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This is partly metaphysical as well as psychological.
I went through a bad patch where in my mind I felt very out of control as if life was happening around me / at me. I was rushing into things / making decisions that should have been more better thought out. My mind felt very mixed up - had just ended a destructive relationship, had a dysfunctional childhood & had the added stress of hanging onto my career to find it all slipping away from me. I suddenly had a spiritual awakening and decided to start all over again and throw away the negative thinking patterns.
Is feeling in control of your life really just a state of mind & if you think you are in control you are, rather than feeling like a passive victim / bystander of life? I have noticed that the worry /negative thinking vibration creates a very low energy where you end up where you don't want to be. My philosophy these days is there is no point worrying over things. I have learnt my lesson.

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Hi Light-worker

It has more to do with taking personal responsibility on board than anything else, when we choose to blame others for things then we simply dis-empower ourselves, when we focus upon things, we have more chance of manifesting them, so worrying about something is the quickest way of bringing them about, when we are happy to take control of self, then we put our self in the driving seat, the more we stop judging self the more open we are open to live life to the full and embrace this life experience, life does not change, we do. 😉

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Hi there again my friend.
Thanx for the reply. I guess worrying about holding down a job is the best way of pushing it away from you. I've concluded that no worry is the best way + like attracts like down here. I've suffered faulty conditioning from parents that worry a lot so I guess some stems from that but in terms of not blaming others we are ultimately our own people in the end.

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How easy are you finding it to "just stop worrying"?

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How easy are you finding it to "just stop worrying"?

Yeah it is hard but you start to realise its the only way otherwise you would live your life in fear

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There are practices that can make it easier - have you looked into shamanism and soul retrieval for example? This is my example because it's what I know most about but there are almost certainly others.

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Most people have difficulty recognising that they are in control of their feelings......and that how we feel and react to things is a choice we make.

Yes it is possible to spend a lot of energy worrying fruitlessly about things we have no control over. But sometimes strong negative feelings can be a signal that there is something we need to attend to.

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That was one of the first things I ever looked into. Im very up for a soul retrieval at some point. I think a lot of things are down to the power of your own mind

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Im very up for a soul retrieval at some point. I think a lot of things are down to the power of your own mind

If it's down to the power of your own mind, in what way will soul retrieval help?

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If it's down to the power of your own mind, in what way will soul retrieval help?

Well I think there are loads of spiritual practices down here which are great & can assist us but I also believe we are creators of our own reality and the energy we give out is what we get back.

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If it's down to the power of your own mind, in what way will soul retrieval help?

Well I think there are loads of spiritual practices down here which are great & can assist us but I also believe we are creators of our own reality and the energy we give out is what we get back.

'Soul' 'Spirit' and 'Mind' mean different things to different people. I personally feel we are at our best when we are mentally physically and spiritually healthy and all three aspects are balanced.

Where 'soul' fits into this is something I am not sure about...as I am not sure I know what shamanism means by 'soul'.....and I look forward to Crowan's explanation. But I can see where she is coming from with her response to you.

Yes we DO create our own reality with our thoughts, and the more positive our thoughts the better things are. But I think the law of attraction (which is what you are using) is over simplified. I believe if someone wants something that is harmful to someone to else or not in alignment with the path the universe wants them to follow (could we call that a soul purpose???) then you won't get it OR you will achieve it only at great cost to yourself.. .....possibly loss of part of the soul???????? I don't know.

But if that is the case then retrieval of it is more than just 'mind over matter' and thinking 'happy thoughts' won't do it. It would mean recognising where you are had gone wrong to cause the soul loss and changing things at a fundamental level.

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'Soul' 'Spirit' and 'Mind' mean different things to different people. I personally feel we are at our best when we are mentally physically and spiritually healthy and all three aspects are balanced.

Where 'soul' fits into this is something I am not sure about...as I am not sure I know what shamanism means by 'soul'.....and I look forward to Crowan's explanation. But I can see where she is coming from with her response to you.

I'll do my best. There's not a lot of difference between "soul" and "spirit" - we tend to use "soul" for that part that goes (or tries to go) to the Land of the Dead after death - the part that continues into other lives. But this is loose - we could say "spirit". I think one reason that we use "soul" is that our language is influenced by Christianity however much we try to avoid it!

However, whatever it is called, it can fracture and part of it be lost - hence "soul loss".

Yes we DO create our own reality with our thoughts, and the more positive our thoughts the better things are. But I think the law of attraction (which is what you are using) is over simplified. I believe if someone wants something that is harmful to someone to else or not in alignment with the path the universe wants them to follow (could we call that a soul purpose???) then you won't get it OR you will achieve it only at great cost to yourself.. .....possibly loss of part of the soul???????? I don't know.

But if that is the case then retrieval of it is more than just 'mind over matter' and thinking 'happy thoughts' won't do it. It would mean recognising where you are had gone wrong to cause the soul loss and changing things at a fundamental level.

That's not the only cause of soul loss, although it is one. Others are trauma, ongoing loss of power, anything that chips away at us day by day, the moment in childhood that we realise for the first time we can't do whatever we want to do (that's a common one). By the time anyone in our culture reaches adulthood, chances are s/he has lost soul.
I agree that the recognising and changing at a deep level is necessary, but this is necessary for the soul to stay once it has returned - it isn't enough to get it to come back. It may be lost and unable to find its way back. It may not know that you have changed. There are many reasons. Hence the task of a shaman to go to find it wherever it is a persuade it to come back.
It may itself be injured and need healing before it is safe to bring it back. Or something else may have settled into you in the space that it left (what we call an "intrusion", but others might refer to as an "entity").
None of this healing can be achieved by "positive thoughts" - although you would have to take the responsibility to seek the healing in the first place.

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Hi Light-worker

It has more to do with taking personal responsibility on board than anything else, when we choose to blame others for things then we simply dis-empower ourselves, when we focus upon things, we have more chance of manifesting them, so worrying about something is the quickest way of bringing them about, when we are happy to take control of self, then we put our self in the driving seat, the more we stop judging self the more open we are open to live life to the full and embrace this life experience, life does not change, we do. 😉

This is lovely. At the time this was all a lot to take in. It's making more sense now.

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