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Getting back in the zone (quitting tobacco)

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Hi

I gave up smoking at the start of spring as I felt this was the best time to quit with the sun being out which went very well especially due to being in the right place to stop again. Nearly 3 months have passed and things were going very well until I left my patch off for a few days thinking that I was ready to come off them - bad mistake!

The first couple of days were fine and I felt good but what I didn't see coming was the withdrawal symptoms building up and up over those days until I suddenly started trying to convince myself that it would be possible to smoke a roll up and then leave it again - bad mistake lol.

Needless to say I'm back to smoking again and now it feels like the moment has gone and for the 2nd time in 2 years I'm back at the start.

Has anybody ever done what I did and manage to get back into quitting? For me its all about the resolve I had and the mindframe but now its basically gone and it feels impossible to carry on now until my mind and body get fed up again which could be a while.

Somebody said to me the other day that although its a very real physical addiction that there is also a very strong mental addiction there too which for me personally the mental side is what i'm unable to tap into again, i can handle the physical feelings but i can feel that my resolve is not there and the weed devil has regained control again.

Any tips from anyone who has made the same mistake as me but managed to get back to the same place as they were when they first gave up.

Blessings everybody

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Hi

I gave up smoking at the start of spring as I felt this was the best time to quit with the sun being out which went very well especially due to being in the right place to stop again. Nearly 3 months have passed and things were going very well until I left my patch off for a few days thinking that I was ready to come off them - bad mistake!

The first couple of days were fine and I felt good but what I didn't see coming was the withdrawal symptoms building up and up over those days until I suddenly started trying to convince myself that it would be possible to smoke a roll up and then leave it again - bad mistake lol.

Needless to say I'm back to smoking again and now it feels like the moment has gone and for the 2nd time in 2 years I'm back at the start.

Has anybody ever done what I did and manage to get back into quitting? For me its all about the resolve I had and the mindframe but now its basically gone and it feels impossible to carry on now until my mind and body get fed up again which could be a while.

Somebody said to me the other day that although its a very real physical addiction that there is also a very strong mental addiction there too which for me personally the mental side is what i'm unable to tap into again, i can handle the physical feelings but i can feel that my resolve is not there and the weed devil has regained control again.

Any tips from anyone who has made the same mistake as me but managed to get back to the same place as they were when they first gave up.

Blessings everybody

From your other post, I hear you are depressed and from this one, that you need to get back into zone. You are seeking to join two contraries. There cannot be flow when there is low vibration active. Depression is a slow moving energy, heavy and wears you down. Zone is light and light. If you have experienced zone, you will know that it grows and grows.
It is easier to suggest things like get therapy, one thing at a time, go easy on yourself, do this do that...but they usually work - momentarily
From your posts it is becoming clear that you thought you were in the zone (with a little help of the patch.) Now the patch is gone, you have flown striaght out of the zone. You were not even in the zone now knowing that you are actually out of that zone is causing anguish
Change happens with intense desire, not with coersion.
Within intense desire is an openness and trust to embrace your wholeness.
''Mental side I can't seem to stop''. Because you are trying to change from mind. Keep hitting a brick wall.
You need to get help for depression. Smoking is a secondary issue. People usually stop smoking when they find happiness within.

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I'm in the ozone now

Hello Ruby

How can I get in the zone if I don't know what the zone looks like and if a zone really exists what might it look like, maybe the zone is in me or perhaps it just looks like it is when really it isn't and it's just my imagination lol sorry Ruby but it does make me smile with the way you go on one sometimes, not to say that it doesn't make a little sense but I do feel like it's something out of star trek.

On a more serious note with the condition that I have with not really taking my thoughts to seriously and being depressed I have to use what tools are at hand until another way lights up. Now for meni have to build my determination to stop up from the ground by waiting until I've really had enough of feeling pants and my friend 'Will' Powers is ready to join me again. Having the patches to hand is a big help in the battle but it's psychological to feel like I'm ready to do it which seems to be the only way I can work it in my mind. It has been effective because 2months is a way to go but somehow I slipped and that's that. Which is what I mean by being in the right zone for it, just like a rapper who wakes up in the early hours of the morning with a head full of amazing raps that he has to write down quickly before they disappear so the zone is a universal thing that people rely on in different ways and for ms it's the same.

Regarding the acupuncture and money it's nice to get views of others who have been treated for depression because it gives me an insight but on the other I believe in acu more then anything else because I have felt the direct and permanent results unlike being told by a reiki master that this will help only to walk away no better off then before I forked out money which cb always find somewhere more beneficial to go like my living expensives and my children's too so I'm only being cautious.

I spoke to Karen and she said the results were good for her with shaktipat but I don't know for sure whether it will help me and I dont think you could promise menwith all your heart that it would, even though I want to believe you I've heard to much crap from people who claim this and that so I hope you can see my dilemma because I could give you £80 tomorrow and still be in the same boat a week later. In some respects I just don't bother getting my hopes up because that way you've got nothing to lose.

No disrespects Ruby I'm sure your a lovely person and indont want to offend you but at the moment I'm fed up because my life outlook is wack. When I was younger i loved life so much and I thought I was like you in being able to help people but I can't even help myself so how can I do the same for others.

Sorry peeps who stumble across this I don't mean to down your day

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I spoke to Karen and she said the results were good for her with shaktipat but I don't know for sure whether it will help me and I dont think you could promise menwith all your heart that it would,

No disrespects Ruby I'm sure your a lovely person and indont want to offend you but at the moment I'm fed up because my life outlook is wack. When I was younger i loved life so much and I thought I was like you in being able to help people but I can't even help myself so how can I do the same for others.

Sorry peeps who stumble across this I don't mean to down your day

You are not far off the desparation you need to reach before you start coming back up again.
For disrespect, I don't see anything offensive there. I promise it will work for you or indeed for anyone else. I do that - In front of hindreds of witnesses... Now do you trust me? Thats the point I was and am making!
Wish you all the best

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Hello - I was just looking at your user name and was so grateful that you'd picked that - you are indeed a unique son - I would say a unique, precious and beloved son of God!

I know many many people who have found freedom from addictions, depression and every possible mental and physical disease and disability, through the ideas in a book, which explains our eternal and free spiritual selfhood and how to dispel the fog which would try to stop us experiencing it.

Here are just two of many articles by people who have found freedom and true satisfaction. The second one was written by a dear friend of mine, so I know just what he had to overcome, but, like so many others, the addiction just left him. He was so busy learning about who he really was that that he just forgot to drink, smoke, take drugs and all desire to kill himself left him! :p

[url]Love for others helped me quit smoking[/url]

[url]Spirituality loosed me from the grip of addiction[/url]

Love and peace,

Judy

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Evening

Hi Judy thanks for your post, I'll give them a read. Would be nice to believe that there are ways of clearing that fog. Thank you again for your time in writing 🙂

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Re stopping smoking:

Read Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking, this deals with the psychological aspects of smoking.

Failing that, get an e-cig,

Don't give up giving up 🙂

Regards

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