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(@lyndac)
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Hi,

I think I've got a problem with yeast. I get terrible stomach problems, bloating etc and also headaches and sinus problems after eating bread. Some breads are worse than others.

My problem is that I LOVE bread!!!! Has anyone got any ideas for alternatives? I currently have pittas and tortillas instead of sandwiches, but I long for a good beans on toast!!

I'd be grateful for any help.

All the best,

Lyndac x

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(@therapy-heaven)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Lyndac

Lakeland have bread mixes that are gluten, yeast, wheat and dairy free. I've only tried the 'grains' one, but it is much, much better than ready made stuff, and half the price. Very easy to make as well. Enjoy!
[link= http://www.lakelandlimited.co.uk/productimage.aspx/cookbake/bread!10437_10436 ]http://www.lakelandlimited.co.uk/productimage.aspx/cookbake/bread!10437_10436[/link]

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(@lyndac)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Thanks for that, Sue. You're a godsend!

Lyndac x

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(@sagimom)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hiya

I was exactly the same..until I tried NORDIC 'DIDA' tablets. Its a herbal remedy that helps beat the tummyyeastand gives relief from all those symptoms.....seriously, it does work! However, I have cut down on breadbut with these tabs....my god it is worth it by far!
The tablets are about £20 from Holland & Barratt. (theyre in a red box)
Best wishes x x

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(@lyndac)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Sagimom,

Thanks for that. Yes, I've seen those Dida tabets before but £20 seemed a bit steep to pay when you donn't know if they'll help. Truct me, I've tried everything.... Digestive Enzymes, Acidophilis.....

If you recommend them, though, I may give them a go. It's terrible, the other day I had a real craving for bread, so I had one thin slice of brown toast. Immediately, I got sinus pain, which turned into a headache. Then later the bloating and trapped wind started and stopped me sleeping. Just from one little thin piece!!!

Thanks again, I'll get some Dida.

Much love,

Lyndac xx

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(@anahata)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Please see your GP (if you haven't already) ASAP as you may have coeliac disease. (The US spleeing is without the 'o').

Recently Posted on this Thread on the subject - [link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=357665 ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=357665[/link]

Inshort there are many constituents in bread that may be aggravating the problem and it's important to rule out coeliacs. That done have a look through the Threads of this Forum or ask. The most common allergy related problems in this situation is wheat, gluten, yeast & flour modifying agents, but there may well be an underlying problem of dysbiosis of the gut.

I also want to add that the antifungal herbal product Dida is available from independant health food shops & produced by NewNordic - [link= http://www.newnordic.com/ ]http://www.newnordic.com/[/link]

It is very good, but there are various other natural antifingal agents and if this is the problem, then it is best to rotate several and only take each for a couple of days. I'm sure I'veprevisouly Posted on this subject at length before, so aHP Forum search on candida, withmy user name as Author sould throw up more stuff.

Andrew.

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(@lyndac)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Anahata,

Thanks for your comments. I have already seen my GP regarding this and got very little help I'm afraid. I have been through rigorous allergy testing and know that it is definitely yeast that is causing my problems. I have eliminated this from my diet but am finding the bread thing very diffiult. Hence, this post.

Many thanks again for your advice.

Much love,

Lyndac x

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 Trow
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

You will find tht bread made using the Chorleywood process uses a higher percentage of yeast than traditionally made breads - and 97% of UK bread is Chorleywood process, including the 'in store' supermarket bread.

This process has been linked to higher percentages of people with wheat/yeast/gluten intolerance.

In case it is of interest - the flour for the process is ground in such a way to break down carbs, unlike the flour on supermakret shelves, which is also a contributing factor in wheat intolerance, so the following advice can also be helpful to people with wheat intolerance.

Less yeast is used in home made bread, so you could try borrowing a bread machine and making your own to see if this helps at all.

If you can't borrow one, you could try making bread at home. This sit has a recipe for 'family bread' immediately followed by 'low yeast bread' which is slowly risen overnight to reduce the amount of yeast - 2 tsps per four loaves - required.

[link= http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/familybread.htm#overnightbread ]http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/familybread.htm#overnightbread[/link]

You could also use more yeast free breads - flat breads and the like, particularly home made versions.

I experience bloating and wind with shop bread, and now I use a breadmaker the majority of the time the symptoms have eased remarkably.

Good luck

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(@anahata)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

I have already seen my GP regarding this and got very little help I'm afraid. I have been through rigorous allergy testing and know that it is definitely yeast that is causing my problems.

Although it's likely that yeast is one of your main problems, in my experience there are likely to be several other underlying allergies/sensitivities.

On the bread front and as a short term measure, then you'll find that some of the lighter German & Scandinavian whole meal rye breadsare less yeasty, as are the Russian unlevend rye breads made by traditional methods.

As a long term solution, then I recommend that you find a local NAET practitioner as this is the sort of problem we see on a regular basis and is usually fairly straight forward. To find a NAET practioner near you check the NAET for Europe practitioner database - [link= http://www.naeteurope.com/gb_default.asp ]http://www.naeteurope.com/gb_default.asp[/link]- any probs, give me a shout.

What sounds like a craving for bread is very likely because of the allergy itself, which usually disappears when the problem is addressed.

Andrew.

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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Andrew,

Many thanks for that. I will take your advice.

Much love,

Lyndac x

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(@spinal-music)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Lyndac
I love sodabread - it's a traditional Irish bread and uses bicarbonate of soda as a raising agent instead of yeast. My dad makes it for me, but you can get it from supermarkets. The basic ingredients are flour, buttermilk, salt. It goes off quite quickly, but you can break it into quarters and freeze them. Yum!
Sharon.

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(@shooting-star)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Lyndac,

If you have a problem with yeast then you will need to get checked to see if you have a candida or an invasive fungus problem. If you do, then avoiding yeast on its own will help manage symptoms but it won't solve the problem. Unfortunately refined carbohydrates such as (flour or sugar), vinegar, other fungus like mushrooms and alcohol all feed the yeast or fungus.

I'm doing an elimination diet to get rid of Aspergillus fumigatus at the moment and the second day was hell as the fungus started to die off. However I am starting to feel better now.

I also second NAET as a good allergy treatment - the healer I see uses it amongst other things she does.

Good luck with your treatment.

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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi Sharon, thanks for that. Yep, soda bread is great. I've grown up on it. However, it's not so good with beans on!

Hi Shooting Star, I'm glad that you have found your culprit! How was that identified? I've had some testing but not been told to that precision. I'm really pleased for you that you are on the mend. Best of luck!

Slainte!

Lyndac x

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(@shooting-star)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Hi I see an alternative practitioner who lives locally to me. She is primarily a kinesiologist - she is trained in 10 different types of kinesiology! She also uses NAET, BRT (Body Restoration Technique) and JMT (Jaffe-Mellor Technique). (I don' t think many people do those in the UK - they are more US things).

It has been hard work finding it! The problem I had is that it wasn't just one issue. I had food allergies, chemical sensitivities, blocked energy pathways between organs, emotional issues, as well as this blinkin fungus which we have just identified.

I had several courses of anti-biotics over the last couple of years and that's when the problems started.

On the plus side she is teaching me what she knows so I am learning so much about healing and the human body and I work on her too!

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RE: yeast infections

hi all , i am new to this but life at the moment is hell!!,,ii have spent hundreds of euros ,with my yeast problem, which i have now for @ 10 yrs, all the doctors do is fob me off with creams,pills etc, but all give temporary relief!!!, i am newly married and trying for a baby but as ye can imagine sex is quiet painful, i feel dirty, get bloated , constipated,etc, , i have tryed every remedy under the sun, i am very depressed over this as it is taking over my life. can anybody give me any information, as i am from southern Ireland., i cant seem to find any info .[:@]

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RE: yeast infections

To the ladies who posted about Dida:
I decided to take the plunge and boughta boxfullast week. I took one per day for two days, and true! the flatulance and jock itch eased quickly. However the mouth became tingly again from all those collective herbs: oregamo, cinnamon, fennell, calendula, mint etc, in these huge tablets. Plus, as soon as the box is opened, this revolting smell issues forth, even though the tabs are sealed in foil. So you can just imagine what they taste like!!

I am leaving it for the moment, not cheap at all.................

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 tj
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RE: yeast infections

Hi,

Just thought I'd add to this very interesting thread!! My sister has really bad migraines, and after much testing, it has been found to be yeast that causes it. One of the tests to see if you had a yeast infection was to spit into a glass of water first thing in the morning - the very first spittle. If it sinks immediately or almost immediately, that is a positive test to yeast infection. With a dietician's help, she has cut out dairy and yeast, to starve the yeast infection. She has stopped the migraines, so once her body is rid of the yeast, she can then slowly introduce it back into her diet. She got a great book from amazon with different recepies that really helped. She had to cut out all kinds of sugary things, and some things with preservatives in them. She found it really difcicult but it worked.

Not sure if that helps anyone!

Tj

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(@newbeing)
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RE: yeast infections

Hi Lyndac

Have you tried rice cakes or crisp breads?

I may be wrong here because I am not from the Jewish faith, but I think some of their breads are baked without yeast. It may something worth investigating.

All the best

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RE: yeast infections

Hi everyone,

Can I just ask whats the best way to find out if you have a yeast infection? testing? (if so where, who, how much?) elimination diet? (if so how do I do it?). I have suffered more than my fair share of thrush in recent years and lately when I go to bed I have terrible itchiness in the groin area, but not where it itches when you have thrush, just around groin area (gross I know!) even though I'm freshly showered and bed sheets are clean!

Any advice?

Cheers guys

Sadie x

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RE: yeast infections

I have to do the candida diet...but it's so hard! I have colitis anyway, then a few months ago I had tonsilitis and I've never been the same since. Knackered, lost weight, pomphylox (hand eczema) and numerous infections. I had thrush (grapefruit seed extract got rid of that) then perleche (which is candida a the corner of your mouth), and now I have candida infected nail fold (base of nail). I'm also breastfeeding.
Problem with the diet is food is my only treat. I don't go out anywhere (too tired), I'm isolated where I live, no social life. Just spend my life looking after my children (which I love doing, just hate the loneliness aspect of it). So the sad thing is a treat for me is a cup of tea! If I can't even have that what is there left for me?
How do I get over giving up my only treat in life? I love my food!

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(@michael-price6)
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RE: yeast infections

hi lyndac, how is your bread problem?.. have you tried aloe vera, a herb which is very useful for digestive complaints, and to support the immune system, you can get it as a juice, or if you prefere in tablet form.

kind regards mike

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(@celticembrase)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

I dont eat any breads etc, I do make cornbread though...yummy:) The larger supermarket chains stock gluten free bread etc. By the way we are all alergic to yeast, although not all will experience the side effects of it. Since I stopped eating gluten / yeast I dont have migraines, have more energy, sleep better etc:)

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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

'The village bakery' which is stocked in Waitrose, some Sainsbury branches and some health food shops sell a 'campagne' which is made from wheat, but is sourdough, and has no added yeast. Toasted, it is delicious (and good with beans on too!) I take it you are having sugar-free beans? If you have a yeast infection you need to avoid all sugars and yeasts, as this is what will feed the organism.

The village bakery also make a russian rye bread called rossisky - it is very dark, bitter and heavy, but if you have a taste for it, it is lovely.

Often, people who are intolerant to wheat can manage to eat proper sourdough bread, so it is worth finding a good source.
There is a bakery in Cardiff too - the name eludes me right now, but they do 'proper' sourdough bread.

Remember, that if you are craving something (like the bread) then it is actually your candida (I'm going to call it candida, because thisis what it sounds like to me) asking to be fed so that it can survive and keep on making you feel lousy. if you think of it like that, it might help you not to give in and to fight the battle.

Good luck!
Amethyst x

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(@amethystcave)
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RE: Yeast - any alternatives

Just remembered the bakeryin cardiff - it's called the 'wild yeast' bakery.

HTH
Amethyst x

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