..and we can spend our life trying to work it out and maybe never get the answer(s) to satisfy us.
Perhaps we have all the answers already, we just can't see the wood for the trees.
I often think exactly the same thing.
Yes I too think too much..........but can that also mean I am a very thoughtful person.....depends how and what we think of it. 😉
Lol, awww Fleur.. me too, but yes I did mean more 'trying to figure out life, the Universe and everything' kind of thinking 🙂
Lol, awww Fleur.. me too, but yes I did mean more 'trying to figure out life, the Universe and everything' kind of thinking 🙂
I know what you meant flash.............but then again my thoughts took me down another tangent.............this could go , on and on couldnt it:005:
I think this quotation from Kahlil Gibran says a lot of about how we generally learn life's lessons...
I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers.
Trying to be selfless rather than 'good', and spending more time 'being' and less time analyzing is a wise course I think.
Perhaps we have all the answers already, we just can't see the wood for the trees.
would that be a the tree falling in the forest making no sound with no one there to hear it? 😉
peace and love
norbu
When a tree falls in the forest do the other trees laugh at it?
i don't know; i think i'm stumped on that one!
I thought I was barking up the wrong tree.
Hang on guys il think about that one anilise it then post could be a long day lmao
and now we've got to the root of the matter, shall we leaf it be:rolleyes:
I think we should branch out.
I can "think" of nothing to add except :rollaugh::rollaugh::rollaugh:
I'd say it's a bit sappy when an important budding thread gets so quickly stunted.
LOL
"I don't think I think too much."
- Wayne Rooney
I'd say it's a bit sappy when an important budding thread gets so quickly stunted.
You're right V, it's fruitless.
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Right, seriously now. How about it being an individual thing? Which isn't to say that maybe some individuals don't "think to much" anyway, but sometimes people may seem to do so, to the rest of us, but it's right for them.
I've had a long-time friend to illustrate this. Sadly he's not nearby, but we do go through periods of daily contact by email and phone for weeks. He's not quite so much into this now, having come out into the physical world more, but for several years around the turn of the century he'd spend much of the day revolving in his head existential questions about the meaning of this or that, or of himself. I'd never, actually, seen such apparently almost pathological introspection. It's hard to describe, and my words can't do that here. In the real world you'd meet him and he'd seem fine, but to a friend like me he could sit down and talk so much about the mental contortions going on within his self-examination (mainly then) and also "meaning of life" issues, that he could spend most of a day at it if you sat with him.
At times you might want to say in exasperation, "Get out there and get a life!" But much of what he said made sense. The rest was a bit too deep or self-absorbed to follow.
But in the last 12 months I've come to see that this is right for him. Let's get all New Agey and call it "his path in this life" or something. Because he has emerged from it somewhat and is a very creative person. Having such insight (and forgiveness and sensitivity) into the complexity of himself, he's a superb understander of other people, and he's fantastic at helping two people resove disagreements. He's particularly very gifted now at running groups of this kind, as he really does so with no ego, no personal point of view, and understanding of different mental make-ups which I find remarkable.
So there's someone who appeared to "think far to much" (hours alone in his flat doing nothing else) - but in the end it was in this case right for him IMHO. It even seems, now that I think about it, that it was a period he had to go through.
V
Anyway, the subject is certainly fertile soil for the mind.
Think
Hello All,
At the time of the past I did think to much but as times came forward I found the way to build the expressions to create a space to bring together tthe part to breath and rest, realizing that we are at times at a place were the force of issues create a tunning into the flow of expressions to meet times at hand. Handeling the time at hand is a way to bring about the parts for those that can manage to bring about the space that we can meter the views and bring together the ways to bring in a meditative state to mix the energies that are in view so to work out the reflections of what matters....Gypsee
Well I guess we are given a brain for a reason, challenge the things we see in life and decide what to accept. The over thinking might get a bit much if you go off into the deep end.
I feel my 'need to know' comes from a want of a better understanding.
I found out just how far my brain needs to go after being attuned to Reiki.
I kept asking why, why, why? Till in the end I found myself not beliving as I
had no answers. I learned that I had to 'let it be'.
I have a more peaceful mind now.
Trust
Maybe instead of trying to figure it out we should just trust that we already know.
The trying makes it a difficult project and we learn that doing something difficult brings rewards.
Maybe our 'trying to be in control of our success in understanding' is getting in the way of us knowing that we are already successful and already understand!
Maybe this is something that can't be figured out in a calculated way but maybe it is something that needs to be just understood without thinking.
Old thread, but I had to laugh when I saw it. I just said this about myself the other day. In fact, I put way too much thought into many things. At times, it can be a good thing, but others, I don't know... It's like it's time to move on, spending too much time on this one!
I love the saying
"I think, therefore I am Man" and some wag wrote "I'm pink, therefore I'm Spam"
Love and light
reikiangel
xxx
Some monks spend their entire life tying to achieve a total thoughtless state.
Some monks spend their entire life tying to achieve a total thoughtless state.
Yes, I forget TBH the ins and outs of this thread in the past, above. But it's necessary to define what we mean by "think" IMHO. Most "thought" is just idle chatter in the head, pretty out of control, like gossips at work who can't not talk. So most spiritual paths of East and West involve a stilling of the mind.
Stilling the mind is possibly IMO less effective than in directing its attention elsewhere, such as devotionally upward - but that could be debated.
V
I must say I have to agree with V.........IMO, you have to try and achieve the balance. I attend Kirtan chanting which is a devotional chant which cleanses the heart.
Meditation however, stills the mind.......coupled with an awareness of events and situations happening around you, makes for a happier existence whilst we are blessed with life.........
Some people spend their whole lives trying so hard to achieve enlightenment....they forget to live a happy life..........IMVHO....try to achieve happiness before enlightenment.....
Yes, I forget TBH the ins and outs of this thread in the past, above. But it's necessary to define what we mean by "think" IMHO. Most "thought" is just idle chatter in the head, pretty out of control, like gossips at work who can't not talk. So most spiritual paths of East and West involve a stilling of the mind.
I agree. Thoughts are, IMO, the memories of past senses that are brought up in our unconscious mind through the senses being triggered in the present moment (hence why e.g. we can have deja vu, or we can smell something and remember our childhood). It is when we grab hold of one of these thoughts and bring it to the conscious mind that it actually feeds back to our senses in order for us to feel/see/hear those thoughts and then, like a viscious circle, those stimulated senses bring up more associated thoughts. This is where we find ourselves following a "train of thought" or more commonly we call this "daydreaming". These thoughts are not reality; they are actually keeping us from being in the trueness of the present moment and from being connected with the senses of the present moment.
Stilling the mind is possibly IMO less effective than in directing its attention elsewhere, such as devotionally upward - but that could be debated.
IMO, bearing in mind ('scuse the pun) what I've said above, stilling the mind allows us to bring ourselves to the present moment where we can find our true "Self" or the true "I". If you are of the belief that we are all connected as one, we are all the source or we are all "God", then connecting with the true self is, as you appear to say, "directing the attention devotionally upward". 😉
Love and Reiki Hugs