Do you believe the end is coming or not. I personally can't believe things before they happen. But since all is possible. I am starting to freak. Mostly though because the end is "supposedly" coming 2 days before my birthday. I would not want to die before my birthday. Of course most chances are i won't. But I feel uncomfortable. Don't you?
There's been many discussions over the years about 2012 on these forums, and the general concensus seems to fall into 2 categories...
a) a load of rubbish
b) there will be a 'spiritual' change happening
but very few actually believe the world will be ending.
If you show me the evidence that says the world is going to end, I'll let you know if it's true or not.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
Do you believe the end is coming or not. I personally can't believe things before they happen. But since all is possible. I am starting to freak. Mostly though because the end is "supposedly" coming 2 days before my birthday. I would not want to die before my birthday. Of course most chances are i won't. But I feel uncomfortable. Don't you?
Just a load of hysteria. Belief in dates pointing to the end of the world constantly go in and out of fashion. So when 21st Dec comes and nothing happen, all those 2012 books will be taken off the shelves, and new "revelations" will come into fashion for the next generation of guilible readers. I can see it now, they (the professional authors) will say there was a miscalculation due to the effects of human consciousness and it will now be 2016. Just in time for a new round of books to be printed and another ancient culture to be exploited.
Hi everyone,
No, I don't believe that the end is coming, but just a question - wouldn't this discussion be better off in a different forum? There have been various end-of-the-world predictions from Christians (virtually always fundamentalist ones) at times, but the hype about 21 December 2012 has no connection at all with Christianity.
Could this thread please be moved from the Christianity forum to somewhere more appropriate - maybe where there have been some other discussions on 21/12/2012 and the Mayan calendar?
Hi everyone,
No, I don't believe that the end is coming, but just a question - wouldn't this discussion be better off in a different forum? There have been various end-of-the-world predictions from Christians (virtually always fundamentalist ones) at times, but the hype about 21 December 2012 has no connection at all with Christianity.
Could this thread please be moved from the Christianity forum to somewhere more appropriate - maybe where there have been some other discussions on 21/12/2012 and the Mayan calendar?
Very true, why is this in the Christian section? Prehaps TMO made a mistake. I still would of replied regardless of which forum. If it was moved prehaps more people will join in 😀
Ok, I've moved it to the Ancient Mysteries forum (as it relates to the Mayan calendar). If people think it's better suited in a different forum, let me know and I can put it there instead.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
Do you believe the end is coming or not. I personally can't believe things before they happen. But since all is possible. I am starting to freak. Mostly though because the end is "supposedly" coming 2 days before my birthday. I would not want to die before my birthday. Of course most chances are i won't. But I feel uncomfortable. Don't you?
The 2012 stuff has been shown to be nonsense. And indeed if you allow for change in the calendar the Mayan calendar actually 'ended' about 5 years ago I believe.
So don't worry - I would plan a massive birthday party!
The 2012 stuff has been shown to be nonsense. And indeed if you allow for change in the calendar the Mayan calendar actually 'ended' about 5 years ago I believe.
So don't worry - I would plan a massive birthday party!
Yes, my thought exactly. The so-called "end" of the Mayan calendar is simply the end of a particular cycle of years - very much like how we mark the turn of a century or millennium. There is no evidence whatsoever that the Mayans linked the end of such a cycle to the end of the world.
It would be lovely if 21st December instead heralds some great spiritual transformation for the better in this world - I won't hold my breath, but there's always hope! 😉
Charis
It would be lovely if 21st December instead heralds some great spiritual transformation for the better in this world - I won't hold my breath, but there's always hope! 😉
Charis
Wouldn't it be so much more accessible, and close at hand, to recognize that you only have to alter your perceptions of this world - why wait for a cataclysmic event to make the spiritual transformation for you.
Wouldn't it be so much more accessible, and close at hand, to recognize that you only have to alter your perceptions of this world - why wait for a cataclysmic event to make the spiritual transformation for you.
Precisely 😀 :045:
21/12/12
Well, we only have a few more weeks to find out. Some people are expecting contact from ET's or government disclosure about contact with alien civilizations.
Well, we only have a few more weeks to find out. Some people are expecting contact from ET's or government disclosure about contact with alien civilizations.
If the ET's are concluding their search for intelligent life on other planets....they'll be back home for Christmas 🙁 (heehee). A mince pie, might cheer them up... although I shouldn't really encourage aliens to comfort eat 😀
Seriously, if there was contact from ETs, would it be believed? I mean, I don't know much about it (and I'm trying to stay of Youtube, so can't look it up), but wouldn't Project Bluebeam mean UFOs etc could easily be faked.
It would be lovely if 21st December instead heralds some great spiritual transformation for the better in this world - I won't hold my breath, but there's always hope! 😉
Charis
I would love it to be so.
If the ET's are concluding their search for intelligent life on other planets....they'll be back home for Christmas 🙁 (heehee). A mince pie, might cheer them up... although I shouldn't really encourage aliens to comfort eat 😀
Seriously, if there was contact from ETs, would it be believed? I mean, I don't know much about it (and I'm trying to stay of Youtube, so can't look it up), but wouldn't Project Bluebeam mean UFOs etc could easily be faked.
ANYTHING can be faked with enough technological knowhow. And some things can be faked surprisingly easily.
ANYTHING can be faked with enough technological knowhow. And some things can be faked surprisingly easily.
Sounds intriguing, are you thinking of anything in particular, Sally? A 500ft holographic Bill Gates revealing himself to be the second coming on 21st Dec '12? Or, something else?
I think if we put aside the date in question and look / evaluate the state of the world in general, this general feeling will be relevant, whether it be on a spiritual or material footing .
x daz x
I've heard of Project Bluebeam and it could be done with today's technology. That scenario would be one where the aliens were invaders. The positive vision is where they come here to help usher in a new age of peace of prosperity.
We also have to be prepared to find that life just goes on as ever when we wake up on the 23rd of December. We'll still have Christmas anyway 🙂
I can't wait for the 22nd so I can laugh at everyone 😛
I can't wait for the 22nd so I can laugh at everyone 😛
How kind of you!
It will probably be as eventful as the Millennium Bug!
Bleedy 2012. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A dose of commonsense is needed. The paradigm shift in human conscious is the one WE make NOW! Not tomorrow or the next day or some invented cosmic event, not channelled by a master or from the galactic government based in the seven stars of Subaru. I know people who think they are the chosen one to deliver important messages to humanity. Some are very well meaning people, some are complete fruitcakes. Well, stories of end times and of massive change have come and gone since we have had a hole in our ass 😀
A dose of commonsense is needed. The paradigm shift in human conscious is the one WE make NOW! Not tomorrow or the next day or some invented cosmic event, not channelled by a master or from the galactic government based in the seven stars of Subaru. I know people who think they are the chosen one to deliver important messages to humanity. Some are very well meaning people, some are complete fruitcakes. Well, stories of end times and of massive change have come and gone since we have had a hole in our ass 😀
So stop wasting energy, and getting your tai chi pants in a twist about 2012 then :p
It will probably be as eventful as the Millennium Bug!
Which would have been more eventful if myself and many other computer programmers hadn't worked our cute butts (honest it is :D) off to fix all the problems before they happened.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
Which would have been more eventful if myself and many other computer programmers hadn't worked our cute butts (honest it is :D) off to fix all the problems before they happened.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
Oh, thanks for reminding me 😮 - I apologise for omitting 3 Cheers for Giles and all the other computer programmers for all their hard work at the time :D:D:D -
We were promised Domesday - planes falling out of the sky and all systems going 'down' and it all passed brilliantly - even the washing machine and fridge kept going.
So, who's stocked up for Domesday Mk 2 - 21.12.2012 :029: ???
So stop wasting energy, and getting your tai chi pants in a twist about 2012 then :p
Not at all. I'm having fun :p:p:p
Bleedy 2012. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A dose of commonsense is needed. The paradigm shift in human conscious is the one WE make NOW! Not tomorrow or the next day or some invented cosmic event, not channelled by a master or from the galactic government based in the seven stars of Subaru. I know people who think they are the chosen one to deliver important messages to humanity. Some are very well meaning people, some are complete fruitcakes. Well, stories of end times and of massive change have come and gone since we have had a hole in our ass 😀
Not at all. I'm having fun :p:p:p
Oh, Okay, my mistake. I shall leave you to dole out 1000mg common sense to all of those in need (I have a soft spot for fruitcake myself 😀 - just a nibble:D)
....Today is the day according to some! 12PM! 12.12.12.....
12/12/2012 12:44 PM : Still here!
😀
12/12/2012 12:44 PM : Still here!
😀
So am I! - just ..... developed a very heavy cold, so feeling distinctly under par - but not gone 😉
Yesterday was a very important day - life didn't end, but a new one began - my God-daughter gave birth to a beautiful baby boy, in the late afternoon - welcome new soul Euan.
Yesterday was a very important day - life didn't end, but a new one began - my God-daughter gave birth to a beautiful baby boy, in the late afternoon - welcome new soul Euan.
Aaah! That's wonderuful! 😀 Does that make him a Grand-godson??? Welcome Euan, may he live with Love, Light, Health, Happiness and Peace 🙂