Feeling exhausted

Hello Meadowsweet

Sorry I dont have any suggestions but just wanted to wish you well. Take care of yourself and I hope you feel better soon.

xx

Sounds like you might have a reaction to the anasthetic - I had similar after gall bladder op some years ago - get back to your gp! I just had to bite the bullet and rest properly - got there in the end!

Hope you feel better soon.

If you have picked up a virus then marilyn Glenville recommends 2-3grams of vitamin C three times a day is a good antiviral. I find cats's claw helps boost the immune system.

Is there any way you can rest? Fighting a bug while still working is not the best for the body!

Thank you for the responses,

Reaction to the anaesthetic could be a possibility as I went very cold within an hour of getting home from the hospital and had to snuggle up in bed for a few hours until I'd warmed through.

Will see about getting some vit c and cat's claw see if that helps.

Work wise, I am working from home, but I'm a contractor so if I don't work I don't get paid and as the current climate with regards jobs is so iffy I don't feel I can take time out to rest for too long. I will try to work some rest time into my day though. At least I don't have a commute to contend with. 🙂

Hi Meadowsweet,

I think you are weak at this point and you need to have a better diet and rest. Try to live regularly would help you back to your balance. Sorry that's all I can say now.

Hope you feel better soon!

Lingling x

Is there any redness around the biopsy site? It may be worthy of a check by your GP to rule out infection, which would require anti-biotics.

Op site is healing well no redness and the swelling has gone now. Stitches are feeling tight and its itching like mad so all a good sign. lol

I really ought to rest, I'm going to miss college this evening and get to bed after I finish work and had dinner and rest and read. Been out for a very short walk (10mins) during my lunch hour. Boy was there an icy wind.

Thank you again for the suggestions. Not been able to get cat's claw, but have picked up some vitamin c with zinc which I'm sure will give me a little boost and help fend off any virus.

The adaptogenic herbs are good for pretty much anything, they help increase your bodies resistance to stress whether thats a physical ailment or emotional.

Many of them have anti-cancer and immune boosting properties also. Good adaptogens are jiaogulan, schizandra berry, ashwagandha, reishi, licorice root, maca root, suma root etc.

They will help increase your energy, without stimulating the CNS thus not harming the adrenal glands.

Feeling cold and tired indicates a fever, and you've reported a slight raise in temperature. This is a good thing!

Go to bed an make the most of it - the worst thing you can do is to try to fight or 'solve' a fever. It is one of the most important healing processes, especially with a history of cancer. It doubles the transport of immune cells via the blood, and it purges the body of cancer cells.

In fact cancer cells die at around 39 C, whereas we can tolerate much higher temperatures quite safely. So when we treat people with a history of cancer, we usually greet the onset of a fever with glee - it marks the turning of the tide.

Plus the process is sefl-regulating, so it doesn't go out of control. Admitedly it's not much fun, but if you rest totally you should find it quite comfortable. Get a friend to feel your hands and feet - as long as they are warm then everything should be fine. If they are cold, then check back for further ideas.

So rest up, keep warm, and well hydrated, and clear your diary for the next few days.

Of course, why it has happened just now is hard to say without a lot more information. Nevertheless, the advice is still the same - give in to it and do not fear the fever.:048:

Thank you for all the replies. I think I've finally come out the other side. Last few days I've been able to sit and knit or read after finishing work without nodding off. I felt really wiped and it just wasn't me at all.

Temperature was about 38c so not significantly high but still enough for me to notice I wasn't right. I've kept myself wrapped up warm and drank plenty of warm drinks too. My hands and feet felt icy to the touch, but that's sorted now also.

I mentioned it to the Nurse today when I went for a wound review and she thought it sounded like a virus that I must have picked up.

I'm continuing to take it easy for a few more days, doing my work with the addition of plenty of short walk about breaks in between.

Thanks again

You want another way of looking at this?

When an explanation is needed, of course a virus comes to the rescue - it always does. In truth the nurse does not know, and how can she? At best it's a wild guess.

Many fevers arise for no apparent reason. What we think is happening is that periodically the body needs a shut-down for maintenance, sometimes this includes the elimination of waste material from tissue repair or release of stored toxins. Sure, you can always find a virus, or a bacterium - we are full of these things all the time.

So this isn't affliction, it's physiology. Occasionally leaves fall from trees, it isn't a virus, occasionally we need to recover from the demands of our work, or get a craving for food containing something we need. Occasionally we need to vomit or get diarrhoea to expel what is not wanted. This is not disease, it is recovery.

So none of this needs a virus. So occasionally we need a fever or a duvet day, or an eliminative event to accomplish some internal maintenance.

By 'pressing ahead', the process becomes diverted, or suppressed even - one effect of adrenaline is to suppress symptoms. But we feel lousy afterwards. Taking paracetamol, or caffeine etc doesn't cure us, it lowers a fever perhaps, or keeps us going for a while, but doesn't stop us being exhausted inside. That's why users of antivirals are more at risk of serious respiritory complications, because it allows them to soldier on without initially feeling the exhaustion - they become more exhausted.

One theory is that many of the deaths form the 1918 flu pandemic were actually caused by the dangerously high doses of aspirin given to sufferers - up to 30 g per day!!! So during the war it kept them going in the trenches long enough to get shot instead. Taking this treatment into civvy street revealed what happens if you keep up this approach for too long - the patient suffers haemorrhagic bacterial pneumonia and drowns in their own blood.

When you get symptoms, it's necessary to stop - and give in. And perhaps seek help for the underlying cause, if there seems to be anything abnormal about it.

On the radio today, they described depression as a diseas not of the weak, but of the strong - the people who keep going come hell and high water. 'Selfish people don't get depression' was the phrase they used. In fact many diseases come of selflessness and perseverance. The energy has to come from somewhere, and when the petrol light comes on you can't ignore it.

Next time...

Not sure that I'd agree that selfish people don't get depression. I've met, and heard of, quite a few depressed selfish people!

That's very interesting about cancer cells dying at around 39°. So the cancer cells just die and the "normal" cells are OK?

xxx