I recently went vegetarian and since then some really bad symptoms such as constipation and heartburn cleared up.
It is a theory of mine that animals are not designed to eat animals.
In fact I believe that it is meat that is causing cancer and obesity.
The reason is this:
Animal DNA is not fully expired on cooking and that the spirit of the animal has memory of what has happened to it and this is transferred to the consumer.
This leads to a build up of pain and suffering in the consumer and the food chain, and causes a build up of non compatible animal components in the human, or cat, or dog.
Also there are fungal parasites and other types of fungi that feed on the meat in the guts and produce toxins which in turn give the signal for cancer, to the body.
In addition, if you view the human body as if it were a tree, all it basically needs is mineral and water.
The human frame is adapted beyond photosynthesis or rather it has evolved as a plant eating tree, therefore it still needs minerals but it appears to need plant sugars and proteins as well.
I recently had a bout of bronchitis and being my own physician I decided to try orange juice and oil ( rapeseed ),
After drinking one cup of oil a day and a litre of orange juice a day, my health rapidly improved and after a week despite my continued smoking my lungs felt like an athletes.
My cancer symptoms - lethargy and sickness, had also gone
My heartburn and gall bladder complaints also cleared up and my skin colour went from blueish purple to being healthy pinkish white.
I also passed multiple gallstones,
If this has been of help to anyone please say as I would like to hear other peoples experiences.
There are a number of web sites on the net which are approved or written by bona fide MD medical doctors and these sites also suggest oil and orange or lemon juice for gallbladder complaints.
On another occasion I discovered that my gall bladder had actually blocked and that my liver was full of old medication - about 2 years worth came up in my vomit, thereafter I did not feel like I was nearly dead.
From what I can make out - the gall bladder will continue to block until full gut function and reduction of the digestive tract is restored.
IE : If your guts block up and build up you will end up dying.
( perhaps this is one reason people grow old - if not through obesity it is from a blockage of the gall bladder and a meat and salt rich diet.)
Your thoughts please.
Well said !
When I was diagnosed with cancer 38 months ago, my consumption of meat went way down. No red meat at all, fish and chicken mostly (and sparingly) with a very heavy leaning toward a vegetarian diet. In fact, I said in these forums that I felt a vegetarian life style would be extremely beneficial to anyone with cancer and ALL generally. I take a myriad of supplements along with what I would term a very healty diet and seem to have gotten some great results from it. The cancer appears dormant and I no longer require glasses for driving ( the doctor says this isn't possible due to glaucoma and optic nerve damage-sorry) after having worn them for over fifty years. He walked out of the exam muttering something to himself ...."this can't be........". I am more convinced than ever that cancer can be beaten, but not with what traditional medicine is offering to us today. Oh, my herbalists say that the eyesight restoration is a 'side effect' from my holistic approach-and I didn't compromise my immune system or lose any hair (got lots of that). Keep doing what you're doing !!!
My best wishes to you!
kcat
Eating meat doesn't result in obesity. And I know some obese vegetarians.
Meat and health is linked... what sort of crap do they feed the animals? Then again, what sort of crap do they spray into the ground and on the leaves of the vegetables we eat?
As for animals not eating meat, what about carnivores that only eat meat?
Anyway, the consumption of food which dictates one's health and obesity potential are not necessarily related. I know plenty of overweight people who don't eat at McDonalds. I know plenty of slim people who don't touch much (if any) vegetables.
I am all for vegetarianism from a health perspective but I am sure some of the pro-vegetarian arguements need questioning. There are lots of grey areas.
After drinking one cup of oil a day and a litre of orange juice a day, my health rapidly improved and after a week despite my continued smoking my lungs felt like an athletes.
My cancer symptoms - lethargy and sickness, had also gone
Hi Patience, excuse me if I am being thick but does the comment above suggest you actually had cancer? While I think it is good to give up red meat, or at least cut down as much as possible, there are proteins and iodines to be found in fish and poultry (unless of course your reason is a also a totally humane one which is admirable). I think though that the other problem could be your continued smoking which may have caused some of your other symptons though. I suppose what I am saying is whilst I think it's very good to get on to a health veggie diet and unblock the gut, don't forget what the "weed" can also be doing to your health.
Love
There is a lot of evidence linking eating certain vegetable such as broccoli and swiss chard in the prevention of cancer. Also turmeric seems to have real cancer busting properties. On the other side certain highly processed meats such as bacon and sausages do increase cancer risks. A review of diet and cancer can be found at the [url]Naturopathic Health[/url] web site
The [url]Gerson Institute[/url] tackles cancer using diet in particular juicing of vegetables. However there is no link with vegetarianism and reduced cancer risk
Cancer is down to one thing. Failure of the Immune System to prevent 'rogue' cells proliferating. So, I think it follows that whatever one does, or does not do, which may weaken the Immune response, may lead to the development of cancer. There are many things which could do this. Our systems are (usually) quite finely-balanced, but capable of restoring balance quite naturally if, for example we do unwise things (staying out all night, working too hard, eating some junk food, having a few too many drinks, etc...)
It's only when we tip the balance too hard and too far, by any non-life-affirming habit, on a regular basis, or on a profound level, and Nature cannot redress this balance sufficiently -that problems arise.
Unless we have a specific allergy-problem, then I think we need good, all-round nutrition (containing full-spectrum vitamins/minerals A-Z: adequate proteins, carbohydrates, and fluids) to stay healthy.
It is quite possible to achieve this with a well-thought-out Vegetarian diet. But it is not imperative. If we eat meat, then surely it's a better option to make sure our meat/fish, etc is from well-nourished, organically reared (or wild) sources? And more importantly, that we make sure Balance is the keynote of our lives?
No argument here !!
'Failure of the immune system'- it sounds so simple and straightforward, yet, that is all that stands between good health and disease (like cancer). Our current life styles coupled with pollution and poor dietetic choices have put us where we are today. Since I was diagnosed 41 months ago, I have made my immune system the focus of my life-truly. In that time period, I have been sick a total of four hours (flu). My doctor says no one gets the flu for only four hours and feels that perhaps my immune system is in such a heightened state that it could have dealt with it in such a short period of time. My wife and I had it at the same time-vomiting and diarhea-hers lasted for the duration;mine was gone in four hours.
......heal thy self......
kcat
The links below have info about the link between cancer, heart disease, asthma, and other health problems related to meat and dairy consumption.
[DLMURL="http://www.viva.org.uk/goingveggie/whygoveggie/health1.htm"]Health[/DLMURL]
[DLMURL="http://www.viva.org.uk/guides/healthiestdietofall.htm"]Your Health in Your Hands [/DLMURL]
No argument here!
Good stuff, Vegan! If only a few would do some...........
kcat
It is a theory of mine that animals are not designed to eat animals.
did you meant humans ....but you are right with animals as well me thinks.
also believe that dairy and meat plays a big part in causing cancer.
many people think without dairy there have trouble of getting enough protein
here is an interesting clip called the protein myth.
the industries (dairy, meat, pharma...) would love to continue earning money like mad so of course it is not in their interrest to get the truth out.
Thanks kcatejay :p
And yes happychica you are spot on re the meat/dairy/pharm industry and truth.
To think amongst other rubbish there are over 250'000 puss cells in every tea spoon of cows milk, yes tea spoon.!!!!!
yuck.
To think amongst other rubbish there are over 250'000 puss cells in every tea spoon of cows milk, yes tea spoon.!!!!!
Can you show me the evidence for this. :confused:
We had a discussion about it and it was apparent that somatic cells were being assumed to be puss cells and whilst puss cells are somatic cells, it doesn't necessarily follow that somatic cells are puss cells.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
[DLMURL] http://www.vegetarian.org.uk/campaigns/whitelies/index.html [/DLMURL]
[DLMURL] http://www.viva.org.uk/guides/hownowmadcow.htm#IsMilkSafe [/DLMURL]
On you tube -
Milk The Deadly Poison WATCH THIS!!!
This is some of the info for you Energylz:D
The first article says...
The cow responds to the infection by generating white blood cells (somatic cells) which migrate to the affected area in an effort to combat the infection. These cells, along with cellular debris and necrotic (dead) tissue, are a component of pus and are excreted into the milk.
From what I found, somatic cells are almost any cell of the body (except fat cells I think it was without going back and looking). The above suggests that somatic cells are the white blood cells and they are a component of pus. However my own research (as we talked about on the other thread) would suggest that pus is actually a form of somatic cells itself and is a sub-component of somatic cells as there are others such as skin cells. Therefore just because there are somatic cells does not automatically indicate there is definitely pus. The above section of the article appears to have got it the wrong way around.
The second link is, again, making a direct link between somatic cells and pus suggesting the two are the same thing. Clearly incorrect and influenced by a biased view.
The third link actually says...
It is probable that puss from the swollen udders could enter the milk supply but is unlikely to be present in sufficient quantity to present a risk.
Which is a little more truthful at least.
Too late to watch the video at the minute as I'll disturb the other half, but will have a look when I get back on in the daytime soon.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
I dont know about it...i m vegetarian...
Thanks...
I eat two sticks a day with beans at dinner. I then have Chicken & rice for a pre-workout. I've started body-building, hence the healthy eating. However, I think meats good for you, unless of course your elderly, bad heart ect ect.
Yes, of course, eating some ones fat and body obliviously would cause cancer, meat is so fattening and greasy. all the fat will just surround the heart, cause obesity and heart ache and then boom the carnivore is dead. oh well they deserve it, they ate dead animals now I hope there dead body gets eaten from animals like they ate the animals body.
What goes around comes around its called karma - Animals will get there revenge one day.
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Actualy meat eating is bad for health only good thing about meat is itz protein factor which can be replaced by fish and soy beans.
Actualy meat eating is bad for health only good thing about meat is itz protein factor which can be replaced by fish and soy beans.
I'd disagree with that generalisation, sure eating too much meat is bad for health, particularly red meat.
Myarka.
I have been veggie for about 30 years and I am fat!!! my wife has been veggie for about 25 years and has cancer.
While I would agree that eating meat is bad, it's much more a morale thing with me rather than a health thing. I principle I could eat free range meat, I choose not to.
However if you have a poor diet and little exercise, you will suffer no matter what your diet is, I guess that could explain my circumference and maybe my wife's cancer.
I know this thread is old but I found this topic to be very interesting. The meat vs vegetarian diet debate has been raging for quit some time. However, I don't sense that our ancestors many thousands of years ago quite had these same issues that we do today. Let me just say that it has been shown that eating a lot of meat can be very debilitating for your health. A lot of meat as well as many of the processed/artificial foods we see today being sold in grocery stores can cause many different ailments/diseases in the body. So I have no problem with a vegetarian diet. But in reality, not every single human being will follow that path. You will always have those that will follow some type of meat diet. We just have to be realistic. The key is not to eat too much meat, especially processed meat with hormones, antibiotics, etc. Grass/vegetarian fed meat is a much better option. You should make sure that at least 90% of your diet consists of fruits, vegetables, and grain. The rest can consist of meat if you choose to eat meat. Take care!:)
There are many factors to cancer, diet is of course one of them, we then need to look at pollution, chemicals in our bodies, mercury in our fillings, over-medication, aluminium consumption, flouride in the water, over-vaccinations.
I'm sure there are many contributers to the growth in cancer, but simple fact is that because we live longer there is a greater risk of developing cancer.
I don't think I've seen any correlating data to link cancer to:
- over-medication,
- flouride in the water
- over-vaccinations
Myarka.
I don't think I've seen any correlating data to link cancer to:
- over-medication,
- flouride in the water
- over-vaccinations
Anything that isn't natural to the body has the potential to cause cancer. Vaccinations contain mercury; flouride has no place in our bodies either or the common use of medications to treat ourselves.
We are not just bodies, we are energy fields, and all these toxins weaken our energy field before manifesting on the physical body.
Anything that isn't natural to the body has the potential to cause cancer. Vaccinations contain mercury; flouride has no place in our bodies either or the common use of medications to treat ourselves.
According to the NHS no childhood vaccinations contain mercury:
Only 5.5 million of the UKs population have flouride in the water, 500000 have occuring naturally, the rest 50 million or so don't have flouride in the water.
As for modern medicine, I wouldn't be here without it. It's sad we live in a world with there are 100s of millions in the world that have no access to medicine. 1000s die every day from common deseases.
As for
We are not just bodies, we are energy fields, and all these toxins weaken our energy field before manifesting on the physical body.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Namaste,
Myarka
What? You actually think you are just a body?
Yep, let's agree to disagree then!
You actually think you are just a body?
No, I did say that.
We are body, mind and soul. We are part of the unity of creation, i.e. part of the whole.
Myarka.
So, clearly you are not just a body then!
So, clearly you are not just a body then!
And I'm not an energy field.
I contain Ki, my life energy and a facet of my soul and being.
Now we're way :offtopic:
Therefore to come back to the posted topic....
Over consumption of meat is a contributing factor in cancer as well as lifestyle and age.
Myarka.
I think we're splitting hairs. At our most basic level we are pure energy.
Now back to topic!