lost part of me!!!!!

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Spot on! Soul loss indeed. I have sent you a PM.

Divine Love

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Kismet,

If I may respectfully disagree, I think that there could be another way of looking at this.

Your soul is that part of you that is totally Spirit. There is no way, ever, that it can be damaged! That includes, shattered, splintered, broken, cracked, bent, bruised, or punctured. Your soul remains whole, for if it did not you would cease to exist on any level.

Now your emotional connection to Spirit may be inhibited in some way. You may accept feelings of distress that include believing that the soul can be damaged. It is our emotional response to things that happen that allow dis-ease to be expressed by our bodies and our minds.

Quietly sit with your hand on your tummy and "just ask" that all of the consciousness of scattered beliefs be removed. Then accept that they are, acknowledge the Oneness with Spirit in all things, and don't take back the belief that you are less than whole and worthy.

Why would Spirit allow you to be anything less than perfect? Why allow someone else to tell you that you are?

Nancy

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Hi Kismet
Another way of looking at it as well, is that the accidents have caused some shock in your emotional and energetic body, which are as yet unresolved. Shock has the effect of leaving us ungrounded, sometimes so much so, that we feel not fully in our bodies, and therefore not fully grounded. The result of this is the feeling that we are overwhelmed by even the smallest things, or movement around us, feel disconnected, confused, and unable to respond effectively to the world. This feeling of being out of control increases the disturbance and the feelings of loss.
A great way to bring yourself back into a state of balance is to do anything that helps you to feel your body, physical exercise, dancing, working in the garden, being in nature, eating grounding foods (root veges, lentils, proteins) and having a few sessions of massage or other physical bodyfelt therapies. Craniosacral therapy, thoughnot so physical, is also wonderful for smoothing out the energetic imbalances.
Coming back into your body may release feelings you might not be wanting to have, and will help to clear them (having a good old weep!).One helpful exercise is to spend 10 minutes using all your senses, ie see what is around you, listen to the sounds, touch a plant or the wall or ground, really feeling,seeing, listening, touching, tasting (your fingers for example) with your full attention, feelbody, clothes, air around you, and alos what is going on inside yourbody, warmth tingling, gurgling, breathing. Keep doing it regularly and several times a dayl, even hourly, until you feel better. Also look for places in your body that feel good, and place your attention there as much as you can. This could be your little toe, or belly, or arms - anything! I know from personal experiencethat this approachreally works to bring ourselves back "Home".
I wish you a speedy recovery, and be gentle with yourself.
Radiant Blessings
Deelighted

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thank you all

for your words of wisdom and help!!

it has been said we all hold the answers to all our questions within ourselves we have only to know where to look and believe in our selves

once again many thanks

love and happiness

kismet [sm=sandrine.gif]

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Good luck with your healing
From a shamanic perspective, i would agree that soul retrieval will support you in reconnecting more consciously with all parts of yourself
Many people have found it a very valuable process..a gift from Great Spirit you could say

tigress

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it has been said we all hold the answers to all our questions within ourselves we have only to know where to look and believe in our selves

Correct which is why your soul has led you to soul retrieval

Divine Love

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I believe in this also I have been to find out about it but never had it done but had karmic chords removed. I was very tempted to have soul retrievel too but I felt that it was the wrong time to do this and didn't feel comfortable with the therapist I couldn't pinpoint it but I just wanted someone else to do it...and felt incredibly cold i kept shivering...as I have problems with fibromyalgia I also have things in the past I would like to let go of as I don't see them as being somthing positive to hang onto & just not worth my energyand bring parts of me back for my highest good... I would love to learn how to do this but as yet haven't found a book that can be of help

andI can either sleep a lot or not sleep at all. as i am tryping this i have a bout of flu but continuing to smile as much as I can and laugh through it all.

hope you find the knowledge you seek as I would love to hear of this as well.

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I recommend books by Sandra Ingreman

simply called 'Soul Retrieval' although I recommend in the first instance that a therapist does the work, after this you have a much better idea of what you are doing and to do it for yourself if you have the confidence to do the work in altered state. One should not collect more than 4 fragments in one session otherwise it can create a heling crisis. Getting back one's soul energy is powerful indeed.

Soul return is powerful indeed.

Divine Love

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ORIGINAL: energyatwork

Kismet,

If I may respectfully disagree, I think that there could be another way of looking at this.

Your soul is that part of you that is totally Spirit. There is no way, ever, that it can be damaged! That includes, shattered, splintered, broken, cracked, bent, bruised, or punctured. Your soul remains whole, for if it did not you would cease to exist on any level.

Now your emotional connection to Spirit may be inhibited in some way. You may accept feelings of distress that include believing that the soul can be damaged. It is our emotional response to things that happen that allow dis-ease to be expressed by our bodies and our minds.

Quietly sit with your hand on your tummy and "just ask" that all of the consciousness of scattered beliefs be removed. Then accept that they are, acknowledge the Oneness with Spirit in all things, and don't take back the belief that you are less than whole and worthy.

Why would Spirit allow you to be anything less than perfect? Why allow someone else to tell you that you are?

Nancy

respectfully but i dont think its wise to give advice about soul loss when you do not believe in soul loss and i would direct you to the chinese proverb in my signature !....

having seen people come thru the other side of the retrieval process and having had it myself and seeing the benefit in almost all cases your comments feel so far off iam wondering if you have any real world experience whatsoever in this area.....
your post seems theoretical rather than real life with the subject matter.....
maybe you tried it and it did'nt work for you but you but you must realise that for alot of people its a literal lifesaver.....some have even been brought back from a coma thru this process when all else has failed...

perhaps you need to read up on the subject....or better yet talk to someone who has been sucessful with the process......it may be a real eye opener for you.

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Hi Wolf

I offered Kismet an alternative to what she had been told and it was specifically addressed to her. I believe that I did that kindly and without putting anyone else down.

Can you say the same?
Nancy

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Well Nancy most of the time the reason people go to a specific forum is because they would like advice and recommendations from people who have experienced the therapy of their choice either as a client or a practitioner.

Have you ever exprienced soul retrieval work with a professional?

Are you a trained therapist in this healing art or a Shaman?

Do you have any experience of retrieving lost parts of your soul?

Do you believe that the soul fragments?

Members are helped by those with the relevant experience being able to help them with their specific questions. Being led to a particular therapy can often come from the soul or those that guide souls on their healing journey.

After all one would not listen to Socrates if one needed hospital treatment. 😉

Of course your experience of a particular therapy is always welcome. By the way are you Energyatwork or Holos today?

It seems you flit between the two could there be some soul loss with you she ponders.........a split image would certainly infer so.

Divine Love

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Nancy/half of EAW/whoever:

I am aware that your post was addressed to Wolfen, but I am making a reply in my own right.

ORIGINAL: energyatwork

Hi Wolf

I offered Kismet an alternative to what she had been told and it was specifically addressed to her. I believe that I did that kindly and without putting anyone else down.

Can you say the same?
Nancy

This is a public forum. Anyone may offer a contribution in a thread. If one truly intends a reply to a given individual that is not open to discussion by others, we have the PM system.

There was nothing, IMHO anyway, in Wolfen's post that was other than his first word .... "respectfully". I thought the post balanced and not a put down at all. Is disagreement, politely phrased, a put-down?

EAW, I have read many of your posts in which you suggest the hand on the tummy etc is all that is needed. For some, this may well be so. For others, perhaps not. They are asking for further help, therapy, active intervention by another, and there's nothing wrong with that.

For Kismet, I endorse Divine Love's post #9 above:

I recommend in the first instance that a therapist does the work, after this you have a much better idea of what you are doing and to do it for yourself if you have the confidence to do the work in altered state.

Kismet has said that where she lives, therapy may be less accessible, however. So I'm quite happy to post or PM a link to a site offering self-help tapes on this subject, if wished. There is one on soul retrieval, on which I have independent advice from someone experienced in this work, that it is useful, effective and suitable for self work. Please just ask.

Which "hat" you're wearing,Nancy - EAW or Holos -when posting does notworry me. I do just wonder how your dual ID fits in with the HP rules, however.

Holistic

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Laura, Wolfen, Kim, and especially Kismet,

The information regarding the “need” for soul retrieval was suggested by someone else, not something that Kismet intuitively knew. Therefore it is equally applicable for someone else to suggest that it may not be necessary.

So many “therapies” that exist today place the responsibility and the solution outside of oneself. If the answer can be found in Kismet’s own strength and request for wholeness, why would she need to seek the assistance of someone else?

The irony does not escape me that within the various therapies the belief exists that it is the individual who accepts the healing for themselves, yet why do they need to find someone else to help them help themselves?

It is true that we, as Energyatwork, often recommend that the individual use the healing that is present in their own hands to accomplish the work that needs to be done. This recommendation is only made to those who exhibit the willingness and retain the ability to do so. How do we know? We work intuitively. It is obvious that each of these individuals has not yet given their development over to someone else. If they can’t act in this way we don’t suggest it.

Since establishing my own identity on HP, I have used the Energyatwork identity for this thread only and that because my first post was under that name, with my own signature. It seemed to be less confusing, but perhaps not. Conspiracy theories aside, I have nothing to hide and display no duplicity.

Nancy

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The irony does not escape me that within the various therapies the belief exists that it is the individual who accepts the healing for themselves, yet why do they need to find someone else to help them help themselves?

I think we've touched on this before Nancy, and sometimes we all need a little help. Not everyone has the strength to heal in isolation. A baby is looked after by a mother, we thrive in a community and don't do so well in isolation. You seem to have a problem with people helping each other.

Some people don't recognise that they are not alone, we are all at different stages of development.

There is nothing wrong in asking for help, and Sprit work in mysterious ways, they are aware of what you may/may not need in order to help you along your way. Trust your instincts Kismet and if you need help, follow the promptings, Spirit do lead you to those that can help you. You are not here to do it all alone, no-one is.

Love
Rosi x

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You seem to have a problem with people helping each other.

Au contraire, Rosi!

What I have a problem with is people rushing in to do their thing before they have offered support for the individual to find their own way.

And I do think that it is helpful to reach out and affirm to someone that they have the capability to solve their own problems, all the while providing the encouragementthey need to find that strength.

Kismet feels isolated as well as feeling helpless and in need. Long term, it is better to teach her to fish rather than provide her meals. If she develops the idea that she can only find peace because someone else provided it, she loses belief in herself.

The best antidote for isolation is to develop oneness with the source of healing, and that is not another human. She finds that within herself and can take it wherever she goes.

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Maybe, just maybe Spirit are behind promptings of going to see someone, be it a counsellor, healer, aromatherapist, or whatever it happens to be. Seeking help takes nothing away from the individual.

I say to anyone, do what feels right for you, for Spirit may have a hand in leading you to those that can help you along your path. Follow the promptings and listen to your inner voice.

If she develops the idea that she can only find peace because someone else provided it, she loses belief in herself

Well, let's hope that no-one is under the illusion that someone else can provide peace for them.

Never be ashamed to ask for help, it takes a courageous person to ask for help.

Love
Rosi x

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let's hope that no-one is under the illusion that someone else can provide peace for them.

That's what I've been saying all along. Kismet does not need to search for someone else to provide what she can find for herself.

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The information regarding the “need” for soul retrieval was suggested by someone else, not something that Kismet intuitively knew. Therefore it is equally applicable for someone else to suggest that it may not be necessary.

As Rosi so rightly says sometimes Spirit bring another soul to assist a person. It was certainly true in my own life experience and journey....led to a book that gave me a light, then all I had to do was follow that light and seek out what I was being shown to seek out by Spirit, people crossed my path brought by Spirit to help me along the way. If this journey had not been this way I would not have collected the skills and techniques that Spirit wished me to collect. If I had not experienced real disease it is unlikely that I would have had the real compassion for others suffering similar cirmcumstances. All has been meant to be and I have not one single regret. It has been a wonderful journey and I have learnt so much being part of a community. For as the native americans so rightly say 'the time of the lone wolf is over'. Unification and unity consciousness of people coming together is the way forward for humanity.

So many “therapies” that exist today place the responsibility and the solution outside of oneself.

Actually if you had studied these therapies you would know that this is the opposite.

If the answer can be found in Kismet’s own strength and request for wholeness, why would she need to seek the assistance of someone else?

Retrieving soul fragments in another dimension is specialised work and as such requires a person to faciltate the process in the first instance.

 
The irony does not escape me that within the various therapies the belief exists that it is the individual who accepts the healing for themselves, yet why do they need to find someone else to help them help themselves?

Because many people do not know how to heal themselves in specialist areas as discussed above. Which is why Spirit have given man these therapies to help others and also help people connect and learn together. As Rosi says life is about community, just like the cells in the body live in community with each other and nothing pleases Spirit more than when we work together and assist the healing process with love.
 

It is true that we, as Energyatwork, often recommend that the individual use the healing that is present in their own hands to accomplish the work that needs to be done. This recommendation is only made to those who exhibit the willingness and retain the ability to do so. How do we know? We work intuitively.

That can be a perception which has no basis in reality for the only person that really knows is the person themself.

It is obvious that each of these individuals has not yet given their development over to someone else. If they can’t act in this way we don’t suggest it.

Once again, this can be a perception why would Spirit bring your intuition to a forum to deter people from using a therapy that Spirit have supported for 40,000 years? The only possible reason Spirit could have is that you are sent to challenge us to further confirm the power of our own work, or to teach you something about things that you not experienced.

Or, could it be your human self is wishing to interfere and spread your own beliefs for your own purpose? Spiritual esoteric therapies are for people who are led or like spiritual esoteric therapies.

Those that do not support the work of Spirit and spirit's therapies might not necessarily have the connection they may feel that they have.

You have a belief that by asking for help that you are giving your development over to someone else, I do not view it in the same way.

I view it that a person asks another to help them so that they can achieve for themself what they wish to achieve. Once they have the piece of the jigsaw puzzle they then usually move on - that is what spir

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Kim, Your words echo my thoughts exactly!

That's what I've been saying all along. Kismet does not need to search for someone else to provide what she can find for herself.

Nancy, I feel you are missing the point, perhaps what you say Kismet doesn't need, is exactly what she does need.

As Kim pointed out, throughout her journey she has been led to others, and I have had similar experiences myself. At times I have been able to help myself, I had the tools necessary, but at other times as I have asked for help, those that could help me have appeared and help me they have. Spirit work in mysterious ways and the intention is not that we work alone as kim has already pointed out. It is about community and helping others with love.

Love
Rosi x

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This feels a great deal like the rush we witnessed a day or so ago to provide Survivor with the “best” therapy.

Leave it to Kismet; this is her thread.

I do think it’s funny though, that I have two puppy dogs trailing after me to pick up anything I might drop. Thanks for the compliment. 😀

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Exactly Rosi, I had a perfect example last week.

Dear All, allow me to share an example.

I had a very bad fall a few weeks ago and the pain in my arm and shoulder has got steadily worst.

My soul intuition led me strongly to contact my Reiki Master (who I haven't seen in ages) who is a fantastic advanced massage therapist. I knew instinctively that he had to work on me. I phoned him and he said 'it sounds like you have a trapped nerve I recommend that you see an Osteopath'. So OK I accepted his expert advice and booked an appointment with the Osteopath, now the Osteopath confirmed what I already knew, I did not have a trapped nerve but I have some serious damage to muscles, tendons etc I then speak to my RM and give him the feedback and he then confirms that is my territory! That I already knew. However, having my first experience with the Osteopath was not a wasted experience because I know the difference between this therapy and Chiropracting, Alexander Technique and Physiotherapy. So when someone tells me they have a problem I am more knowledgeable than I was before and can point them in the right direction.

Life experience is the supreme text of knowledge.

Now it sounds like Nancy has had a very different journey and Spirit have shown her different things and as such she has a different reason for being to ours. However, Nancy are you qualified to advise people about therapies if you have not experienced them yourself?

Divine Love

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This feels a great deal like the rush we witnessed a day or so ago to provide Survivor with the “best” therapy.

Another misconception Nancy, Survivor contacted me and asked for my help not the other way around. I couldn't find his thread so emailed him and asked him to direct me, which he then did.

You do have a lot to learn about jumping to conclusions and assumptions. You see this is another example of your perceptions that have no basis in reality or was it your intuition that has no basis in reality I guess it depends which one you were listening to when you made your last post.

Hopefully you will learn from yourself and your misconceptions.

Threads don't belong to people that is another misconception.

Divine Love
 

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This feels a great deal like the rush we witnessed a day or so ago to provide Survivor with the “best” therapy.

You so like to take things out of context, perhaps you would like to re-phrase your statement above, to something like "provide Survivor with help", who said anything about 'best', again those are your words.

and, does it have anything to do with this discussion, NO.

Love
Rosi x

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[sm=hidesbehindsofa.gif](*ppppppsssssstttt*) slipping off topic here.....;)

xxx

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hello all

i have never liked asking for help in my past because it always caused trouble and know again by me asking it has caused good caring people to get out of sorts with each other.

i thank you all for your help and passion in your beliefs, but i have to walk away now, as when ever i try to move forward in my developement or trying to find alittle peace and understanding in my life it causes problems.

everyone is right and no one is wrong so please please stop beating each other up!! we all have wisdoms to share just dont disrespect each other, everyones point of view is valuable even the fools view as is opens up a fresher view.

thank you all for your caring be happy and at peace

love

debbie (kismet) [sm=sandrine.gif]

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ORIGINAL: energyatwork

Hi Wolf

I offered Kismet an alternative to what she had been told and it was specifically addressed to her. I believe that I did that kindly and without putting anyone else down.

Can you say the same?
Nancy

Yup:D....well at least i thought i did after giving the benefit of my considerable experience in the area......how you choose to view that is entirly your choice,
having known personally what its like to be with soul loss and desperatly in need i know only too well how powerful soul retreival can be......and yes i tried lots of other stuff including similiar techniques you explained.....

would say alot more but others have said it very well.

p.s. kismet, i hope you find what you are looking for....stay focused and you will.

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Dear Kismet

You have not been the cause of any problem at all, communication is key to understanding different perspectives; sometimes if people continue not to listen over a long period of time peoples voices can get a little louder. However, without communication there can be no compromise or understanding of different peoples perspectives. From emails I have received in the past from people on HP they have gained more on their journey and development from threads like this than anything else. Many read but do not contribute or post.

So there is always a bigger picture than can sometimes be seen in the present moment.

You are an important part of the process and I think without pointing it out to you, in your own words you have found a clue to your own soul loss. If this thread had not taken the journey that it did; that clue may have evaded you for a great deal longer. You have asked and you have been given; and now it is for you know and to seek the root cause of the core issue if you choose to; in whatever way or manner you choose to.

Divine Love

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I am sure the perfect person to support you in your soul retrieval and the reclaiming of more aspects of your energy will show up soon

Who has some good experiences with soul retrival to contribute to the forum?

Tigress

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I have expencied many things in my life a car accident and various problems around me soI have seen alot over my years to last some people many lifetimes. If anyone is practicing soul retrievel via distance and wants to practice on me...I would be verywilling to give this a go as a willing candiate.