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Hi,

This is my first post on here and I've managed to make it a slightly embarassing one so I hope no one minds!

I'm really hoping that someone can give me an idea on the following as I'm puzzled and would like to know what is going on.
I do a Japanese breathing meditation based on the 'hara' each day (it's from a tradition form of Reiki) and I always get strong sensations of, ahem, arousal (that's as much as I want to say!). When I first started practising this form of meditation a couple of months ago I sometimes saw colours in my mind's eye but more recently this has been happening....Anyone heard of this, experienced it, or know what it's about? :confused:

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Mouse

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Hi Mouse,
I've been following this thread for some time. It has been very interesting to read your experiences, and I would certainly echo others' thoughts that what you are describing seems to be a classic case of kundalini awakening.
If it's of any comfort or use, I too went through a very similar experience about 12 years ago. At the time, I was actively trying to arouse the kundalini shakti, and when she eventually did awaken, my goodness, was it a shock.
Accompanying a whole array of unusual phenomena was an intense heat that would build around the base of the spine, and move up the spine until it would hit a block, causing my whole body to jolt violently. Of course, this gave friends and family great concern, and I was advised many times to see a doctor. I chose not to, instead placing my faith in the process and the innate wisdom of the kundalini.
In the evenings, when I was meditating, I would have to sit with the windows open and heating off even in middle of winter, as I felt as if I were literally burning up.
The same held for when I was living in Australia, and would sit extended silent retreats in the blue mountains. As the snow was falling, I would be in my freezing little hut, feeling too hot to be in the main hall which was heated.
As others have said here, you are not the first (nor will you be the last) to go through this experience. Nowadays, there is a wealth of information available on kundalini. Most, I would say, is pretty uninformed rubbish, but there is some decent material available. Reading and researching may help to alleviate some of your worries.
The sensation of being strapped to the front of a roller-coaster, and not being able to get off is scary. But from my experience, it is possible to shift your perspective somewhat, and actually begin to enjoy and marvel and wonder at the workings of the kundalini shakti. She really does know what She is doing!
I wish you good luck.
Warmest regards
Shankar.

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Hi Norbu

"..actually the heat sensations I get in the shoulder blades, between the shoulder blades and in the chest and abdomen are often there. particularly after meditation. They're not intense heat sensations as the experience with heat down the left side of my body when I stayed in bed for a week. After doing the body scan I started to get quite intense heat sensations in my toes, mostly during the body scan and in some parts of my fingers. There's also quite often sensations of heat in the palms of my hands..."

It's interesting that you've had energy sensations on the left side of the body - this is the feminine side, to do with Mother, love, emotions, relationships with women... Having heat between shoulder blades and in the chest suggests the heart chakra opening. Sorry to sound like the spiritual equivalent of a pop psychologist (!) but I wonder if there is a need for you to balance or address emotions in some way? Just an thought/intuition... It's all mystery isn't it? I find it really interesting hearing other people's experiences with meditation and energy though. I've found however that guidance and info. often comes through dreams, it takes quite a while to decipher sometimes!

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It's interesting that you've had energy sensations on the left side of the body - this is the feminine side, to do with Mother, love, emotions, relationships with women... Having heat between shoulder blades and in the chest suggests the heart chakra opening. Sorry to sound like the spiritual equivalent of a pop psychologist (!) but I wonder if there is a need for you to balance or address emotions in some way? Just an thought/intuition... It's all mystery isn't it? I find it really interesting hearing other people's experiences with meditation and energy though. I've found however that guidance and info. often comes through dreams, it takes quite a while to decipher sometimes!

Hi mouse, don't worry about sounding like a pop psychologist. I don't think you do at all as it happens. It's interesting that you are pretty much spot on with your "thoughts/intuitions," I'd reckon anyway. The things you mention are very much related to the processes going on for me. The basis for my practice, though, is meditation.

The fact that you question your own views and see "it's all mystery" is a good indication, I believe, that what you are feeling and saying is authentic. I also think you're right that guidance comes to us in dreams. For me it is mainly through meditation practice... but I'm not sure exactly what "guidance" means in any case! Things just seem to unfold in their own time if we pay attention to them, with patience and trust (not always so easy I know!).

You're able to give me some useful thoughts! You should take heart that you have the resources you need to take a step at a time through what you are experiencing, whatever that is.

I also relate very much to what you say, Shankar, about being strapped to the front of a roller coaster. It has been like that for or extended periods for me, even if less so now. It all kind of just levels out. There are still ups and downs and meditating really helps to move through the downs and, just as importantly, grounds the ups.

Appreciating the sharing of experiences here. It's helpful and reassuring.

Norbu

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Shankar - thank you, very interesting, and I feel, rather than think, the same as you about how to approach this experience - just trust that Kundalini knows what is right for you.... How funny you mention a roller-coaster; I actually dreamt recently that I was lying face down on a roller-coaster frame, the ride took off and seemed scary initially but I made it OK and was able to step off gracefully at the end (of course I'm hoping this will be the case if I am going through a K. awakening). The heat stuff you had sounds pretty intense! The strangest bit for me on that is when one leg feels hot, all the way down to the feet, and the other is just normal!

Norbu - I'm glad my thoughts/intuitions resonated with you :). It is helpful to share experiences isn't it. The idea of guidance is an interesting one... I've tried asking 'guides' or my 'higher self' for info. on what's going on, pretty much to no avail unless they are communicating in other ways (to be honest I'm not sure whether they exist anyway!)... Very occasionally I get little 'visions' or wake up with a phrase or a word in my head from a dream, they are often obscure but I feel that they are guidance of a sort. The latest that has come up for me is the phrase 'Golden Gate 5' so have posted here asking the accupuncturists if they've heard of it as it has a feel of Chinese thought to me..

Happy meditating...

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I've tried asking 'guides' or my 'higher self' for info. on what's going on, pretty much to no avail unless they are communicating in other ways (to be honest I'm not sure whether they exist anyway!)...

I would say your guides did a good job in getting you to this forum....Look at all the info and support that's been forthcoming.

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The idea of guidance is an interesting one... I've tried asking 'guides' or my 'higher self' for info. on what's going on, pretty much to no avail unless they are communicating in other ways (to be honest I'm not sure whether they exist anyway!)...

I think this is a really interesting subject but it is somewhat off topic for this thread so I've started a new thread in the Spirituality section to look at it:

Norbu

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I would say your guides did a good job in getting you to this forum....Look at all the info and support that's been forthcoming.

Yes, I certainly appreciate the info and support I've had here :)... I don't know anyone I can discuss this kind of thing with (or if I do they are also keeping cautiously quiet!). Guides leading me here? Hmmmmm... not sure, who knows. Think it's just me, have always been very much a 'seeker'.. would happily do a degree in esotericism if I could! The information on the Internet about Kundalini is a real mixture, I haven't been able to find answers to some fairly fundamental questions. The best book I've found so far, if anyone's interested, is 'Energies of Transformation' by Bonnie Greenwell.

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Thought I'd put another update on here (it's getting a bit blog-like, sorry about that!). Still have the heat. The new thing is a vibrating sensation, fairly subtle but definitely there - at base of spine and sometimes lower abdomen. Nothing else apart from feeling like I'm not quite with it or not quite here from time to time but that's not really new!
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Just thought I'd join in on this thread...
Mouse: I did Reiki 1 about 7 months ago, and I've been doing the Hatsurei Ho fairly regularly...I see some colours, and feel the usual heat/tingling in my palms, but, about two months ago (i think), i started to also get very aroused, as soon as i focused on the hara (i'm also female, btw 🙂 I haven't felt the heat that you (and others) have described, but, these sexual sensations do alarm me a little. From what i've gathered from this thread, i shouldn't be alarmed...but i do find it rather strange. Also, the feelings of arousal really distract me from my Hatsurei meditation..does anyone have practical advice as to how i can not focus on these feelings?
and i feel a little embarrassed to contact my Reiki Master about this ...he's a Japanese lay monk, and very traditional....not sure what to do. Thanks 🙂
Oh, and mouse, i forgot to mention, i also had the 'vibrating' sensation..it was near my root chakra...it would come and go randomly.But that's gone away..at least, i haven't felt it for quite some time (that was a very bizarre sensation, i had no idea what was going on!). Good luck mouse...

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Just thought I'd join in on this thread...
Mouse: I did Reiki 1 about 7 months ago, and I've been doing the Hatsurei Ho fairly regularly...I see some colours, and feel the usual heat/tingling in my palms, but, about two months ago (i think), i started to also get very aroused, as soon as i focused on the hara (i'm also female, btw 🙂 I haven't felt the heat that you (and others) have described, but, these sexual sensations do alarm me a little. From what i've gathered from this thread, i shouldn't be alarmed...but i do find it rather strange. Also, the feelings of arousal really distract me from my Hatsurei meditation..does anyone have practical advice as to how i can not focus on these feelings?
and i feel a little embarrassed to contact my Reiki Master about this ...he's a Japanese lay monk, and very traditional....not sure what to do. Thanks 🙂
Oh, and mouse, i forgot to mention, i also had the 'vibrating' sensation..it was near my root chakra...it would come and go randomly.But that's gone away..at least, i haven't felt it for quite some time (that was a very bizarre sensation, i had no idea what was going on!). Good luck mouse...

Hello Zazen,

It's interesting to read about someone with a very similar experience...

Yeah, the arousal thing is quite disconcerting, it was the last thing I was expecting too! (I do Joshin Kokyo Ho, not the full Hatsu Rei Ho, also do self treatment every day). It may happen less often if you continue with Hatsu Rei Ho; I've found it doesn't happen every time now, just now and then (although it's more intense when it does). Maybe you should bite the bullet and ask your RM about it; the traditional Japanese perspective on this would be well worth knowing. Perhaps it is just considered to be what is known as hibbik. Also, acceptance.....of a natural expression of energy seems to help, try to accept it's happening and carry on with your breathing. Know what you mean about the vibrating sensation...very strange. I have it most of the time now, from root chakra area to middle of lower back and lower abdomen. It goes a bit higher to chest area when I do self treatment. Am wondering what's next.

Good luck!

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Here goes another update on the it-might-be-kundalini stuff because I'm tired and stressed at work and feel like a little break! The vibrating sensation is still happening. It is stronger in general, tends to be more so at night and sometimes just at random times in the day. Am more spacey and forgetful, although I guess that could just be stress (what do I mean "just"!). The heat went away but has now come back big time, mostly around base of spine and feet. It's really cold here at the moment so it's nice! Lots of moving between dreaming and waking at night so not sure in the morning which was which. Strange thing with hearing my name being called twice a couple of nights ago. I remember waking up and going what? not sure if it was a dream...Love this energy, whatever it is...
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Oh, no comments at all... I guess it is a blog then 🙁
No one out there experiencing anything similar ?
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Oh, no comments at all... I guess it is a blog then 🙁
No one out there experiencing anything similar ?
Mousex

Hi Mouse,

There has been lots going on for me this month in meditation particularly and mostly with heat in post meditation. Heat has been in the shoulder and chest areas mainly.

The energy movements in the chest have gone into the neck and head more. I've had some dreams and things come up from a long time back with this too.

There has also been continued tingling warm sensations in the feet. In the morning lying still in bed this can come over the whole body and feels very good.

Sometimes it does seem like it would be great if it would all just get on with it and sort itself out. The most important thing is to keep meditations and thoughts focussed on loving ideas and try to include everyone in your experience, even if they are people you find it hard to get on with or who have done you harm, into that consciousness.

Anyway, you stay with it!

Norbu

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Hi Norbu

Here's an impromptu reading for you...I feel that your experiences come from your heart chakra opening/expanding; and that more emotional stuff will come up for you in the first 2 months of the new year...it's a positive change. Please excuse me posting this and obviously disregard if you wish... just sometimes get instincts about people...

"Sometimes it does seem like it would be great if it would all just get on with it and sort itself out" - Yes, can relate to this!

Posting on here has inspired me to start more of a blog type thing elsewhere btw but it's been quite enjoyable.

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Please excuse me posting this and obviously disregard if you wish...

Don't worry I don't mind at all. It's nice that you wanted to say this. I feels close to what I feel about things.

I'd just suggest that, under normal circumstances if you felt it was good to offer your intuitions, ask a person if they would be happy to hear what it was you wished to say. I'm sure there are alway exceptions to this general rule though. In these matters you just have to sit and wait and be mindful of what you motives are and what is really in your heart and test it to see if it is good.

Wishing you all good things,

Norbu

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Don't worry I don't mind at all. It's nice that you wanted to say this. I feels close to what I feel about things.

I'd just suggest that, under normal circumstances if you felt it was good to offer your intuitions, ask a person if they would be happy to hear what it was you wished to say. I'm sure there are alway exceptions to this general rule though. In these matters you just have to sit and wait and be mindful of what you motives are and what is really in your heart and test it to see if it is good.

Wishing you all good things,

Norbu

Yes, indeed; that's fairly obvious isn't it. I think my normal common sense/caution must have deserted me for a moment. It's firmly back in place now.

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Yes, indeed; that's fairly obvious isn't it. I think my normal common sense/caution must have deserted me for a moment. It's firmly back in place now.

Hey! No harm done. Just thought it was worth mentioning, just generally.

Norbu

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to sunanda
i really liked your answers on this thread;)

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Well thanks for that, angel roses. I had to have a read through to see what I'd said as this is a fairly old thread. I wonder how mouse is getting on now. That's the trouble sometimes with HP, we're given glimpses into other people's lives and experiences but then they disappear into the ether. Ah well....
xx

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i noticed it was an old thread,but i know you have been here a long time..

i have been doing meditation for a few yrs..
but still try different types....
your answers helped ,thank you,:)

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Well thanks for that, angel roses. I had to have a read through to see what I'd said as this is a fairly old thread. I wonder how mouse is getting on now. That's the trouble sometimes with HP, we're given glimpses into other people's lives and experiences but then they disappear into the ether. Ah well....
xx

Well, still 'vibing' away, energy sensation stronger than ever. And still no idea what is going on.

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Well, still 'vibing' away, energy sensation stronger than ever. And still no idea what is going on.

Round the moon and finally to this state "no idea what is going on" !
Spiritual ignorance is the state where much reveals itself. All the time we want to know and think we know, but what we know are mere concepts. Who knows what is going on but everyone pretend as if they do!
Good state mate!

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Yes, happy to admit that I know nothing about this...just know my own experience. It would be interesting to hear of any others (but won't hold my breath!).

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How funny to come back on here and see 6 thousand odd views and no further replies :)!
Still get the old vibrations, they seem to be a part of me I guess. Not so much the heat anymore. Perhaps it is due to something physical that is wrong with me, who knows! Have had so many illnesses/accidents in the past couple of years it wouldn't surprise me.

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How funny to come back on here and see 6 thousand odd views and no further replies :)!

You have asked, we have answered.

We HAVE answered.

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You have asked, we have answered.

We HAVE answered.

Yes, I know that people have answered! I was just surprised that although so many people had viewed the post there had been no further discussion. Not looking for answers..... but it is always interesting to see if anyone else has had similar experiences when something odd like this happens.

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hiya mouse really enjoyed following your thread.....
has i was trying to get answers ,for when i meditate...got a few,
but still not the answers i wanted..
nice to see you came back..was wondering how you are...:)

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I have no recollection of this thread whatsoever, but I saw that I did post on this thread

Just as posted on some other thread...
Mind has a way of running its show by setting an agenda to understand whats going on...because then it iss successfully foiling whatever little settling takes place during meditation. Thats all mind is interested in-running the show

Let it be. whatever it is. I am not a fan of kundalini. Mine awakened when I was very young so lots of phenomemon and plenty so called spiritual experiences happened. But what was the value in it? Nothing! No peace, no deepening of awaareness, no surrender...just empty circus of meditations and sensations. I often wonder what was that all about!!

Empty circus can however cause much distraction as one thinks they are getting somewhere, as I did. But truth is without heart connection nothing does it. Its not about experiences. They are endless. It is relaxing in the experiencer-to who all this drama happens

That is so immediate that mind cannot fathom that. For that to happen, mind has to settle, quieten, become somewhat stupid, if anything so that Truth can reveal itself. That is called surrender. That happens with grace. Grace happens with heart connection with a teacher/guru. Guru comes when you are ready and ripe and open in your heart.

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That is so immediate that mind cannot fathom that. For that to happen, mind has to settle, quieten, become somewhat stupid, if anything so that Truth can reveal itself. That is called surrender. That happens with grace. Grace happens with heart connection with a teacher/guru. Guru comes when you are ready and ripe and open in your heart.

Hello Jnani,

Would you say that a Guru was always necessary? Did or do you have a Guru?

..sorry Mouse for stepping onto your thread like this....

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Hello Jnani,

Would you say that a Guru was always necessary? Did or do you have a Guru?

..sorry Mouse for stepping onto your thread like this....

It's interesting to see some activity on here!

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