Life Is all about you . .

It is.

Agreed 🙂

Absolutely! :045:

It is! 🙂

Yes 🙂

No way - Life with a capital L, is about all of us, our own individual life is part of the Life, and so we cannot just take the selfish view that 'we' are the only ones that matter. Life is about how we live alongside others.

love
chris

Hi,

I'm always confused when I hear terms like "Self Serving" & "It's all about Me"...

It brings to mind:



Would any of you wear this Tee Shirt whilst treating a Client or Friend?

Or.. Perhaps you would attend an MBS Fair, promoting your business dressed in this Tee:

... so how am I misunderstanding these phrases?

I really would appreciate some clarification.

No way - Life with a capital L, is about all of us, our own individual life is part of the Life, and so we cannot just take the selfish view that 'we' are the only ones that matter. Life is about how we live alongside others.

love
chris

Which of us who answered the original post in the affirmative declared that we are the only ones that mattered?

Hi Derek,
Which of you gave any details at all - I merely made my own comment.

love
chris

Which of us who answered the original post in the affirmative declared that we are the only ones that mattered?

Hi,

I'm always confused when I hear terms like "Self Serving" & "It's all about Me"...

It brings to mind:

Would any of you wear this Tee Shirt whilst treating a Client or Friend?

Or.. Perhaps you would attend an MBS Fair, promoting your business dressed in this Tee:

... so how am I misunderstanding these phrases?

I really would appreciate some clarification.

Hi Ya WildStrawberry

There are so many angles that one could come from and begin to explain this .

My thoughts regarding this begin at the stage or point of where an Individual becomes aware of the self and the Interaction of our human form and of our Individuality with the self .

Through a process of enquiry / evaluation what comes to the fore within our awareness Is all that needs to be resolved within mind . It could be of an emotional nature for example, most are . As to which lifetime these experiences became Issues matters not . I had to resolve an Issue that I became aware of that went back 500 years .

So we have a situation where we are looking at what stems or blocks our ascension for use of a better word . We are looking at what the Individual self (which Is not a separate self from any other Individuals self) brings to the surface of our Individual consciousness .

10 times out of 10 what we become conscious of Is always about YOU . It’s always about how YOU have experienced a combination of mental and emotional expression whether It Is In a form of anger, resentment, guilt, betrayal, fear and such likes .

It starts to hit home the philosophies and the wisdom that emphasises how Important letting things go are . Not to hold on to anger for It will do you no good etc, etc . What you resent you become and such likes . The simple meaning behind what you do to others Is what you are doing to yourself Is such an Important statement that Is still overlooked today and yet It Is a golden rule as some may say .

This Is because we are all peas from the same pod so to speak so In essence there Is no other, so how can life not be only about YOU because only YOU exists . Be It In many various shapes and forms and dimensions matters not . lol .

Your friend, your boss your mum your sister your husband your doctor are all YOU having an Individual experience . Each Individual Is In reflection of themselves on some level with another Individual . It matters not how many Individuals Interact with YOU In your life It matters not what they say or do to YOU for you will only answer and reflect upon at the end of the day how YOU responded and Interacted with them (which Is YOU) ha ha .

That’s why Life Is all about YOU .

dazzle .

Hi Nice,

Thanks for your extensive reply - yes, I know and understand everything you have said, and have had a natural understanding about these things for a long time (I used to talk about my 'Self') before I'd even flicked through a philosophy book.

What I was trying to make a point about is... surely there comes a point where you begin to see beyond You... and a world revolving around 'your issues'...

...and so, as I said, when I hear phrases like "self serving" & "It's all about Me (You)"... I find it really astonishing that you - yes, I mean you Nice (having read your threads) - and a few of the other members on here, are still using language like "It's ALL about me (You)"

... is doesn't seem quite true - so is it?

- I'm asking everyone.

Hi Nice,

Thanks for your extensive reply - yes, I know and understand everything you have said, and have had a natural understanding about these things for a long time (I used to talk about my 'Self') before I'd even flicked through a philosophy book.

What I was trying to make a point about is... surely there comes a point where you begin to see beyond You... and a world revolving around 'your issues'...

...and so, as I said, when I hear phrases like "self serving" & "It's all about Me (You)"... I find it really astonishing that you - yes, I mean you Nice (having read your threads) - and a few of the other members on here, are still using language like "It's ALL about me (You)"

... is doesn't seem quite true - so is it?

- I'm asking everyone.

Hi Again WildStrawberry 🙂

Ah Yes . Good question .

There does become a time / moment where the self Is no more . Beyond mind there Is no self .

Once an Individual works through the falsities of the character or of the person/personality being what they are within mind - there will be the self . We have to see (as you probably know all ready) that this needs to be done In order for self realization to happen . The self Is always present, It’s just not acknowledged, many things keep the realization at bay .

There are no more skins to shed within mind when this happens although there still remains a slightest of attachment to Individuality and with that Individual awareness . There perhaps Is always a slight acknowledgment being had that there Is something - call what we are that Is having an experience whilst we are within mind . In my experience It Is difficult to maintain this state forever lol . For some like myself It Is a flittering In and out of that zone whereas my mum for Instance lasted 7 years before her vibrations lowered - by this time she was only skin and bone .

Our physical experience I would say Involves the experiencing of the self and all of our self Imposed Identities and then transcending or going beyond the mind and becoming aware of what you are without any references or comparisons to be made to what we are not .

At that stage there will be no-one In Identity having the awareness of that If that makes sense . Some may say that It’s the result of awareness aware of awareness . I am not sure about that - It doesn’t sit well with me .

Physical experience does not entertain a state of what I call “being” for long because we lose our attachments to physicality and along with that the desire to eat, sleep, etc, etc . We are no longer In this world so to speak .

A state of being Is close to a non Identity state that’s In experience rather than a person In Identification thats In a state of doing which Is In Identification to that there Is someone doing something when we are seemingly expressing our Individual will .

A state of being can be referred to as an Individual that has no will of their own, perhaps God’s will or what you are Is forever spontaneously In motion, there are no actual thoughts happening as such, there’s no thinking about what It Is your expressing, and there will be no apparent reason as to why you are expressing what you are In the way that you are .

I think for many evaluating many aspects of what we perceive to be helps an individual loosen the binds that tie them Into that limited bubble of expression . I would say that speaking from a non person or a non Identified being’s point of view I would not be able to converse . ha ha . For who Is typing?

Many refer to the mind as a maze and I see It as a good analogy, and I see the exits of each maze level a representation of another level of awareness . The next level of awareness can only be attained by working their way through the next level .

Some will say that life Is all an illusion and the journey of self discovery Is pointless because we can be nothing other than what we are In every given moment, but the point to make Is that the journey has to made In order to see that .

daz .

I like to look at it from a slightly different viewpoint.

I think Douglas Harding's "Headless Way" is a very good example of recognising the Self, and proving that Life IS all about You.

Some good exercises to try on the Headless Way website...

[url]The Headless Way -- Douglas Harding[/url]

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Hello again Nice,

Yep, I know I do understand all of that 'Being' stuff... but the reason this particular thread and and the "It's all about Me" phrase is drawing my attention is because, when I was a teenager and a short while into my early twenties I was 'Being' for a few years - it was a completely natural process, no effort, no trying...

...I can't even distinguish between a before and after 'Being' - honestly, to me, I understood everyone to be like that - which, I guess they are actually: If we follow the "It's all about Me" and everything is a reflection of Me/You (and our Beings are the same) then at that time I was my Being, and so that is where I met other people - seeing their Being, and their seeing mine (there were no issues clouding the inbetween space).

... this is getting a bit long winded, so anyway, when I was like that, the natural response was to want to 'worship' (I think that's the most accurate word I could use) the 'Being' in other people. - Kind of Namaste, in the absoutely truest sense of the word. Obviuosly, I was a teenager and instinctivelt felt that I couldn't go around telling everyone that I Adored them/their True Self, because it could easily be taken at a personal level as personal chemisty or something - leading to all sorts of entanglements..

(I'm getting to the point now)... so, during that time my outward structures stayed where they were (mostly), the little clashes of ego between some people stayed where they were, the friendships with other egos stayed where they were... but Behind/Underneath all of that the natural response to being was to see others as their True Self and Worship/Adore that Self.

...So now that we are all adults and can speak more freely about these things, when I hear "It's All about Me" coming from the mouths of people who are as good as claiming to be Self Realised, then I have to question it - Sincerely, I'm not trying to be difficult.

...And it makes me want to point out the fact that if indeed - "It's all about Me", then wouldn't it be more fruitful all around/for everyone if instead of using the word 'We' (as though speaking in Universal Truths) to substitute the word 'Me', so that you are speaking from your *own* perspective and not 'muddy the waters', but instead helping to clear them?

Hello again Nice,

Yep, I know I do understand all of that 'Being' stuff... but the reason this particular thread and and the "It's all about Me" phrase is drawing my attention is because, when I was a teenager and a short while into my early twenties I was 'Being' for a few years - it was a completely natural process, no effort, no trying...

...I can't even distinguish between a before and after 'Being' - honestly, to me, I understood everyone to be like that - which, I guess they are actually: If we follow the "It's all about Me" and everything is a reflection of Me/You (and our Beings are the same) then at that time I was my Being, and so that is where I met other people - seeing their Being, and their seeing mine (there were no issues clouding the inbetween space).

... this is getting a bit long winded, so anyway, when I was like that, the natural response was to want to 'worship' (I think that's the most accurate word I could use) the 'Being' in other people. - Kind of Namaste, in the absoutely truest sense of the word. Obviuosly, I was a teenager and instinctivelt felt that I couldn't go around telling everyone that I Adored them/their True Self, because it could easily be taken at a personal level as personal chemisty or something - leading to all sorts of entanglements..

(I'm getting to the point now)... so, during that time my outward structures stayed where they were (mostly), the little clashes of ego between some people stayed where they were, the friendships with other egos stayed where they were... but Behind/Underneath all of that the natural response to being was to see others as their True Self and Worship/Adore that Self.

...So now that we are all adults and can speak more freely about these things, when I hear "It's All about Me" coming from the mouths of people who are as good as claiming to be Self Realised, then I have to question it - Sincerely, I'm not trying to be difficult.

...And it makes me want to point out the fact that if indeed - "It's all about Me", then wouldn't it be more fruitful all around/for everyone if instead of using the word 'We' (as though speaking in Universal Truths) to substitute the word 'Me', so that you are speaking from your *own* perspective and not 'muddy the waters', but instead helping to clear them?

Hi Again Strawberry . 🙂

I had a similar time In my life strawberry where I can now look back at myself so to speak from the age of 5 onwards I say that age because at that age I was more aware of my day to day activities and more aware of my experiences had and how I Interacted with others . This state of being lasted until I was about 14 . I was brought up by my mum only who was all ready In a state of enlightenment and my childhood was a reflection of an Individual with no ties no hiccups no restrictions and I was enveloped In a mass of God-Like love .

Like you said there was no effort In being or becoming this way . The love I was In expression of was the same to family friends neighbours strangers and I lived in a world that seemingly contained no fear or darkness I used to walk my dog for 12 miles to reach the west end of london on my own aged 11 at midnight because I could and because there seemed nothing wrong In doing so .

What was an Important piece of understanding for me once sufferings had entered my life was having an understanding as to why I suffered and to why anyone would want to cause me suffering . All I did was love I kid you not . On one conscious level I didn’t know why I was experiencing this . I was an Innocent lamb being put to the slaughter (lol) and In my darkest moment I self enquired which went on for about 20 years whilst knowing/understanding more about who and what I am or thought that I was along the way .

The sufferings were the catalyst for self enquiry that eventually led to my realizations . The sufferings were the result of many things but the Important realization I had was that there Is no-one quite literally to blame for what I experience . It’s not about anyone else . It’s all about me as Is the nature of the thread .

I created all of It on some level .

Another aspect to self enquiry Is that It will bring to the surface all that needs to be resolved . We are not conscious of all that needs to be resolved within mind In any one moment . Although I was In a state that was close to being when I was a kid I wasn’t aware at the time what laid beneath the surface . In one way I was in denial of that and In another way I was just not aware of It . What seems to be apparent In my experience Is that you can be In a sort of a being state without realizing the self whereas In order to realize the self you need to be free and at peace from everything that resides within your Individual mind . When that Is so, then the potential to experience a life of being Is there for all . How long that lasts perhaps It’s different for all for whatever reason that may be .

Another Important aspect to mull over Is that at times discussions are made with the Intention to create a spark within the energy of another .

It does not contain one’s full or sole expression or one’s full understandings of life and of self and of no self . A self realized Individual can still Interact on many levels of understandings that encompass anothers level of awareness from being totally attached to one’s personality to speaking of how the weather Is today or to converse with another who has had sense of beingness or whatever .

How does one help another understand that there Is no self when they come from a place where the other cannot understand . One must always come from a place that everyone no matter what level they are at or now matter how aware they are will understand .

I still do not mentally understand mathematical equations ever since I was a kid . lol . It didn’t matter how hard the teacher tried to get me to understand It .

The reason being was that he was not speaking to me In ways that I could understand .

What muddied the waters was Indeed that . It wasn’t about his wealth of knowledge It was how he could relate on an Individual one-to-one basis with such knowledge .

daz .

Hi Derek,
Which of you gave any details at all - I merely made my own comment.

love
chris

You are correct, Chris, in saying we gave no details - we were not asked for any! It was a simple question that needed a simple answer.

Your comment seemed to make an assumption in the absence of details.

My mum always told me not to assume anything - it's dangerous and can cause grief 😉

Hello Nice (lovely day today),

Another Important aspect to mull over Is that at times discussions are made with the Intention to create a spark within the energy of another .

daz .

So, in starting this "Life it's all about you..." thread - what was your intention... bearing in mind that it's all about you?

Hello Nice (lovely day today),

So, in starting this "Life it's all about you..." thread - what was your intention... bearing in mind that it's all about you?

Hi Again WildStrawberry . 🙂

The thing about Individuality strawberry as you know Is that being Individual doesn’t separate one from another although It can appear that way . As Individuals we can all think and feel that we are functioning Independently from one another .

We will all see an aspect of ourselves In another until we don’t . I see a lot of turmoil In the world around me and I see a lot of people angry with life, and I see In the news Individuals blaming governments, blaming parents, doctors, partners, religious leaders and even the weather for the way that they feel .

My Intention behind Introducing this thread has related to my Individual self and my life experiences and how I dealt with my own sufferings In relation to that . No-one outside of their Individual self can bring the love of what you are In to their life experience . No-one can bring about a state of Inner peace and harmony .

It Is all about Me and how I go about attaining that despite what goes on around me . We are all In the same boat so to speak because what we are In Individual expression are peas from the same pod .

Individuality allows me to relate to you In a similar or In a different mind-set that will allow us to agree and to disagree as to whether Chelsea F.C Is a better football team than Man Utd for example . lol .

The thing Is strawberry despite having unique opinions and perceptions there Is no difference In what It Is that we are .

So on one level me posting this thread about life Is all about ME, It Is actually YOU on some level posting this thread about life saying that It Is all about YOU . How do you know that YOU (strawberry) didn’t write this thread . Many would say that’s silly ha ha because I know that It wasn’t I that wrote this - It was YOU (daz) . This Is a huge point I am making because In mind we do relate to being Individual whilst acknowledging that all Is one - there Is a sense of Individual growth that Is happening and In that respect calling the thread Life Is all about You/me can be related to by all on that Individual basis .

That’s why saying life Is all about me does Indeed relates to everybody else’s Individual self (be It the same self nevertheless) .

daz .

Hi Derek,
Your mum sounds like a wise woman.
When I saw the post that said "Any thoughts . ." I did assume that that meant it was asking for more than just a single word reply. Actually I still think it does lol.

Hi Dazzle and WildStrawberry,
Excellent discussion - and I agree with lots of it.
I agree that we start off by perceiving from our own viewpoint - this has to be the case. We have the ability though to understand how others may be feeling (though again using our experiences), but by observing how others interact, when that does not involve us, we learn about the wider world. So we start off as a singularity, stretch our connections to those with whom we have contact, and then we realise the connections made between others that are not directly connecting to our 'web'. It is when we reach this stage that it becomes clear that life is not just about us, that we are part of the whole, but we are not the centre.
love
chris

Hi Nice,

The thing Is strawberry despite having unique opinions and perceptions there Is no difference In what It Is that we are .

So on one level me posting this thread about life Is all about ME, It Is actually YOU on some level posting this thread about life saying that It Is all about YOU . How do you know that YOU (strawberry) didn’t write this thread . Many would say that’s silly ha ha because I know that It wasn’t I that wrote this - It was YOU (daz) . This Is a huge point I am making because In mind we do relate to being Individual whilst acknowledging that all Is one - there Is a sense of Individual growth that Is happening and In that respect calling the thread Life Is all about You/me can be related to by all on that Individual basis .

I know, I understand that (even the bit in blue)

We will all see an aspect of ourselves In another until we don’t . I see a lot of turmoil In the world around me and I see a lot of people angry with life, and I see In the news Individuals blaming governments, blaming parents, doctors, partners, religious leaders and even the weather for the way that they feel .

So are you seeing aspects of yourself in those angry, blaming people?

... there Is a sense of Individual growth that Is happening and In that respect calling the thread Life Is all about You/me can be related to by all on that Individual basis .

That’s why saying life Is all about me does Indeed relates to everybody else’s Individual self (be It the same self nevertheless) .

...that makes sense, so why didn't you title the thread "Life it's all about Us" ?

Hi Nice,

So are you seeing aspects of yourself in those angry, blaming people?

Hi W.S.

There was a period within my life where I was lost to the world and lost to myself . I went through similar patterns of expression as to like those that I have observed around me, so I can relate as to why many others do blame anything/anyone other than their Individual self for what they are In experience of or expression of .

...that makes sense, so why didn't you title the thread "Life it's all about Us" ?

That's the beauty of Individual expression W.S. You perhaps may of used or preferred the term "Us" whereas I used Life Is all about "You" .

When I mean "Me" In relation to the meaning of the thread It was Implying that Me or You Is the "Us" Or Is the all .

I am sure that If I used the word "Us" In the first Instance someone would of asked do "you" mean "me" he hee .

So I came across from an Individual perspective that we all know as there being a "you" and a "me" which does Indeed mean and Include In many eyes as being the same as all of "Us" .

dazzle .

Hi Dazzle and WildStrawberry,
Excellent discussion - and I agree with lots of it.
I agree that we start off by perceiving from our own viewpoint - this has to be the case. We have the ability though to understand how others may be feeling (though again using our experiences), but by observing how others interact, when that does not involve us, we learn about the wider world. So we start off as a singularity, stretch our connections to those with whom we have contact, and then we realise the connections made between others that are not directly connecting to our 'web'. It is when we reach this stage that it becomes clear that life is not just about us, that we are part of the whole, but we are not the centre.
love
chris

Thanks for your thoughts chris . I understand what you have said . 🙂

dazzle .

Hi Derek,
Your mum sounds like a wise woman.
When I saw the post that said "Any thoughts . ." I did assume that that meant it was asking for more than just a single word reply. Actually I still think it does lol.

Hi Chris. you are right, the original post did ask for thoughts rather than a simple answer. I beg your pardon 🙂

Nice,



Here's a Daisy Chain for around the neck of your innocent little lamb that went to the slaughter.... maybe she just got lost and is ready to start frolicking again...

Or, I could have a scout around for a Man Utd scarf if you'd prefer - the choice is yours ... he hee

...So we start off as a singularity..

Hi cactuschris,

Don't we/me/us/I (arrgh, small print) start as a whole/expanded consciousness and become divided by conditioning?

Nice,

Here's a Daisy Chain for around the neck of your innocent little lamb that went to the slaughter.... maybe she just got lost and is ready to start frolicking again...

Or, I could have a scout around for a Man Utd scarf if you'd prefer - the choice is yours ... he hee

Ha Ha thanks Strawberry . .

I would prefer a chelsea scarf If there's one knocking about 😀

dazzle .

Hi cactuschris,

Don't we/me/us/I (arrgh, small print) start as a whole/expanded consciousness and become divided by conditioning?

I think "you" missed out the "you" In all of that . 😀

dazzle .

Hi cactuschris,

Don't we/me/us/I (arrgh, small print) start as a whole/expanded consciousness and become divided by conditioning?

Hahah, of course!
We start out like a baby who is totally selfish, graduate to seeing others around us like mother, and end up looking out for others for whom we would give our lives, like our children

love
chris

I would prefer a chelsea scarf If there's one knocking about 😀

I very much doubt that ~ I won't even bother looking...