Anyone who has worked through this books succesfully? What do you do if you can't answer the questions/visualise/imagine what the exercises are asking for?
Well you've lost me now Bloke. I don't really know what kind of help you are asking for.
I really hope it isn't a wind up. That would be really sad.
Bloke, i'm shocked at your most recent reply to Celtia. You've asked for help which she has kindly given, not to mention her time and now you've ungraciously dismissed it.
Hello Martin
I wondered where you'd got to and how you were getting on. Did you get my Christmas greeting? As you never responded I wondered if it had gone astray.
Do you realise how prickly and downright unfriendly you sound on this thread? Everyone is being really kind and helpful and every comment and suggestion is bouncing off your armour. I haven't read the book so I obviously can't help you at all with your present difficulty but I would repeat advice that's been given to you many many times before: just try to lighten up a tiny bit. So many people here are trying to help you...but in the long run, it really is down to you. And if that earns me a telling off from you, so be it!
xxx
Well you've lost me now Bloke. I don't really know what kind of help you are asking for.
I really hope it isn't a wind up. That would be really sad.
As I said.
I don't remember any instances of feeling confident. That's all. I don't have memory problems. Consequently how do i perform an exercise based on a memory of something I am not able to consciously recall. There are lots of things I problably can't remember, like everyone: childhood experiences (ie memories from a long time ago) for instance.
The exercise presumes a memory, so what do you do if you can't produce a conscious recollection. That's the question. I don't think there is any need to analyse that beyond the question. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have tried this book who have had similar problems, hence the question.
Bloke, i'm shocked at your most recent reply to Celtia. You've asked for help which she has kindly given, not to mention her time and now you've ungraciously dismissed it.
There is a tone running through some people's responses; it seems that people have certain expectations on this forum that, when they are not met by those they think they are helping or advising, cause them to become defensive. This is extremely counter productive. A good example is post #13
I also made it clear that the question was directed at people who have knowledge of the book otherwise they aren't going to be in a position to understand. If you don't understand the process how can you offer any help? The question requires knowledge of the book, without it you are not helping. You may think you are, but sadly that just causes more confusion.
My responses are to the point. They are not rude nor are they ungrateful and it is not for people to make judgements which are merely inferrances based on their own thought processes rather than mine (since they are not privvy to mine). This is also extremely unhelpful. I do not appreciate being called ungrateful when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have responded to people's posts with courtesy and respect; I have not been the slightest bit rude. I am not prepared to tolerate people's attitudes in this manner. If you don't like the way another poster posts then by all means don't read what they say, but don't make unwarranted assumptions. Leave your judgements and assumptions at the door.
Hey Bloke.........are you jesting with us.......;)......are you on a massive wind up :011:
that is actually a poor thing to say.
Perhaps change your life in 7 days is a little ambitious bloke?
Perhaps change one thing, One day at a time is more appropriate?
I had the book many years ago, but it confused me too if I recall correctly, I would move onto something else....:)
I don't know. I'm merely trying to follow what's in the book, whether it really can change people's lives in 7 days is another question. I don't really want to second guess the author. That's not healthy imo.
There is a tone running through some people's responses; it seems that people have certain expectations on this forum that, when they are not met by those they think they are helping or advising, cause them to become defensive. This is extremely counter productive. A good example is post #13
I also made it clear that the question was directed at people who have knowledge of the book otherwise they aren't going to be in a position to understand. If you don't understand the process how can you offer any help? The question requires knowledge of the book, without it you are not helping. You may think you are, but sadly that just causes more confusion.
My responses are to the point. They are not rude nor are they ungrateful and it is not for people to make judgements which are merely inferrances based on their own thought processes rather than mine (since they are not privvy to mine). This is also extremely unhelpful. I do not appreciate being called ungrateful when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have responded to people's posts with courtesy and respect; I have not been the slightest bit rude. I am not prepared to tolerate people's attitudes in this manner. If you don't like the way another poster posts then by all means don't read what they say, but don't make unwarranted assumptions. Leave your judgements and assumptions at the door.
Just as you're entitled to have your opinion Bloke, I'm entitled to have mine and to me, you do come across as ungracious in this particular instance. The help you were seeking was kindly given, but its been dismissed and it's like others are being put through continual hoops.
While you have specifically asked for people to respond only to have knowledge of the book, others are free, however to offer alternative views.
I don't know. I'm merely trying to follow what's in the book, whether it really can change people's lives in 7 days is another question. I don't really want to second guess the author. That's not healthy imo.
Have you used the CD that comes with the book?
I never suggested second guessing the author..just an alternative way.....you may be stuck in a groove bloke....but I don't intend...good luck, I'm outta here..:)
Just as you're entitled to have your opinion Bloke, I'm entitled to have mine and to me, you do come across as ungracious in this particular instance. The help you were seeking was kindly given, but its been dismissed and it's like others are being put through continual hoops.
While you have specifically asked for people to respond only to have knowledge of the book, others are free, however to offer alternative views.
I think you are spoiling for an argument.
Claiming entitlement to post doesn't confer you immunity to criticism for what you post. Nor does it entitle you to claim offence where none was given. Your reading of the situation is neither helpful nor accurate. I asked a specific question of a specific body of work; alternative views don't help for the reasons already explaiend. You are not immune from criticism when you explicitly choose to post something in contradiction to that. Especially something like 'why don't you try the exercises for yourself' That isn't remotely helpful and suggests a total lack of respect and understanding of the very point of the thread - again for reasons already made clear. There has been nothing ungracious said at all by me - quite apart from people demonstrating a deliberate lack of understanding of the very point of the thread. If that's not disrespectful I don't know what is.
If you want to contribute something, then please do so. But if you contribute something that is disrespectful or ignorant, then you can't complain when this is pointed out. You are not being helpful just because you post at all.
Have you used the CD that comes with the book?
I never suggested second guessing the author..just an alternative way.....you may be stuck in a groove bloke....but I don't intend...good luck, I'm outta here..:)
I use the cd every day. the cd doesn't explain the exercises any further than the book; that's not the point of it.
I didn't say you were suggesting that. I merely made the point that trying to reinterpret the exercises isn't the right course of action.
Suggesting doing one thing a day is what the book is about. This is why it is important that respondents are familiar with it. You are suggesting what the book already does.
Bloke, I seriously think that as Celtia has said this is a WIND UP by you,because it definitely is not NORMAL behaviour, you seem to get enjoyment out of insulting people,well I hope there will be no more advice offered here as you are taking it all as a BIG JOKE.
I'm not spoiling for an argument at all bloke, as I do have better things to do with my time. 😀
Seeing as others responses aren't to your satisfaction, I would suggest contacting Paul McKenna direct and ask him how best to use the book.
I think you are spoiling for an argument.
I would respectfully point out Bloke, that this is exactly how your posts come across. I cannot see any occasion where people have deliberately misunderstood you as you claim.
You said you had difficulty remembering a time when...... and when I asked if you found it difficult to recall things in general you said No. So (imho) it is a reasonable question to ask why it is difficult in this instance. What happens when you try? It may give some valuable insights and help with the process as a whole.
But anyway - I have been down this road before and you have not found it helpful, so I will bow out gracefully I think.
Bloke, I seriously think that as Celtia has said this is a WIND UP by you,because it definitely is not NORMAL behaviour, you seem to get enjoyment out of insulting people,well I hope there will be no more advice offered here as you are taking it all as a BIG JOKE.
Just where have i insulted anyone; just one example will do.
I'm not spoiling for an argument at all bloke, as I do have better things to do with my time. 😀
Seeing as others responses aren't to your satisfaction, I would suggest contacting Paul McKenna direct and ask him how best to use the book.
that's just being facetious. you clearly haven't even read what i've written if that's what you think. yet you have the audacity to call me rude. I think that's extraordinary.
I would respectfully point out Bloke, that this is exactly how your posts come across. I cannot see any occasion where people have deliberately misunderstood you as you claim.
even though i gave one such example in the post to which you are responding.
that's just being facetious. you clearly haven't even read what i've written if that's what you think. yet you have the audacity to call me rude. I think that's extraordinary.
Yes, I have read your posts to me Bloke, and in conjunction to how you respond to others, it's becoming more and more apparent you are ungracious to other members help and take extreme exception when someone questions your intentions/your manner. And as for me being facetious, I was being factual-if you want to know how to use the book properly, then get it direct from the man himself if you're not finding others help useful.
Maybe bloke would find it helpful to read other threads throughout this site where this general area and allied issues are discussed? .... Just a thought...
Just where have i insulted anyone; just one example will do.
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That's just sneering and snide. It's not an answer to the question.
Yes, I have read your posts to me Bloke, and in conjunction to how you respond to others, it's becoming more and more apparent you are ungracious to other members help and take extreme exception when someone questions your intentions/your manner. And as for me being facetious, I was being factual-if you want to know how to use the book properly, then get it direct from the man himself if you're not finding others help useful.
then provide an example, instead of continually throwing examples in a rude and offhand manner. Back up what you say please.
I gave you an example in the form of your response to Celtia, and I'm not being rude or off hand, just stating how I see you respond-its called constructive criticism.;)
That's just sneering and snide. It's not an answer to the question.
But....you don't take on board any answers to any questions....
What you have to remember is that a number of people on this thread have turned their lives around and speak from genuine experience with the kindest motives...to have this 'guidance' ingored and criticised, is in itself, insulting...
Anyone who has worked through this books succesfully? What do you do if you can't answer the questions/visualise/imagine what the exercises are asking for?
Hi Bloke, I don't have this book you refer to but can I ask a question?
It seems that the issue may be one of visualising. For example, when you visualise are you expecting to 'see' something?
Hi Bloke, I don't have this book you refer to but can I ask a question?
It seems that the issue may be one of visualising. For example, when you visualise are you expecting to 'see' something?
That is correct. The visualisations call for the practitioner to visualise your ideal self (for example). This process involves visualising what that self looks like and what they are doing and how they go through their day, for example. I think all the visualtions encompass components like this.
But....you don't take on board any answers to any questions....
What you have to remember is that a number of people on this thread have turned their lives around and speak from genuine experience with the kindest motives...to have this 'guidance' ingored and criticised, is in itself, insulting...
please define 'take on board'.
please define 'take on board'.
To take on board....to cogitate, consider, reflect upon, ponder or ruminate upon
crabapple xx
To take on board....to cogitate, consider, reflect upon, ponder or ruminate upon
crabapple xx
and you assume that i haven't done this? based on what?