my own path.
I assume here that you are referring to the plans that their soul’s have made for this incarnation (since this was the topic under discussion)? It is possible, is it not, that those people who do not have plans would not seek you out for channelling?
I ask because I have come across a few souls who are here ‘by accident’ and have no plan other than not to do it again and a few who are in their first and only human incarnation, for the experience. I have come across many who have made no plans for this life because, between this life and the last one, they were lost and unable therefore to review their last life or make plans for this one.
Why were here (in my opinion)
To Paul
I have read your post and thought hard about it. I have come to the conclusion that at the root we are probably saying the same thing in different ways. Your knowledge came to you in the right way for you and your own experience - as it does for us all, and of course there are people who KNOW what you are saying.
Where the positive/negative, light/darkness comes in is in the way we, on the earth use the energy. If you remember, not so long ago there was a huge power cut in Europe somewhere (Italy?) and, because it was dark everywhere and they could not be seen, people were committing all kinds of crime. This, sadly, is the worst of human nature. The darkness on the planet that I talked about in my first post is not the same because we cannot see it or even be aware of it as we get on with our lives. My husband and I sat for a long, long time in the quiet for him to develop trance. When it finally happened, I felt I had 'come home' and was amongst my dearest friends and family. A powerful being came along and told me that we, as a group or family had been asked along with many others from other planets etc., by the god that had created the earth, to help bring light, so that people on the earth could get back into the harmony they had lost over millennia.
I didn't understand it then but I do now thirty odd years later.
Sorry to be so long winded!
Crowan
I don't know if my reply to Paul has the answers you want from me. I only know of people's own plans if I channel - or sometimes when in contact with them, it seeps into my mind. I don't always tell them unless they ask.
I do know that for you there is a large change ahead but I have no idea what it is. I know it is something you want but whether you know what you want is another matter! But be assured you will be happy.
Perhaps Paul and I are channelling spirit to spirit when we seem to be so direct. You know Yorkshire people - we are not afraid of speaking our minds. Maybe that is why we were born in that great county!
I assume here that you are referring to the plans that their soul’s have made for this incarnation (since this was the topic under discussion)? It is possible, is it not, that those people who do not have plans would not seek you out for channelling?
I ask because I have come across a few souls who are here ‘by accident’ and have no plan other than not to do it again and a few who are in their first and only human incarnation, for the experience. I have come across many who have made no plans for this life because, between this life and the last one, they were lost and unable therefore to review their last life or make plans for this one.
Yes to all of the first paragraph.
I accept what you say re the mixed bag but must question - is there such a thing as 'accident' because I feel that we are attracted to the experiences that we need - even incarnations.
I do know that for you there is a large change ahead but I have no idea what it is. I know it is something you want but whether you know what you want is another matter! But be assured you will be happy.
Perhaps Paul and I are channelling spirit to spirit when we seem to be so direct. You know Yorkshire people - we are not afraid of speaking our minds. Maybe that is why we were born in that great county!
Change always happens. To everyone. All the time. However, I don't recall asking you to channel anything for me. I do not channel. I journey. (Yes, I know many Yorkshire people. Some are direct, others not. I value directness, if it is honest and thoughtful.)
Your reply to Paul didn't really answer anything that I said. And the point I made about positive/negative and dark/light - I think these terms cause more confusion and trouble than they sort out. There is no need for such dichotomies.
Okay, that’s a totally different thing. Although ‘going to extremes’ will mean different things to different people.
You say, in response to Paul’s post:
Of course he is, but you, (like Paul does occasionally), are saying that you know what is right for everyone.
What I am saying is that you may well know what is right for you but you have no way of knowing what anyone else’s plan for this incarnation is, or even if they have one.Every single thing means different things to different people - I agree.
ALL I know is what is right for me because this is my personal path my personal journey in fact. Because I channel I say, I assume, what people need at that time. I don't question what that is as it means nothing to me. I just cannot doubt every single thing that comes in to my mind about someone I am in communication with. I assure you I have tested it over and over again - who wants to look a fool?
Sorry if you took exception to what I felt was meant for you. I was writing to you and there it was. As you say life is about change - end of story.
Do remember Crowan it makes no difference to me or my life if you trash everything I have said in these posts.
I just cannot doubt every single thing that comes in to my mind about someone I am in communication with. I assure you I have tested it over and over again
Hi Astrolandrea
It seems that you have had a lot of experience with testing the validation of the communications that come through to you. When you came to a point where you realised that seeking validation has been confirmed as correct this must have had some humble feeling for you. Being able to channel for others and trusting the communications that you recieve.
Do you feel communications come into your awareness at any time? Does this cause some disruption in everyday living? or do you create a away to turn comunications on and off?.
It seems quite interesting that you have become a channel more so to a point where vaildation is confirmed. You must feel a sense of contentment being in connection with spirit.:)
Sorry if you took exception to what I felt was meant for you. I was writing to you and there it was. As you say life is about change - end of story.
I did not take exception to what you felt was meant for me, but I question the ethics of any spirit who gives messages that they were not asked for.
Do remember Crowan it makes no difference to me or my life if you trash everything I have said in these posts.
Back up a little! No one is “trashing” anything. You made statements in your first post that I disagree with. I was willing to discuss them and I told you why I disagreed – I’m on HP largely because I enjoy discussions – you didn’t address what I wrote but you did back-track on your initial claims, so there’s little point in re-hashing these if you don’t want to. But I am not “trashing”. What makes you think I am?
To Sacral
Yes I do feel humble but happy to be of service - this is a very nebulous thing to the recipient and trust is essential all around.
I do get people I know who have died coming through and asking me What now? They must have looked around, seen their loved ones they've left and realised they can't get through to them possibly due to grief, so I just suggest they ask for help from the world they are in. I even get people from my own past who have died coming along just to say 'Hello'. I get an image of their faces but quite large, smiling at me.
It is not happening all of the time, just when I am relaxed enough and, if I am busy I tell them sorry I have to go and then re-focus on what I'm doing. I am not a Spiritualist and I'm not here to prove survival - mainly to pass on anything that can help mainly people who are already working in this area. Things I get and pass on should confirm something that is already somewhere in the physical person's mind.
Anyone can do this albeit in a different way perhaps. We ARE all spirit incarnate(in my opinion), it depends on how calm and quiet and in harmony the mind is. I am still learning to control my own energies as I said right at the beginning. There is always room for improvement.
I did not take exception to what you felt was meant for me, but I question the ethics of any spirit who gives messages that they were not asked for.
Back up a little! No one is “trashing” anything. You made statements in your first post that I disagree with. I was willing to discuss them and I told you why I disagreed – I’m on HP largely because I enjoy discussions – you didn’t address what I wrote but you did back-track on your initial claims, so there’s little point in re-hashing these if you don’t want to. But I am not “trashing”. What makes you think I am?
Are you questioning the ethics of your own spirit? Your spirit knows you like to be prepared for things in advance and you did miss out the word LARGE
I have read many of your posts on other subjects and you come over as fairly aggressive whether you mean to or not and that's what makes me think you are.
However most of my friends are like yourself so I am sure I would like you if I met you. I have given past life readings, by the way, to one or two people whose last experiences were in the fairy kingdom as divas - perhaps you, too have come across such in your own work. As a gardener I am even told where to put plants.
Are you questioning the ethics of your own spirit? Your spirit knows you like to be prepared for things in advance and you did miss out the word LARGE
I don’t understand what you are saying here. I would interpret my ‘spirit’ as being my soul, my essence. Or do you mean my helper spirits – power animal, spirit teachers and so on? In the context of this sentence, neither means anything to me. You will have to explain, if you want me to understand.
I have read many of your posts on other subjects and you come over as fairly aggressive whether you mean to or not and that's what makes me think you are.
This is your interpretation and says more about you than about me.
ALL I know is what is right for me because this is my personal path my personal journey in fact.
Hi astrolandrea,
🙂 In which case, wouldn't your thread be more accurately titled: "Why I am here"?
Hi astrolandrea,
🙂 In which case, wouldn't your thread be more accurately titled: "Why I am here"?
Hi Wild Strawberry - You are probably right.
Hi Wild Strawberry - You are probably right.
It's not so easy to go around talking in terms of 'I' though is it? Even in so-called spiritual communities where it's established that everything is a reflection of self, not so many people are eager to pay attention to anything that might not present an opportunity for ego gratification... Imagine if everyone spoke in terms of 'I' - in personal terms, without expanding into epic proportions:
Stephen Hawking - "A Brief History Of Time (IMO)"
Richard Dawkins - "The Selfish Gene (IT'S ALL ABOUT ME)"
I'll look out for Stephen and Richards future threads on the Mental and Emotional forum.....
Even in so-called spiritual communities where it's established that everything is a reflection of self, not so many people are eager to pay attention to anything that might not present an opportunity for ego gratification.
Sorry, I’m not sure I understand what you mean here. Are you equating being spiritual with everything being a reflection of self, or are you speaking of specific communities?
Why We Are Here
We know that everything is energy in one form or another. Every thought; every feeling; every word and every action on this planet gives off energy - either positive or negative - light or darkness. When you consider recent (recorded) history you can imagine the darkness we are all surrounded by.
Whatever star, planet, galaxy or universe you are from, we are here to become channels for the beautiful light from those places.
To be a good channel we should hold no strong opinions, be in harmony as much as possible, and above all be happy to serve those of our spiritual (non-physical) group/family who are always behind us.
All of this means very hard WORK on ourselves. We are not here to try to be 'top of the tree' or attract any kind of ego trip.
Believe it or not this was the plan when we incarnated and how many of us are following what deep down we should know?
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to become who we truly are.