Autism treatable:

Sadly this old news, I remember the hysteria when mums started screeching about how MMR jabs had turned their kids autistic. Yet there was no scientific proof to back it up. I know vaccine companies have an unhealthy preservation of self interest but I think we need a scientific evaluation for people who arent in the vaccine companies pockets

I remember the hysteria when mums started screeching about how MMR jabs had turned their kids autistic.

...are you kidding?

If only, [url]MMR vaccine controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

If only, [url]MMR vaccine controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Yeah, I know about the MMR vaccine controversy... sorry Finalshine, I meant that, my eyes popped a bit when I read that you'd written:

"the hysteria when mums started screeching about how MMR jabs had turned their kids autistic. "

... I thought - blimey, any mothers with an autistic child (or children) who read those words and are convinced (rightly or wrongly) that their childs autism is due to their MMR vaccine will not appreciate the words "hysteria" and "screeching" ...

...but, you have the right to express yourself with whatever words you wish.... I was just slightly taken aback...

Take Care:)

Me too , thought the words could have been chosen better mate , but you are entitled to word them how you want i guess .
At the time of the MMR health scare , the parents you refer to, if they felt the artcile was true surely would "Screech" as you put it . I would . Ok later it appears that the author of the article had indeed manipulated evidence amongst other things and there was no actual basis or proof for his claim .
But to chastise these "mums" who at the time felt it true ... who can blame them.
Namaste
Corum

Sadly MMR info is still floating around, it has been disputed, but the bottom line is that development checks and MMR Immunisation is around the same time. Around the age of two, development miles stones become more noticable. With all immunisation there is a risk, but actually getting the full blown Measles, Mumps and Rubella is more of a risk. Why do you think the vaccine was devolped!

Sadly I have experience of children who have developed the full blown Measles, Mumps and Rubella as well of complications with immunisation, sadly there is no known cure for everything, in the (recent) past children who received no immunisation didnt develope symptoms as those around them who were immunised/protected them from infections, but with less children immunised the risk becomes greater:( I could point you in the direction of case studies, but you can do this yourself as the subject is well documented.

As for being autisic I have no idea why this is triggered or how to turn off the trigger, famillies dealing with this or any disoder need help practical solutions and support xxx

Those words were used intentionally. Granted some mothers were upset and worried, but the hysteria that issued despite the reassurance from the medical community put a drain on already over stretched GPs.

Tongue acupuncture

the BBC has reported that the tongue acupuncture has show can help the problem. meedle free has also been tried (in London) with difficulty- as the patient can not stay still for too long.

Hi,

My friends child was diagnosed as mildly autistic. my friend went to the homeopath and he had remedies for a while which seemed to help a lot(He was not verbal at all and now he has begun to talk) She then did some research in to the MMR and felt this was connected.

The significant thing to be aware of is that in the MMR vaccine given on the NHS there are high levels of heavy metals, including Mercury. Mercury poisoning has a simular appearance to Autism. There are also other nasties in the vaccinations. For anyone wanting to know the ingredients you can do a search on google. It is listed on the NHS websites.

If you still wanted your child to have the vaccinations then if you have them done at a private clinic they are without the heavy metals.

Finalshine, it is the GPs job to deal compassionatly with any parent wishing to understand the impact of drugs they administer on their childs life. It is their job. Id be pretty upset (hysterical?) l if i went to see a Natural practioner for my child and they ended up with the symptoms of Autism.....?
Also GPs recieve a bonus for each vaccinated child. The pharmaceutical industry is a big profit making business rather than a big healing business.

theres a really good booklet called Vaccination Myths which is worth reading

If damage has been done from the vaccinations then this can be cleared by Homeopathy

w*w

Seriously time to stop blindly accepting the authority of the medical profession

This is in America but its only one example of the big lottery played with our health when we try to rely on conventional medicine

[url]Major drug research company faked thousands of documents to get drugs approved, FDA says no big deal[/url]

its a big business. these big pharma what would happen to them if people really got well, like vibrantly healthy???

Sadly this old news, I remember the hysteria when mums started screeching about how MMR jabs had turned their kids autistic. Yet there was no scientific proof to back it up. I know vaccine companies have an unhealthy preservation of self interest but I think we need a scientific evaluation for people who arent in the vaccine companies pockets

[url]Doctor struck off over MMR controversy clears name after GMC dismissal is over-ruled by High Court | Mail Online[/url]

[url]New Evidence Supports Dr. Wakefield's MMR Vaccine Study[/url]

The significant thing to be aware of is that in the MMR vaccine given on the NHS there are high levels of heavy metals, including Mercury. Mercury poisoning has a simular appearance to Autism.

I don’t know about the UK, but, in the USA. since the year 2000, thiomersal (mercury containing compound used in vaccinations) has been phased out in most paediatric vaccines, with no decrease in ASD.
There has actually been an increase in diagnosis, as there has in the UK, in those 12 years – probably because of better detection.

hi Crowan

thanks for the info. was not aware of that.

would be interested to know of any studies on the vaccines. wonder what it is that is causing this effect.

maybe it is more of a spirit response to what is added to the vaccine.

w*w

Hi,

Just had a google....found this

From GlaxoSmithKline MMR Vaccine Leafltet-

4.8. Undesirable Effects
In controlled clinical studies in children aged from 9 months to 2 years, signs and symptoms were actively monitored on more than 5400 vaccinees during a 42-day follow-up period. The vaccinees were also requested to report any clinical events during the study period. The following adverse reactions were considered to have at least a suspected causal relationship with vaccination.

frequencies are reported as:
Very common: > or = 10%
Common: > or = 1% and or = 0.1% and or = 0.01% and < 0.1%
Very rare: 38.5°C when measured orally or by the axillary route Central and peripheral nervous system:
uncommon: febrile convulsions very rare: peripheral neuritis
uncommon: parotid swelling Gastro-intestinal system:
uncommon: diarrhoea, vomiting Psychiatric:
uncommon: nervousness Resistance mechanism:
uncommon: viral infection, otitis media Respiratory system:
uncommon: pharyngitis, upper respiratory tract infection, rhinitis, bronchitis, coughing Skin and appendages:
Common: rash
White cell and reticuloendothelial system:
Uncommon: lymphadenopathy
During post-marketing surveillance, the following reactions have been reported in temporal association with Priorix vaccination: Body as a whole:
very rare: allergic reactions (including anaphylactic reactions) Central and peripheral nervous system:
very rare: meningitis Platelet, bleeding and clotting:
very rare: thrombocytopenia, thrombocytopenic purpura Skin and appendages:
very rare: erythema multiforme
As in natural rubella infection, arthralgia or, in isolated cases, chronic arthritis as
well as myalgia, exanthema and swollen lymph nodes may occur two to four
weeks after administration of live rubella vaccines. The incidence of joint
reactions increases with the age of the vaccinee. Cases of exudative arthritis
are extremely rare. In comparative studies with other measles, mumps and
rubella vaccines, the incidences of
local pain, redness and swelling reported with Priorix were low, while the
incidences of other adverse reactions were similar.
4.9. Overdose
Not applicable.

Parents should be allowed to read this information as a first step to informed choice. On no account should any child be vaccinated having been exposed to chickenpox or other herpes type viruses as was ANNA who died ten days after MMR when the measles component was peaking at the same time as her chickenpox. The health visitor was informed by us that Anna had been exposed and that she had a runny nose but she said that it would be OK to vaccinate! I have yet to find any evidence that the MMR has been tested on children with chickenpox. Trials always stipulate that children must be healthy. Children have previously developed Autism that have had a chickenpox vaccine and MMR vaccine combined; inadvertantly discovered on a Merck trial.

'If the MMR vaccine was developed under the ethos that all humankind are the same and each person part of the herd, then what we have is nothing short of a lottery. A child's odds of survival free of damage when vaccinated are dependant on a good fit to the controlled circumstance of any trials and to the genetic simalarities to the herd of humans under trial.

In reality the level of toxicity and contamination of vaccines may vary depending on how even the mix of the liquid in the fermenting vats. The dregs at the bottom being more potent a brew.

Exposure to natural virus before vaccination is hard to establish; 21 days incubation for chickenpox.

Trials of vaccines in Denmark, Finland and Sweden are not representative of the diversity of global man's genetic makeup.'

From [url]JABS Forum - MMR Vaccine Information Sheet[/url]

So sad...why chance it...

[DLMURL] http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccination-And-Abortion [/DLMURL]-

Children have previously developed Autism that have had a chickenpox vaccine and MMR vaccine combined

One thing about Autism is that it is a developmental condition that only becomes really noticeable at the ‘beginning to speak’ age – which is also the age when vaccinations are given.
I guess the jury will be out on this one for a long time. But I do have something of a problem with Autism being regarded as an illness that can be cured. For example, this quote from the organisation ‘Aspies for Freedom’ - We know that autism is not a disease, and we oppose any attempts to 'cure' someone of an autism spectrum condition, or any attempts to make them 'normal' against their will."
Maybe some members of HP who are further onto the spectrum than I am will feel moved to contribute their views on this.

So sad...why chance it...

Maybe because something like 164,000 children die from measles each year. I do agree there could be a lot more done to make both vaccines safer and to find ways to manage without them – measles is mainly a killer where it is combined with a lack of vitamin A.